Amen to that. I swore off cable long ago, but friends who have it tell me that if not for the internet they wouldn't have heard of it at all. It's Corporate Censorship at it's worst, and yet the Conservatives persist in saying that the media have a "Liberal Bias". Can you say 'Bullsh*t', boys and girls?!

This news never made it into our media. Which didn't surprise me at all. There seems to be a blanket over reporting this sort of thing since the Seattle WTO riots. I'm just glad there's the internet so I can find out what's happening around the world!

The police brutality towards the peaceful marchers is terrible. Fuckin' police state. When this sort of shit happens in the Mid East, everyone gets angry. When it happens in the USA, it's "oh, those hippies deserve what's comin'." Fucked up.

Um that is a point.... What with 7 billion people on Earth and with most of them living in LEDCs the USA sure can encourage taking out a few of them for shits n giggles. As for the 'easier' of the two well  whales might be big slow moving targets with no knowledge of how automatic weapons work. But then when US forces use an unmanned drone to kill half a dozen people at a wedding in Afganistan then to support that point it could give them at least an hour warning so that they have enough time to call their comrades and attempt to mount an attack on the base that is seeking their death. Don't forget whales can go underwater which people can't do and Iceland has no submarines!

Mardy Pune said:

I honestly can't see how shooting people and hunting whales are comparable. One on hand a person can pick up a weapon to defend themselves if they want too, and on the other hand, a whale is a big slow moving target with no way of defending themselves against the faster more brutal weapons that man uses.

 

As far as the argument goes that the whale hunt is sustainable, well... The boats that are used to hunt the whales in a sustainable way are powered by diesel. Is the use of fossil fuels sustainable? No. Therefore the whale hunt is not sustainable.

I honestly can't see how shooting people and hunting whales are comparable. One on hand a person can pick up a weapon to defend themselves if they want too, and on the other hand, a whale is a big slow moving target with no way of defending themselves against the faster more brutal weapons that man uses.

As far as the argument goes that the whale hunt is sustainable, well... The boats that are used to hunt the whales in a sustainable way are powered by diesel. Is the use of fossil fuels sustainable? No. Therefore the whale hunt is not sustainable.

1. Russel Winter Porter... available only on tap. Black Frog in Gastown is a decent joint.

2. Blood Alley Bitter...the Hastings St. Liquor Lounge has it in the fridge. Ah yum.

3. Black Window... from the Tin Whistle Brewery Co. in Penticton BC...a nice brown ale!

4. my dirty old faithful from Ontario...Labatt 50.  Coldest Ale in the fridge because no one else besides your dad and I will drink it.

C.C. if it was good enough for Prohibition and a few Mad Men.

You need to try Zawa...from Trinidad.  I was once a Havana man and now I see the light.

The only thing I ever appreciated from Jules Feifer was HIS book THE COMIC BOOK BOOK, which I got when I was 10, mostly for the old reprints he put in the second half of the book, I actuallystarted reading the commentary he wrote the following year when I could better understand it (I have asberger's and was reading at college level, but only stuff that appealed to me).  But he seemed to agree too much with Dr. Wertham and HIS book, which I never read either but it's all ridiculous.  I guess we should be thankful that he didn't cast Bruce Wayne as a closet pedophile.  It's funny that the book started as a tangent against Horror comics of the era (EC and all its competitors).  As stupid as THAT was, at least a crusade against horror comics wouldn't tarnish the reputation of do-gooders with stupid theories of who was gay and who was a facist and whatever else Dr. Wertham thought he recognized in child hood favorites.

Rockin' Rod , I agree. How was Batman going to "Make" Robin Gay anymore than Wonder Woman was going to "Make" young women Lesbians ? We ARE dealing with Jules Feiffer , a cartoonist , himself , who probably made that comment in an attempt to be funny. I don't know. I do know The FRIEDMAN Bros. threw Feiffer's ass on the rails in their comic strip adaptation of his life and career !

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

You're questions about She Hulk lead me to a Google search and someone actually wrote a book about the entire Bill Bixby experience. You Wouldn’t Like Me When I’m Angry: A HULK Companion by Pat Jankiewicz talks about the unfinished pilot and says a sports figure was going to play her.  But other than that, Google didn't have any other answers.  But what I remember reading way back when on why the comic was created in 1980 was that this TV pilot was going to be done and the comic was a tie-in but of course the pilot was never completed.  I guess we're all gonna have to buy this book.  It's like 500 pages.
joey fuckup said:

So was "She Hulk" a completed project? Or a shelved unsold pilot? I thought I read somewhere a long time ago, that Bill Bixby was interested in bringing the Hulk back somehow, and maybe the "She Hulk" telefilm would allow that to happen. I want to say that all this was being discussed/planned but then he died, so the possibility of bringing the Hulk back to television was dropped. I may have mentioned this earlier on this thread, but it's been rumored that a Hulk TV series is on the drawing board with the director of the "Hellboy" films at the helm. (Shit, I just forgot his name.) But this would not have anything to do with the Hulk films at all (???).

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Actually, those Hulk team-up movies were on NBC, who didn't care if things got a little goofy.  As for the "Bruce" thing, I remember that too.  Stan Lee didn't get it but that Bruce thing actually goes back to the 50s when some pyschologist wrote this book called SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT  on how comic books were corrupting the youth of America and tried proving that Bruce Wayne was a closet homosexual and was just biding his time until Dick Grayson came of age before he could tell Dick how he "really" felt about him.  This was apperently because during most of the 40s and all through the 50s, he had no romantic interest in the comics.

 

The She Hulk WAS created for live-action and so a comic was done as a tie in.  Had no idea that Bridgett Neilson was going to be involved.

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

It seems unfair to target Robin as a closet homosexual in his book just on the fact that when it was written, Dick Grayson was portrayed as a 12 year old boy.  He wasn't even 16 until the mid 60s (thanks to comic book time).  I remember reading in Jules Feifer's THE COMIC BOOK BOOK that Wonder Woman was indeed a lesbian and was going to turn young girls into such as well.

John Battles said:

Rockin' Rod ,

Yeah , elsewheres , I mentioned the band , Seduction of The Innocent , made up of comics industry people (Inc. Bill Mumy.) , and that they got their name from the book , which , I wish they'd reissue. Dan Clowes first told me about it , how it says Batman and Robin are closet Gays , while Superman (Whose creators , of course , were Jewish.) was the Nietzchean(sic) embodiment of the "Perfect man " , in other words , Hitler's poster boy , even though ALL the capes and tights set fought for The Allies during the war. The book also suggests that Rock'n'Roll will lead to race - mixing (Horrors!) , and young men being "Turned into" Homosexuals. Clowes did a great comic , using direct quotes from the book. I was supposed to get a transcription of "Seduction"in full , but have'nt got one , yet.  I guess it's buried in legal red tape , or Fantagraphics , or someone , would've made it available to those of us who like a good laugh.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Actually, those Hulk team-up movies were on NBC, who didn't care if things got a little goofy.  As for the "Bruce" thing, I remember that too.  Stan Lee didn't get it but that Bruce thing actually goes back to the 50s when some pyschologist wrote this book called SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT  on how comic books were corrupting the youth of America and tried proving that Bruce Wayne was a closet homosexual and was just biding his time until Dick Grayson came of age before he could tell Dick how he "really" felt about him.  This was apperently because during most of the 40s and all through the 50s, he had no romantic interest in the comics.

 

The She Hulk WAS created for live-action and so a comic was done as a tie in.  Had no idea that Bridgett Neilson was going to be involved.

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

You're questions about She Hulk lead me to a Google search and someone actually wrote a book about the entire Bill Bixby experience. You Wouldn’t Like Me When I’m Angry: A HULK Companion by Pat Jankiewicz talks about the unfinished pilot and says a sports figure was going to play her.  But other than that, Google didn't have any other answers.  But what I remember reading way back when on why the comic was created in 1980 was that this TV pilot was going to be done and the comic was a tie-in but of course the pilot was never completed.  I guess we're all gonna have to buy this book.  It's like 500 pages.
joey fuckup said:

So was "She Hulk" a completed project? Or a shelved unsold pilot? I thought I read somewhere a long time ago, that Bill Bixby was interested in bringing the Hulk back somehow, and maybe the "She Hulk" telefilm would allow that to happen. I want to say that all this was being discussed/planned but then he died, so the possibility of bringing the Hulk back to television was dropped. I may have mentioned this earlier on this thread, but it's been rumored that a Hulk TV series is on the drawing board with the director of the "Hellboy" films at the helm. (Shit, I just forgot his name.) But this would not have anything to do with the Hulk films at all (???).

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Actually, those Hulk team-up movies were on NBC, who didn't care if things got a little goofy.  As for the "Bruce" thing, I remember that too.  Stan Lee didn't get it but that Bruce thing actually goes back to the 50s when some pyschologist wrote this book called SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT  on how comic books were corrupting the youth of America and tried proving that Bruce Wayne was a closet homosexual and was just biding his time until Dick Grayson came of age before he could tell Dick how he "really" felt about him.  This was apperently because during most of the 40s and all through the 50s, he had no romantic interest in the comics.

 

The She Hulk WAS created for live-action and so a comic was done as a tie in.  Had no idea that Bridgett Neilson was going to be involved.

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

Rockin' Rod ,

Yeah , elsewheres , I mentioned the band , Seduction of The Innocent , made up of comics industry people (Inc. Bill Mumy.) , and that they got their name from the book , which , I wish they'd reissue. Dan Clowes first told me about it , how it says Batman and Robin are closet Gays , while Superman (Whose creators , of course , were Jewish.) was the Nietzchean(sic) embodiment of the "Perfect man " , in other words , Hitler's poster boy , even though ALL the capes and tights set fought for The Allies during the war. The book also suggests that Rock'n'Roll will lead to race - mixing (Horrors!) , and young men being "Turned into" Homosexuals. Clowes did a great comic , using direct quotes from the book. I was supposed to get a transcription of "Seduction"in full , but have'nt got one , yet.  I guess it's buried in legal red tape , or Fantagraphics , or someone , would've made it available to those of us who like a good laugh.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Actually, those Hulk team-up movies were on NBC, who didn't care if things got a little goofy.  As for the "Bruce" thing, I remember that too.  Stan Lee didn't get it but that Bruce thing actually goes back to the 50s when some pyschologist wrote this book called SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT  on how comic books were corrupting the youth of America and tried proving that Bruce Wayne was a closet homosexual and was just biding his time until Dick Grayson came of age before he could tell Dick how he "really" felt about him.  This was apperently because during most of the 40s and all through the 50s, he had no romantic interest in the comics.

 

The She Hulk WAS created for live-action and so a comic was done as a tie in.  Had no idea that Bridgett Neilson was going to be involved.

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

So was "She Hulk" a completed project? Or a shelved unsold pilot? I thought I read somewhere a long time ago, that Bill Bixby was interested in bringing the Hulk back somehow, and maybe the "She Hulk" telefilm would allow that to happen. I want to say that all this was being discussed/planned but then he died, so the possibility of bringing the Hulk back to television was dropped. I may have mentioned this earlier on this thread, but it's been rumored that a Hulk TV series is on the drawing board with the director of the "Hellboy" films at the helm. (Shit, I just forgot his name.) But this would not have anything to do with the Hulk films at all (???).

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Actually, those Hulk team-up movies were on NBC, who didn't care if things got a little goofy.  As for the "Bruce" thing, I remember that too.  Stan Lee didn't get it but that Bruce thing actually goes back to the 50s when some pyschologist wrote this book called SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT  on how comic books were corrupting the youth of America and tried proving that Bruce Wayne was a closet homosexual and was just biding his time until Dick Grayson came of age before he could tell Dick how he "really" felt about him.  This was apperently because during most of the 40s and all through the 50s, he had no romantic interest in the comics.

 

The She Hulk WAS created for live-action and so a comic was done as a tie in.  Had no idea that Bridgett Neilson was going to be involved.

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

Spiderman transported into Concan's world would be great as a back-visit. "THE SPIDER-GOD in the land of the savage!"

Just imagine...

John Battles said:

Aldyth , Actually , I think it's pretty cool that you did remember that.

Aldyth Beltane said:

Oddly, Conan *did* appear in the Spider-Man title Marvel Team-Up, in which Conan was somehow magically transported to modern New York.  MTU had some of the most improbably crossovers imaginable.

(I am oddly disturbed that I recall this particular bit of trivia.)

joey fuckup said:

With Spiderman being the THE flagship character for Marvel, I think the only comic book series he didn't appear in was "Conan the Barbarian". He crossed paths with everybody, and I think back in the '70's (for the most part), Spiderman had 5 different titled series. I read a rumor some time back that a fourth Spiderman movie would involve Morbius, and Blade would appear in it as well. Apparently Marvel was interested in breathing life back into the Blade franchise. There was even an industry insider joke that Wesley Snipes would portray him again because he needed the money. (Referring to his tax evasion troubles). Snipes has said that he has no desire to play Blade again, citing his displeasure with filming "Blade: Trinity". I do know that at one time, he was being considered to play Black Panther for the big screen.

yeah, I can totally root for that!! ;)

I'm waiting for someone to make make Superhero movies in that fashion. Someone should make a comic off a Shaky Kane book.

John Battles said:

IDON MINE , You are so right ! I just love seeing what people can do when straddled with a virtually nonexistent budget . They had to use their imaginations ! And that , my friends , is what comic books are all about. Suspension of disbelief.

IDON MINE said:

Rip off super Hero movies are the best!

I love that Mexican Bat Girl flic you metioned, well worth the watching ...and watching again.

 

John Battles said:

 It depends. I like the old serials of the 30's and 40's - Batman (Hilarious) , Spy Smasher , Captain Marvel , Flash Gordon , etc. I still like the '66 Batman movie. There's a seldom - seen R- Rated 70's sex comedy , "Hot Times" , featuring Archie and his gang (Without permisson , of course.)....I used  to see it on primitive cable. Wish I'd bought it when I had the chance. The early 90's Captain America and Fantastic Four movies are a riot...

Actually, those Hulk team-up movies were on NBC, who didn't care if things got a little goofy.  As for the "Bruce" thing, I remember that too.  Stan Lee didn't get it but that Bruce thing actually goes back to the 50s when some pyschologist wrote this book called SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT  on how comic books were corrupting the youth of America and tried proving that Bruce Wayne was a closet homosexual and was just biding his time until Dick Grayson came of age before he could tell Dick how he "really" felt about him.  This was apperently because during most of the 40s and all through the 50s, he had no romantic interest in the comics.

The She Hulk WAS created for live-action and so a comic was done as a tie in.  Had no idea that Bridgett Neilson was going to be involved.

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

Joey , It's true , I remember reading the network deep - sixed the name "Bruce Banner" (Tho' I think "Bruce" was his seldom - mentioned middle name ) because it was a popular stereotype at that time that a lot of Gay men were named "Bruce" or "Brucie" , and they did'nt like giving off that sort of vibe. I'm not saying they made the right move. It's like , in reality , if you went to a Butler's Convention, how many do you think you'd meet named "Jeeves"? ONE ?!!! In Mad magazine's "Hulk" parody , Bill Bixby , in cartoon form , explains that he was really called "Bruce" , but they changed it to "David" , because Bruce did'nt sound very masculine. Then , you see a TV set , announcing "JENNER WINS THE DECATHALON ! BRUCE IS THE WORLD'S GREATEST ATHLETE !!!" . Then , Adam West sent a letter to The Editor , in real life , saying that CBS should have called Bruce Banner by his "Real" name , as his own character , Bruce Wayne , was a real "Swinger" with the ladies (Tho' his damn fool ass kept saying "No" to Julie Newmar!).

joey fuckup said:

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

Don't get me wrong, I liked the Spiderman episodes on "The Electric Company", it's just they were too short, so I always felt robbed! It's why I liked the CBS series better. And yes, Rod, I remember seeing the tag line on Spiderman and Hulk comics promoting them as "TV sensations". Speaking of CBS and their ridiculous "realism" angle, Stan Lee also said in an interview that they were forced to change Banner's first name to David because CBS executives felt that the name "Bruce" was too "homosexual" (???)! I think it was a clever writing ploy in Ang Lee's "Hulk" film that Bruce Banner's father was named David as an homage to the TV series. However, having him turn into the Absorbing Man was a surprise. To me though, the Hulk series did seem more grounded in reality, and was better written (in my opinion). And I'd have to assume the programming guard at CBS changed somewhat and the "realism" concept was thrown out the window when they greenlit "The Incredible Hulk Returns" TV movie with Thor. I remember reading an article on that coming out, and Stan Lee was saying that this project would springboard Thor into his own series (or at least he was hoping it would). Obviously, the reaction wasn't favorable, and that idea was flushed. The next Hulk TV movie "The Trial Of the Incredible Hulk" brought Daredevil and the Kingpin into CBS' "real" superhero world. I believe Stan Lee was yet trying again to bring another Marvel character onto primetime television, but alas, that never happened neither. It's pretty much known that Stan Lee, more or less, was using these Hulk "reunion" telefilms as "pilots" for these characters, but television executives weren't exactly blown away by the characterizations. Of course, the Hulk was killed off in "The Death Of the Incredible Hulk" when Banner was finally able to free himself from his alter-ego. It is known (or rumored) that Bill Bixby and Marvel were planning on doing a "She Hulk" TV movie as a possible pilot for a series, and the then hot on the spot actress Bridgett Nielson would portray her. I've seen a production still of her (or not) as She Hulk, but I can't say 100% sure if it's an authentic photo, or if even this really was a planned venture. The latest rumor I heard was that Marvel was considering a big screen "She Hulk" film spun off the Edward Norton/Hulk film and Megan Fox was being considered for the role.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

As dumb as "Spidey Super Stories" was, I actually got a kick out of that but that started when I was 6 and at least the bad guy in the story would have a costume.   That's hilarious about the "realism" comment.  During 1977 through 1979, all the Spider-Man and Hulk comics would have on the cover "Marvel's TV Sensation!"  But while the heroes in the comics were fighting characters like the White Dragon and the Abomination,  The TV characters were fighting the Mob, Bank Robbers and Mad Scientists (Spider-Man), or Cattle Rustlers and conspiritors (the Hulk).  My favorite comic story while the TV show was running was where Spider-Man met a new character that Curt Connors accidently creates called the Iguana.  Can you imagine THAT on the 1977 TV show?

 

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Adaptation

A Simple Plan

Behind Locked Doors

Black Sabbath

Black Sunday (Italy, Mario Bava)

Carnival of Souls (1962)

Crossfire

Donnie Darko

You Only Live Once

The Big Heat

The Big Combo

Daughters of Darkness

Dead of Night

Double Indemnity

Shanghai Gesture

The Girl Hunters

Haxan: Witchcraft through the ages

Horror Hotel aka City of the Dead

In a Lonely Place

Incubus (1965)

The Long Night

Murder, My Sweet

Out of the past

The City Never Sleeps

Nightmare Alley

Double Indemnity

Shock Corridor

Seconds

Suture

Last Year at Marienbad

The Long Night

Night Tide

Peeping Tom

Princess Mononoke

Spider Baby

Vampyres

Faust (Murnau)

The Golem (1923)

Fall of the House of Usher (France 1928)

WOW! You're like "The World's Fastest Movie Watcher"! ;)

Glad you liked it

What Alex said. Most of the times it's hit and miss for me. I haven't done it in years. Anyone of you use LinkedIn?

+ that is also a nono: ("took my artwork and never paid, website didn't do anything about it")...