Yeah , Farren definitely had the look , but , like The Dolls and other bands influenced by The Five , he probably was'nt aware of them until "Kick Out The Jams" came out.....possibly not ,he could haveseen something in the Underground PRESS IN 67 OR EARLY 68. He said that he had to tell The MC5 THEY WOULD'NT BE PAID TO PLAY THE PHUN CITY FESTIVAL , as it had been turned into a free festival (They could'nt take donations from the crowd for a band that flew overseas to play?). bUT , FARREN REMEMBERED IT AS , HE TOLD THEM BEFORE THEY WENT ON , AND WAYNE KRAMER SAID , AT FARREN'S MEMORIAL , MICK DID'NT TELL THEM UNTIL AFTER THEY PLAYED. I USED TO KNOW WAYNE KRAMER , THO' NOT REAL WELL. HE TOLD ME HE HAD JUST HEARD A TAPE OF A RADIO INTERVIEW WHERE FRED SMITH DESCRIBED A RIOT THAT BROKE OUT AT ONE OF THEIR GIGS. HE TOLD ME HE REMEMBERED THAT HAPPENING , BUT , NOT HOW SMITH DESCRIBED IT , BUT , SINCE IT HAD JUST HAPPENED WHEN HE RECALLED THE EVENT , HIS RECOLLECTION HAD TO BE RIGHT. WE ALL REMEMBER THINGS HOW WE WANT TO. IT DOES'NT MEAN YOU'RE LYING IF YOU SAY IT AS YOU REMEMBER IT. I TOLD WAYNE , WHEN I MET ROB TYNER , HE SAID JAMES BROWN WAS THEIR IDOL (TRUE DAT.) , BUT THEY NEVER DID ANY OFHIS SONGS. WAYNE KNOWS THAT'S WRONG , I KNEW IT WAS WRONG AT THE TIME.....BUT , IT WAS JUST HOW ROB REMEMBERED IT.