I think you'd kind of like the Edward Norton verison, but it is a bit of a cop out that it isn't a true sequel.  I actually saw that first and I like the guy they chose for General Ross in that one (though Sam Elliott does a fine job in the first).

joey fuckup said:

I am probably the only person I know that liked that first "Hulk" film that Ang Lee did. I guess I just dug it as a "comic lovers art film"? I really liked the way the origin was tweaked, and that "David" Banner (from the TV series) was the father, and "Bruce" was the son. I thought it was also interesting how David became the Absorbing Man and they fought to the death at the end. Sam Elliott was perfect as Gen. Ross and I loved the face off in the desert. I haven't seen the revamped Hulk movie with Ed Norton, but I know it's part of the "Marvel Mosaic" as I like to call it, and that Marvel likes to act like the Ang Lee version never existed. And saying that the newer film isn't a sequel is a cop-out in my opinion. Obviously it is, they just wanted to distance the films and sweep the first one under the rug...I plan on watching "The Incredible Hulk" one day, when I'm bored I guess...
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I use to get a magazine during the early 90s called Comic Scene that had a portion of it refered to as Comic Screen which tried to hype all the movies (live or animated) that were being planned but you could tell these movies were only one or two steps above 70s TV movies.  Even the Eric Bana Hulk movie was 100 times better than what would have come out if they hadn't been shelved.

I'm starting to remember the Nick Fury movie now that you mention David Hasselhoff.  Sounds like it was based on looks alone and nothing else.

joey fuckup said:

That "Nick Fury" movie was a friggin' joke, Rod...David Hasslehoff played him, and complete with eye patch and cigar, he put on his worst performance of his career! Know way in hell would you be convinced that you're watching Nick Fury, but Michael Knight playing dress-up and acting REALLY badly...It was a TV movie, but I can't remember what network it premiered on. I attempted to watch it on the Sci-Fi Channel but I just couldn't get through it...A VERY lousy piece of shit...

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Was there a Nick Fury movie?  I never heard of that.  Yeah, Dr. Strange was terrible.

 

The Spirit move was corny but it was closer in "spirit" (sorry) to the comics than the recent big screen picture.

joey fuckup said:

Oh ok, so there was a completed "Spirit" film? Didn't realize it was a TV movie, but come to think of it, TV Guide was where I remembered reading the article now. Figures it was corny, probably as bad as the "Dr. Strange" and "Nick Fury" TV movies from back in the day!
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Being on a budget during the 80s, I didn't buy Watchmen comics so I didn't see that movie.  I also skipped out on the Spirit as it looked too much like Frank Miller wanted it to be the same visual style he had for Sin City.  I preferred Will Eisner's comic.  There was a very corny 90's TV movie for the Spirit and watched that.  Kind of fun but still not as funny as Will Eisner's comic.

If "Ghost Rider" was to be reworked/revamped, I think it would be interesting to see it apart from the Marvel films, and set it during the comic's initial run, the '70's. Those comics had such a drive-in movie feel with its share of bikers, demons, and paranormal villains, that to do it as a horror/biker flick would give it a whole different attitude. I do know that David Goyer (Blade films) had initially been on board to do "Ghost Rider" and had planned to make it a very dark film in the horror genre, even thinking in terms of an "R" rating. However, Marvel wasn't too keen on that idea, especially when they knew that more tickets could be sold if they went for a "PG-13" rating. Nicholas Cage was also for a more "kid-friendly" version, saying that making the film too dark was the wrong direction (WTF?). Interesting that the guy that directed "Daredevil" did "Ghost Rider", but I think Marvel leaned heavily on him to make it more palatable so it would gross more bucks. Ya gotta sell those toys!

I am probably the only person I know that liked that first "Hulk" film that Ang Lee did. I guess I just dug it as a "comic lovers art film"? I really liked the way the origin was tweaked, and that "David" Banner (from the TV series) was the father, and "Bruce" was the son. I thought it was also interesting how David became the Absorbing Man and they fought to the death at the end. Sam Elliott was perfect as Gen. Ross and I loved the face off in the desert. I haven't seen the revamped Hulk movie with Ed Norton, but I know it's part of the "Marvel Mosaic" as I like to call it, and that Marvel likes to act like the Ang Lee version never existed. And saying that the newer film isn't a sequel is a cop-out in my opinion. Obviously it is, they just wanted to distance the films and sweep the first one under the rug...I plan on watching "The Incredible Hulk" one day, when I'm bored I guess...
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I use to get a magazine during the early 90s called Comic Scene that had a portion of it refered to as Comic Screen which tried to hype all the movies (live or animated) that were being planned but you could tell these movies were only one or two steps above 70s TV movies.  Even the Eric Bana Hulk movie was 100 times better than what would have come out if they hadn't been shelved.

That "Nick Fury" movie was a friggin' joke, Rod...David Hasslehoff played him, and complete with eye patch and cigar, he put on his worst performance of his career! Know way in hell would you be convinced that you're watching Nick Fury, but Michael Knight playing dress-up and acting REALLY badly...It was a TV movie, but I can't remember what network it premiered on. I attempted to watch it on the Sci-Fi Channel but I just couldn't get through it...A VERY lousy piece of shit...

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Was there a Nick Fury movie?  I never heard of that.  Yeah, Dr. Strange was terrible.

 

The Spirit move was corny but it was closer in "spirit" (sorry) to the comics than the recent big screen picture.

joey fuckup said:

Oh ok, so there was a completed "Spirit" film? Didn't realize it was a TV movie, but come to think of it, TV Guide was where I remembered reading the article now. Figures it was corny, probably as bad as the "Dr. Strange" and "Nick Fury" TV movies from back in the day!
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Being on a budget during the 80s, I didn't buy Watchmen comics so I didn't see that movie.  I also skipped out on the Spirit as it looked too much like Frank Miller wanted it to be the same visual style he had for Sin City.  I preferred Will Eisner's comic.  There was a very corny 90's TV movie for the Spirit and watched that.  Kind of fun but still not as funny as Will Eisner's comic.

Ugh, "Dick Tracy", another lead fart...I heard there was a warehouse out in L.A. somewhere that still had crates of unbought/unwanted merchandise...

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

That Sam Jones movie, that's what I was referring too.  I just forgot who starred in it.  Yes, it was completed and it showed up on television but only after Batman and Dick Tracy (another pretty bad one) had shown in theaters.

joey fuckup said:

I loved the Iron Man films, especially being that I was a huge fan of the comics. When I first heard that Robert Downey, Jr. was playing Tony Stark, my  first reaction was "No fucking way, it won't work"...Then I saw the first trailer, and I was really impressed, because Downey Jr WAS Tony Stark. I really liked how they keep throwing little nods to other Marvel characters in these films, which as you may or may not know, is building up to an Avengers movie. Marvel seems to be "rebuilding" their film franchise with each film starting with the first Iron Man, continuing with "The Incredible Hulk", "Iron Man 2", "Thor", and will continue with "Captain America" (You guys know this already, I'm sure).

I loved "The Spirit" comics when I was a kid! I had a few that were reprints from Kitchen Sink Press. But I just couldn't get into the movie. I would NEVER have done the film like that. I understand that Frank Miller wanted it to feel like it was part of the "Sin City" world, but it just didn't work for me. Bad dialogue, bad acting, and sorry if some of you liked it, but I just wish someone else would redo it. I think there was a half-assed attempt to do a Spirit film back in the late '80's with Sam Jones (the guy that played "Flash Gordon") playing him. I even saw a publicity shot of him in the mask, but I haven't the slightest idea if it was ever finished. It could be like that mysterious Fantastic Four movie that came out in the early '90's that Roger Corman was involved in.

DammitDave said:

I know most costumed crimefighter comic book fans fall firmly into one of two camps, Marvel (mostly) or DC, but when I was reading comics as a kid (late 60's - mid 70's), I read some of both.  Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Spidey, FF, Iron Man and Capt America were most commonly sought out.  Batman ruled hands down.  I got back into comics in the mid 80's via some friends who hipped me to The Dark Knight Returns and The Watchmen and worked in a comic shop for almost 10 years.  I became very burnt out on superheroes in general and especially hated Spawn and X-Men. 

 

Most CB movies that I have seen starting with the Burton Batman pretty much blow with a few exceptions.  I liked the newest Superman, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, and, shocker, X-Men (the first one, I haven't seen any of the others).  V For Vendetta and The Watchmen were...ok but I hear Alan Moore Alan Smithee'd them (all the way to the bank, I hope).  I saw the first Spiderman - meh, ok.   I haven't seen the new Iron Mans but hear they're good to pretty good and may check them out eventually but figure there's no rush.  The Spirit, aach, I may have been the only person who knew the comic.  I thought that had potential but blew it on being overly stylized (though thought it worked for Sin City) and a bit too campy.  GL, I don't know.  It may very well stink on ice and again, I'm not going to run out to see it.

 

It doesn’t really bother me when they tweak the origin or modernize the stories as long as they keep a similar feel.  They did that in the comics for years anyway.  In general, I think if they do what Marvel did in the comics in the 60's, keep a strong dose of humanity in the stories, the movies turn out much better than just making glitzy fantasy action movies. 

I use to get a magazine during the early 90s called Comic Scene that had a portion of it refered to as Comic Screen which tried to hype all the movies (live or animated) that were being planned but you could tell these movies were only one or two steps above 70s TV movies.  Even the Eric Bana Hulk movie was 100 times better than what would have come out if they hadn't been shelved.

Was there a Nick Fury movie?  I never heard of that.  Yeah, Dr. Strange was terrible.

The Spirit move was corny but it was closer in "spirit" (sorry) to the comics than the recent big screen picture.

joey fuckup said:

Oh ok, so there was a completed "Spirit" film? Didn't realize it was a TV movie, but come to think of it, TV Guide was where I remembered reading the article now. Figures it was corny, probably as bad as the "Dr. Strange" and "Nick Fury" TV movies from back in the day!
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Being on a budget during the 80s, I didn't buy Watchmen comics so I didn't see that movie.  I also skipped out on the Spirit as it looked too much like Frank Miller wanted it to be the same visual style he had for Sin City.  I preferred Will Eisner's comic.  There was a very corny 90's TV movie for the Spirit and watched that.  Kind of fun but still not as funny as Will Eisner's comic.

I guess I liked the Ghost Rider movie over all, just not the choice of lead.  Peter Fonda was pretty great. 

As for Daredevil again,  assassins for hire should have a dark streak but they shouldn't be total nut jobs or as arrogant as Ferrel played it.  Bosses portrayed as such is one thing.  Bullseye is an assassin and was always very cooool headed when doing a job (that is, until he was on the losing end).  Elektra:I guess she was very exspensive to pay but Angelina Jolie would have been excellent.  She looks just like her and has that same cold attitude and facial expression that the comic book character had, and she probably would have wanted the real costume, not just tights like Garner wore.

joey fuckup said:

I wasn't too thrilled when I heard the news that N. Cage was going to play Ghost Rider myself. But I have to admit, I did like the movie, but yes, it would have been much better with someone else (and I'm still not sure who I would have picked for it). It was cool to see Peter Fonda in it, but if you read Ghost Rider comics from the '70's, Mephisto was never in human form like that. I was amazed at the effects, though. But one thing you can bet on, Ron, is that if they do sequel, Cage won't do it, since he's said before that it would be highly unlikely that he would reprise the role (even though he's this huge fan of the character). If Marvel pushed for another Ghost Rider film, chances are they would either retell the story, or just go with the '90's treatment of the character with the other alter-ego.

I loved "Daredevil", and agree with you on Ben Affleck. At first, I thought it would suck, but damn, it was such a brutal film! I loved that made him more of a ferocious, driven character as opposed to the earlier comics of a justice enforcer. I actually liked the casting of Bullseye, but really questioned that on Kingpin. And yes, I would have liked Elektra to have been more like the comics version, but since I really liked the movie, I overlooked a lot of that shit. But I just didn't like the "Elektra" movie at all. To me it was "Alias" meets "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon". And as far as a sequel, Marvel has pretty much said it won't happen, at least not in the forseeable future, especially since Ben Affleck has said he has no interest in reprising the role (even though he's a big Daredevil fan). All of this sucks, because the potential to have done a second film would have been great, given the character's rich history.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I like most of the new movies I've seen this past decade (I would have liked Ghost Rider as well if they had had some one besides Nicholas Cage as the character).  In many ways they aren't as fun as the stuff from the 40's - 80's but they seem much truer to the comics than they ever have before, and the effects and stunts are much better executed now than they ever could have been done in the past.  It makes you wish that comic book movies could have waited until the technology was perfected instead of hurrying to make it onto the big or small screen, but then again, it's the corniness of the past that makes those older movies fun.

 

I do want to say something about Daredevil.  I personally think Ben Affleck was an excellent choice for the role but Jennifer Garner as Elektra made no sense and neither did Colin Ferrel as Bullseye.  It was uneven especially towards the end and maybe I'm wrong, but an extra half hour could have helped.  You just felt that the writers' hearts weren't into the project and it was doomed not to have a sequel.  Thor and Iron Man were much better done.

That Sam Jones movie, that's what I was referring too.  I just forgot who starred in it.  Yes, it was completed and it showed up on television but only after Batman and Dick Tracy (another pretty bad one) had shown in theaters.

joey fuckup said:

I loved the Iron Man films, especially being that I was a huge fan of the comics. When I first heard that Robert Downey, Jr. was playing Tony Stark, my  first reaction was "No fucking way, it won't work"...Then I saw the first trailer, and I was really impressed, because Downey Jr WAS Tony Stark. I really liked how they keep throwing little nods to other Marvel characters in these films, which as you may or may not know, is building up to an Avengers movie. Marvel seems to be "rebuilding" their film franchise with each film starting with the first Iron Man, continuing with "The Incredible Hulk", "Iron Man 2", "Thor", and will continue with "Captain America" (You guys know this already, I'm sure).

I loved "The Spirit" comics when I was a kid! I had a few that were reprints from Kitchen Sink Press. But I just couldn't get into the movie. I would NEVER have done the film like that. I understand that Frank Miller wanted it to feel like it was part of the "Sin City" world, but it just didn't work for me. Bad dialogue, bad acting, and sorry if some of you liked it, but I just wish someone else would redo it. I think there was a half-assed attempt to do a Spirit film back in the late '80's with Sam Jones (the guy that played "Flash Gordon") playing him. I even saw a publicity shot of him in the mask, but I haven't the slightest idea if it was ever finished. It could be like that mysterious Fantastic Four movie that came out in the early '90's that Roger Corman was involved in.

DammitDave said:

I know most costumed crimefighter comic book fans fall firmly into one of two camps, Marvel (mostly) or DC, but when I was reading comics as a kid (late 60's - mid 70's), I read some of both.  Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Spidey, FF, Iron Man and Capt America were most commonly sought out.  Batman ruled hands down.  I got back into comics in the mid 80's via some friends who hipped me to The Dark Knight Returns and The Watchmen and worked in a comic shop for almost 10 years.  I became very burnt out on superheroes in general and especially hated Spawn and X-Men. 

 

Most CB movies that I have seen starting with the Burton Batman pretty much blow with a few exceptions.  I liked the newest Superman, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, and, shocker, X-Men (the first one, I haven't seen any of the others).  V For Vendetta and The Watchmen were...ok but I hear Alan Moore Alan Smithee'd them (all the way to the bank, I hope).  I saw the first Spiderman - meh, ok.   I haven't seen the new Iron Mans but hear they're good to pretty good and may check them out eventually but figure there's no rush.  The Spirit, aach, I may have been the only person who knew the comic.  I thought that had potential but blew it on being overly stylized (though thought it worked for Sin City) and a bit too campy.  GL, I don't know.  It may very well stink on ice and again, I'm not going to run out to see it.

 

It doesn’t really bother me when they tweak the origin or modernize the stories as long as they keep a similar feel.  They did that in the comics for years anyway.  In general, I think if they do what Marvel did in the comics in the 60's, keep a strong dose of humanity in the stories, the movies turn out much better than just making glitzy fantasy action movies. 

Oh ok, so there was a completed "Spirit" film? Didn't realize it was a TV movie, but come to think of it, TV Guide was where I remembered reading the article now. Figures it was corny, probably as bad as the "Dr. Strange" and "Nick Fury" TV movies from back in the day!
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Being on a budget during the 80s, I didn't buy Watchmen comics so I didn't see that movie.  I also skipped out on the Spirit as it looked too much like Frank Miller wanted it to be the same visual style he had for Sin City.  I preferred Will Eisner's comic.  There was a very corny 90's TV movie for the Spirit and watched that.  Kind of fun but still not as funny as Will Eisner's comic.

I wasn't too thrilled when I heard the news that N. Cage was going to play Ghost Rider myself. But I have to admit, I did like the movie, but yes, it would have been much better with someone else (and I'm still not sure who I would have picked for it). It was cool to see Peter Fonda in it, but if you read Ghost Rider comics from the '70's, Mephisto was never in human form like that. I was amazed at the effects, though. But one thing you can bet on, Ron, is that if they do sequel, Cage won't do it, since he's said before that it would be highly unlikely that he would reprise the role (even though he's this huge fan of the character). If Marvel pushed for another Ghost Rider film, chances are they would either retell the story, or just go with the '90's treatment of the character with the other alter-ego.

I loved "Daredevil", and agree with you on Ben Affleck. At first, I thought it would suck, but damn, it was such a brutal film! I loved that made him more of a ferocious, driven character as opposed to the earlier comics of a justice enforcer. I actually liked the casting of Bullseye, but really questioned that on Kingpin. And yes, I would have liked Elektra to have been more like the comics version, but since I really liked the movie, I overlooked a lot of that shit. But I just didn't like the "Elektra" movie at all. To me it was "Alias" meets "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon". And as far as a sequel, Marvel has pretty much said it won't happen, at least not in the forseeable future, especially since Ben Affleck has said he has no interest in reprising the role (even though he's a big Daredevil fan). All of this sucks, because the potential to have done a second film would have been great, given the character's rich history.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I like most of the new movies I've seen this past decade (I would have liked Ghost Rider as well if they had had some one besides Nicholas Cage as the character).  In many ways they aren't as fun as the stuff from the 40's - 80's but they seem much truer to the comics than they ever have before, and the effects and stunts are much better executed now than they ever could have been done in the past.  It makes you wish that comic book movies could have waited until the technology was perfected instead of hurrying to make it onto the big or small screen, but then again, it's the corniness of the past that makes those older movies fun.

 

I do want to say something about Daredevil.  I personally think Ben Affleck was an excellent choice for the role but Jennifer Garner as Elektra made no sense and neither did Colin Ferrel as Bullseye.  It was uneven especially towards the end and maybe I'm wrong, but an extra half hour could have helped.  You just felt that the writers' hearts weren't into the project and it was doomed not to have a sequel.  Thor and Iron Man were much better done.

Wanted to start up this discussion because there has been so many to hit the big screens, and I was curious on what your thoughts were on certain ones. Some you may love, some you may hate, what you would have done differently if you were the director. As a comic book fan from the '70's and early '80's, I must admit I really have liked many of them because it is interesting to see these characters brought to life. Even if I wasn't necessarily into some of the series, it was cool to see the adaptations. But not all were "amazing", and instead of me going down the list of all the ones I didn't like or really dug, I'd rather see what you guys think and comment on that...As of this posting, I read two reviews for "Green Lantern", and they both were bad. That's not going to stop me from going to see it, because hell, I have loved movies that critics hated! The last comic book film I saw was "Thor", and I did like it. Of course, I liked Thor comics as a kid, so I liked the way his history translated over into celluloid. Which brings up another question-If you liked a particular superhero, did it annoy you if the screenwriters decided to change their origin? Or was it a good idea? And are you more partial to Marvel or DC? Plus, I'd rather keep this discussion grounded in comic book films from the '90's to the present, and leave the '80's and before behind. (Yes, I know you all loved "Howard the Duck", I mean, who didn't? Ha ha) And I'd also like to keep TV series out of this as well (Although if you're making a point about a film and need to reference a series, go for it.)

Leatherface lest we forget...

Chainsaw Massacre 2 - the family that slays together, stays together.

Weird baby from Eraserhead

Motorhead's Snaggletooth (ok not a movie)

I bin working in the Kremlin with a two-headed dog - ok?

There was an episode of Star Trek when i was a kid that had these multiplying pizza type things? They flew i think, or kinda frisbeed?

And finally John Pertwee's Dr Who - The Green Death - TV I know but shat me up big style - luminescent shit, scary as fuck to little me back then. hide behind the sofa gear I swear. 

Amen to that!

sleazy said:

Vincent Price had CLASS and STYLE...that's why he didn't need make-up:):):)!!!!

Vincent Price had CLASS and STYLE...that's why he didn't need make-up:):):)!!!!

Soraia said:

+1 for Rondo Hatton and Lon Chaney Jr.  Personally my all-time favorite sans makeup ghoul is Vincent Price

+1 for Rondo Hatton and Lon Chaney Jr.  Personally my all-time favorite sans makeup ghoul is Vincent Price

Lon Chaney Jr never needed make-up either:):):)

Tris Burns said:

Rondo Hatton - known as The Monster Who Needed No Makeup

Steve McQueen Epic The Blob

 

 

Rondo Hatton - known as The Monster Who Needed No Makeup

Steve McQueen Epic The Blob

TOXIE!!!!1

Yeah! When he turns his head, that's always my favourite part of the film, ever since I was a kid it's the part I look forward to the most.

Not really a monster I guess, but I always loved Talos in Jason and the Argonauts, or any Harryhausen creation for that matter. But really, nothing beats The Thing.

If I remember well, it was the (in)famous giant of Crete...the huge bronze guard of the canal that came to life: it was defeated by the argonauts when they pulled the plug on his heel and all his life sand flowed out!!!:);:).

Harryhausen was TOPS:):):)

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