Don´t get me wrong. Dylan is a really great singer-songwriter, i recognize it myself, but how can i say it? When i hear most of his songs i get kind of bored, are somehow too lame, sluggish, to me. But they do are great songs and that´s why i think it may be possible if not even easy, to make some better covers of one of his songs.

@Glenn Burton, "Positively 4th Street"? Don´t beat me but personally i don´t like this song, though the cover by Johnny Rivers is not that boring to me as the original.

Audio Gasoline said:

I remember reading somewhere that the only cover of his that Dylan liked (of all the covers of his songs) was Jimi's version of "All Along The Watchtower". John, I have to mention one small factoid in your Dylan post: "Turn, Turn, Turn" was a Pete Seeger song (the words were from the Bible, but he wrote the music and did the main arrangement). Dylan in his early years did some bitchin' covers in his own right, especially of traditional blues and gospel standards. Half of his first album were cover songs. (Disclaimer: I'm a fan of "Classic Dylan", and lose interest somewhere around "Blonde On Blonde".... except for "Desire", that album rules.)

Tersicore said:

ha ha, somehow i got the feeling that is not really hard to make a good cover of a Dylan song, sorry! ;D

Can't argue with any of those (esp. 2 I may not have heard yet). Like that you mentioned The Turtles version of "It Ain't Me, Babe". My band, The Shreds Of Evidence, does a version based on The Turtles version but arranged a bit differently. No drastic changes (unless you compare side by side). If we ever get vid on that one I'll post in vids. We need a new topic... Dylan songs we think Dylan did better than any covers. "Positively 4th Street"? ... wait, I don't know of any covers... off to youtube-nah!
 
John Battles said:

There's so many....Jerry Lee Lewis made , pretty much , any song his own.

 

There's so many Dylan covers that , I believe, were better than the originals....

Pretty much any by The Byrds - My Back Pages , Mr. Tambourine , Turn , Turn ,Turn , etc.

Elvis did a total of two Dylan songs. "Don't Think Twice , It's All Right " was just a studio jam that went on for 10 minutes , but really drove the point home......a putdown to the one who put him down. Saying "iT AIN'T NO BIG THING" WHEN IT IS.

it Ain't Me , Babe - Johnny Cash and even The Turtles.

It's aLL over Now , Baby Blue. - Them , Chocolate Watchband , 13TH Floor Elevators.

Isley Bros. - Lay , Lady Lay "Now some people say this cat knows a lot about a lot of things . Me , I like anything that's goy LAY in it !" (Ronnie Isley) 

Yardbirds - Most Likely You'll Go Your Way .

Solomon Burke - Maggie's Farm.

OK , to be fair , I heard Dylan doing "It Takes a Lot To Laugh , It Takes a Train To Cry" , recently. It beats Hell out of Blue Cheer's version.

I don´t need much words for that: love both but i think Cash gave a "soul" to this song!

It´s all double dutch to me, John... are those all (shitty?) bands?
Guess, any cover made by anyone is way better than an original Janet Jackson! ;D
I got bad allergic reactions to tunes of Michel Jackson, go figure to of Janet! 

I think, Kopper is right! in this case is not longer subjective, that´s a fact! ;)

John Battles said:

Ciccone Youth , Chicago Style (Tomatoes , peppers , celery salt , day - glo relish , white onions, mustard. Fuck the no ketchup statute.) ??  This sounds surprisingly inoffensive , but , it is'nt annoying , like a Wax Trax cut. Beats Hell out of the original record . So would a sledge hammer.
 
kopper said:

Killdozer's cover of Janet Jackson's "Nasty" is better than the original.

Yep, sure, is bound to be subjective.
the Man or Astro-man? version of this song is great to my ear too ;)

Pity! I love Suffragette City by Bowie but i couldn´t hear at the cover since is blocked in the country i´m now (or maybe in whole Europe?) 


Audio Gasoline said:

Contemporarily speaking, there's some great covers out there, but harder for me to make the judgement that they're better than the original. Some great versions though, to my ear, include:

Zeke "Midnight Nambla" (Turbonegro)

Nashville Pussy "First I Look At The Purse" (Contours, Smoky Robinson) - ok, this one goes back to the 60s

The Dictators "Search & Destroy" (Stooges)

The Candy Snatchers "Suffragette City" (Bowie)

Supersuckers "400 Bucks" (Rev. Horton Heat)

Man Or Astro-Man? "Dueces Wild" (Link Wray)

Tersicore said:

i´d be more curious about comparing songs which were both, original and cover, quasi contemporary, or from not so extremely different musical genre. 

What do you think?

Ciccone Youth , Chicago Style (Tomatoes , peppers , celery salt , day - glo relish , white onions, mustard. Fuck the no ketchup statute.) ??  This sounds surprisingly inoffensive , but , it is'nt annoying , like a Wax Trax cut. Beats Hell out of the original record . So would a sledge hammer.
 
kopper said:

Killdozer's cover of Janet Jackson's "Nasty" is better than the original.

You're right , Pete Seeger adapted the song from the Book of Ecclesiastes before Dylan did it. I forgot.
 
Audio Gasoline said:

I remember reading somewhere that the only cover of his that Dylan liked (of all the covers of his songs) was Jimi's version of "All Along The Watchtower". John, I have to mention one small factoid in your Dylan post: "Turn, Turn, Turn" was a Pete Seeger song (the words were from the Bible, but he wrote the music and did the main arrangement). Dylan in his early years did some bitchin' covers in his own right, especially of traditional blues and gospel standards. Half of his first album were cover songs. (Disclaimer: I'm a fan of "Classic Dylan", and lose interest somewhere around "Blonde On Blonde".... except for "Desire", that album rules.)

Tersicore said:

ha ha, somehow i got the feeling that is not really hard to make a good cover of a Dylan song, sorry! ;D

Killdozer's cover of Janet Jackson's "Nasty" is better than the original.

Contemporarily speaking, there's some great covers out there, but harder for me to make the judgement that they're better than the original. Some great versions though, to my ear, include:

Zeke "Midnight Nambla" (Turbonegro)

Nashville Pussy "First I Look At The Purse" (Contours, Smoky Robinson) - ok, this one goes back to the 60s

The Dictators "Search & Destroy" (Stooges)

The Candy Snatchers "Suffragette City" (Bowie)

Supersuckers "400 Bucks" (Rev. Horton Heat)

Man Or Astro-Man? "Dueces Wild" (Link Wray)

Tersicore said:

i´d be more curious about comparing songs which were both, original and cover, quasi contemporary, or from not so extremely different musical genre. 

What do you think?

I remember reading somewhere that the only cover of his that Dylan liked (of all the covers of his songs) was Jimi's version of "All Along The Watchtower". John, I have to mention one small factoid in your Dylan post: "Turn, Turn, Turn" was a Pete Seeger song (the words were from the Bible, but he wrote the music and did the main arrangement). Dylan in his early years did some bitchin' covers in his own right, especially of traditional blues and gospel standards. Half of his first album were cover songs. (Disclaimer: I'm a fan of "Classic Dylan", and lose interest somewhere around "Blonde On Blonde".... except for "Desire", that album rules.)

Tersicore said:

ha ha, somehow i got the feeling that is not really hard to make a good cover of a Dylan song, sorry! ;D

Oh yeah, I intentionally avoided FB for about 3 or 4 years because I knew it would be a time- gobbling nemesis. After band was up and running, it was a necessity. I was right about the time...

Yeah. It's getting ridiculous. One good part about the hideous job of hi-volume retail is that I see a few of my FB friends and talk to them in person. Tell them when a gig is coming up, hand them a flyer/schedule (remember those- I think they are still around because they don't require verbal!). It's all part of the general erosion which I have a name for but won't say in print until I have the trademark on it like Pat Reiley (sp?) has on 3-peat. Nyuk, nyuk.

How are you Mr. Battles?

 
John Battles said:

Amen. People who criticized me for not getting on it are now saying they wish they had'nt bothered. Not all of 'em. But , it IS killing how people communicate. Between that and texting , when do people ever TALK , even on the phone? When FB first started , some former friends from college were starting a chat group. They asked one friend I've always been in touch with to join. One of them , a longtime Born - Again Christian said to tell me to get on FB so he could TALK to me. I said , I'll  give him my phone number , if he has anything to say , he can say it to ME. TURNED OUT THE ONES WHO WERE'NT BORN AGAIN IN COLLEGE ARE , NOW , SO , THEY SNUBBED MY FRIEND FOR HAVING A MIND OF HIS OWN, AND HIS OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS......On the other hand , when it comes down to music , there may be reasons to join , but , I'm reading , now , there are plenty of reasons not to. How hard is it to e-mail a personal friend , or , God forbid , call 'em on the phone , if they're not on Face Book , to tell them you have a gig ? We used to do it , all time , not long ago.
 
Allerleirauh said:

Facebook is killing everything.

Damn, the listings improved again. Damnit. Can't fuggin' go :( *sniffle*

And let's not forget (aside from the killer BAND lineup)... not only do you have DJs Jello Fucking Biafra and Russell Fucking Quan, but you also have the Thing With Two Fucking Heads!!!

Damn, I wish I could go to this...

YOU POOR MAN !!! I think they have support groups  for teens and men that had to escort their relatives to NKOTB concerts. Now that they're coming back (EUGGH!), survivors of the 90's campaign can act as sponsors for the unfortunate younger guys who'll have to complete this circle of terror.   The Zeros ,Hell Yeah. I've seen El Vez and The True Believers , Dos Zeros?
  
Johnny Garage said:

First show: 1991 New Kids on the block. My folks didn't want my sis to go by herself so I had to go. 90 minutes of chicks screaming still haunts me to this day

First punk show: 1996 Glasshouse Pomona, Ca. Line up: Red Aunts, New Bomb Turks, Voo Doo Glow Skulls, Union 13 and Strife. My friends and I ditched school to buy Voo Doo's new album at Rhino records because you got a free ticket to the show. That show changed my life.

Best shows: The Zeros @ The Troubadour, The Hives @ The Glasshouse, Japanther @ VLHS, Night Birds @ The Blue Star, NObunny @ The Alexandria, BBQ Show @ El Cid, OBN III's @ The Smell, Guitar Wolf @ The Knitting Factory, 5,6,7,8's @ Knitting Factory...just off of recent memory.

I did see No Doubt at a back yard kegger in Anaheim for $2 bucks 1996. Back when she used to dress up as Alice in Wonderland...I saw Green Day and AFI @ Gilman St in San Francisco for free. 1999 I believe.

I was on 2001 Warped Tour and saw AFI, CIV, Rancid, AFI, Bouncing Souls, Murphys Law, Keith Cool, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes on stage. Priceless memories. Thanks Lyman...

My first show was Aerosmith at Jones Beach in like '95. 

First punk rock show was a local Long Island show with 48 in the Basement and The Skum at  a long-defunct club called Blue.

Best show was The Legendary Shack Shakers at The Middle East in Boston in '08. The closest thing to a punk rock hoedown. Lots of drunk dancing. Awesome.

First show: 1991 New Kids on the block. My folks didn't want my sis to go by herself so I had to go. 90 minutes of chicks screaming still haunts me to this day

First punk show: 1996 Glasshouse Pomona, Ca. Line up: Red Aunts, New Bomb Turks, Voo Doo Glow Skulls, Union 13 and Strife. My friends and I ditched school to buy Voo Doo's new album at Rhino records because you got a free ticket to the show. That show changed my life.

Best shows: The Zeros @ The Troubadour, The Hives @ The Glasshouse, Japanther @ VLHS, Night Birds @ The Blue Star, NObunny @ The Alexandria, BBQ Show @ El Cid, OBN III's @ The Smell, Guitar Wolf @ The Knitting Factory, 5,6,7,8's @ Knitting Factory...just off of recent memory.

I did see No Doubt at a back yard kegger in Anaheim for $2 bucks 1996. Back when she used to dress up as Alice in Wonderland...I saw Green Day and AFI @ Gilman St in San Francisco for free. 1999 I believe.

I was on 2001 Warped Tour and saw AFI, CIV, Rancid, AFI, Bouncing Souls, Murphys Law, Keith Cool, Me First and the Gimme Gimmes on stage. Priceless memories. Thanks Lyman...

Nobunny kills it. Saw them twice late 2012. 

Bobby said:

First show was John Denver when I was a kid. 

First punk show was Fugazi for the Repeater tour. 

Best show might have been Nobunny this past summer, but i have been lucky enought to see some great ones over the years. 

J, are the 7 Shot Screamers still milling around? Thanks.

Jason Ross said:

Heya-

Jason Rerun from St. Louis here. I don't know that I ever posted on this thread. Um, I'm 38 and currently reside in St. Louis, MO. I collect records, mainly '70s-'80s Punk, DIY, Garage, Indie stuff, but lotso' '60s garage, psych, glam, proto-punk, soul, etc too. Early Punk Rock is my main focus, though.

I run two record labels that mostly reissue '70s-'80s Punk and lowbrow Rock records. I also sell/buy/trade used records, cassettes, zines, posters and other music related stuff. You can check out the labels and part of the used stock at: www.RerunRecordsSTL.com

Send me a friend request!

Thanks

Jason

From Los Angeles, Ca. Was forced to join a band with my friends in 2000 and play an instrument I had never played (guitar). I taught myself how to play a crappy version of guitar by listening to Angus Young, Johnny Thunders, Johnny Ramone, Poision Ivy, Billy Zoom and Billy Childish. I have been in to garage/punk/rock'n'roll ever since. The podcast's here rule. Razorcake's rule too. 

If you are going to do something wrong, do it right.

Looking forward it. Hanging to see them all at The Hordern here in Sydney in April too. Tix were steep, but fuck it. Dudes are legends

Japanther.

Really into The Spits!

Meh. Dollrods suck. They played in St. Louis several years ago and were too unimpressed with our pizza joint/southside bar venue to give a rat's ass about us, so why should I give a rat's ass about them? As they were setting up, they realized they were missing one 
of their bags that contained their stage costumes (pasties, special panties, etc.). We waited a LONG time for them to start... maybe an hour? Something like that. You could tell they were pissed. They were mostly hanging outside the club, yapping away on cell phones, complaining about everything and in real foul moods. They even had a dog with them (who the fuck takes a dog with them on tour?) and were playing with it or whatever out on the sidewalk. They didn't like the bar and they weren't at all happy about the crowd (it was an unusually small turnout, even for a weeknight, but especially for a weekend). So they finally took the stage a little after Midnight and played maybe 5 or 6 songs... really short set. If it was more than 20 minutes I'd be really surprised. Everyone was pretty surprised when they just suddenly stopped, put down their instruments, and disconnected their shit. No "thanks for coming," "sorry we can't play anymore cuz we don't have our costumes," nothing. It'll be a cold day in Hell that I ever go see them again!

Boaby Digital said:

Demolition Doll Rods 'On' is an album I never tire of hearing. I'd love to see them come back for more sometime.