YEAH , THE BATMAN SERIALS WERE MADE DURING WWII , SO J.CARROLL NAISH DOES A VERY UNCONVINCING IMPERSONATION OF A JAPANESE SABOTEUR....HE LATER BRAGGED ABOUT HOW GOOD HIS PERFORMANCE WAS......uh , not really. I found a copy of "The Bat" ,maybe before Burton's "Batman"came out....It was generally BELIEVED , but not proven , to have inspired Bob Kane to create Batman. The "Batwoman" movie is pretty silly. Rhino put it out under it's original title. I forget when , I found my copy used. In the mid to late 80's commercial VHS movies ran from $30 to $80. I know that's hard to imagine , now....I DON'T THINK I EVEN DID BUY A COMMERCIAL VHS RELEASE
until around the time of the "Batman" movie (Not THEE BATMAN MOVIE OF '66.).
OH , THERE WAS A CARTOON SHOW CALLED "BATFINK", WHICH I LOVED AS A KID , ABOUT A SUPERHERO THAT LOOKED LIKE A MOUSEY BAT , AND WORE TIGHTS AND A CAPE. HIS SIDEKICK WAS CALLED "KARATE" AND HIS ARCH ENEMY WAS "HUGO A- GO - GO". LIKE A FOOL , I BOUGHT THE DVD BOX SET. IT'S PRETTY BAD. AT LEAST , I DID'NT SPEND TOOO MUCH ON IT....THERE WAS ANOTHER CARTOON CALLED "THE COURAGEOUS CAT", ABOUT A BATMAN - TYPE SUPERHEROTHAT WAS ACTUALLY A CAT. IT HAD A GREAT CRIME JAZZ THEME SONG , WHICH THE NEW YORK DOLLS COVERED , AND JOHNNY THUNDERS KEPT IN HIS SET FOR YEARS. I DON'T THINKI EVER SAW THE SHOW , THOUGH.....
Joey Fuckup said:
I've never seen any of those "Batman" rip-offs you speak of, John, but I have heard of that "Batwoman" film, and have always wanted to see it. I think it was regarded as one of those "lost" cult classics from the '60's drive-in scene. I think it was first released on VHS back when Tim Burton's "Batman" film became a phenomenon. I remember at the time "The Bat" serials were also released along with the '40's (?) "Batman & Robin" cliffhanger series.
John Battles said:
By the way , Joey , congratulations on 200 REPLIES.
Yeah , the only way you can get a lot of those weird movies is thru the private DVD trade or at memorabila shows/conventions. Has anybody ever seen any of the "Batman" ripoffs on TV , like Captain Nice or Super President . They were on TV in or around 1966 , BUT , DID'NT LAST..... Remember "The Wild World of Batwoman" (aka "She Was a Hippie Vampire")? Another cash- in attempt? Mexico's "Bat - Chica" (Chica Murcielago?) was arguably better , and far enough away from a lawsuit.
Joey Fuckup said:
Speaking of a Spiderman/Avengers cross-over, John, there has been fan interest in seeing a film where it does happen. Avi Arad hasn't shot the idea down completely, but has said that they have a pretty clear path on the Avengers franchise and how it will fit in with other Marvel projects, and Spiderman has plenty of his own stories and will more than likely be isoloted from any crossovers.
John Battles said:
There was a comic book in which Spiderman was approached to possibly join The Avengers. Spidey was new on the scene , but the more seasoned pros were understandably impressed. He told them to get bent. But with all the changes and collaborations you see , now , who knows? I was disappointed when Willem Dafoe played Green Goblin , and they put SO MANY APPLIANCES on his face , when all he needed was a false nose and some green greasepaint ,and his ol' reptile face would have been more than ready.
Joey Fuckup said:
Exactly, Rod, Sony took a gamble while they still had the license on Spiderman. With Sam Raimi (then Toby McGuire) aborting a fourth film, someone at Sony/Columbia figured they could re-boot the character since Marvel was doing that anyway. Their dice-rolling has paid off, though, because Marvel has been very impressed with what they've seen on "The Amazing Spiderman", and like I mentioned earlier, a sequel and a Venom film is already being planned. And Avi Arad hasn't ruled out a possibility of having Spiderman crossing over somehow into the Avengers franchise...
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:
Then there's the "why bother when it hasn't been that long ago" argument such as the newest Spider-Man. They are changing so much that I get the feeling that it's not the same at all, which is kind of what the creators are going for but why so soon? Because Sony(?) will lose their license on the character in a few more years and not get to renew if they don't jump on it now.