Also , I don't know if it was Wikipedia , but Sylvain Sylvain once told me he found his name on the internet in association with the group , Japan , because New Rose had put out a Live album from Japan in '75 by the last installment of The Dolls (Pre - reformation.) that said "DAVID" and "SYLVAIN" on the cover, with graphics similar to those seen on David Sylvian (Japan's former lead singer)'s records , or Japan's albums , themselves ......So , Sylvain was listed as having been a member of Japan and having worked with Riyuichi Sakamoto , which , of course , he never had , but , his response was " Hey , I did'nt work with these people , but , thanks , anyway.". There was an Artie Kane who'd been Barbara Streisand's Producer , so , Sylvain also found a listing for Arthur Kane , from The Dolls , as Barbara Streisand's Producer......OK , IT'S FUNNIER WHEN SYL TELLS IT.  James , the floor is yours. Could you tell us , please , the story about the first New York Dolls album cover ? I'm sure it beats Hell out of anything Wikipedia will ever say about it.
 
John Battles said:

It's the difference between OUR truth and theirs , I think. You or I may know that something they've put up is inaccurate or incomplete , but if misinformation gets past their (Non) filters , it's going to be difficult proving them wrong. Do I still refer to them ? Of course , but , we can't take their word for gold , not when you have to go thru so many hurdles , in effect , to HELP them , by correcting an error or filling in blank spaces.  
 
James Porter said:

Hell, I didn't even know it took much to get on Wikipedia in the first place. Can't anybody just write anything? Most Wiki articles I see have some outlandishly wrong factoid in the first place!

It's the difference between OUR truth and theirs , I think. You or I may know that something they've put up is inaccurate or incomplete , but if misinformation gets past their (Non) filters , it's going to be difficult proving them wrong. Do I still refer to them ? Of course , but , we can't take their word for gold , not when you have to go thru so many hurdles , in effect , to HELP them , by correcting an error or filling in blank spaces.  
 
James Porter said:

Hell, I didn't even know it took much to get on Wikipedia in the first place. Can't anybody just write anything? Most Wiki articles I see have some outlandishly wrong factoid in the first place!

The way I see it John: it's the universe speaking to you through wikipedia, saying you need to expand your artistic medium to include film. Just sayin'.

John Carlucci said:

 ...the link took you to a page from some film maker that obviously was not me. 

Actually, quite a few of our members have found the Hideout because of the GaragePunk.com entry there. So that's not entirely true. It's good for what it is, but you just have to remember to take the information you read there with a grain of salt and always double-check facts (ahem, Steve! haha).

John Carlucci said:

We should name this thread, "No one cares about Wikipedia" lol!

 There was a a link on a wikipedia page of The Fuzztones crediting the bass player as John Carluccio, & the link took you to a page from some film maker that obviously was not me. So I corrected it, and got a notice that my entry might be "Peacocking" (posting by the subject to advertise) & needed verification! lol. So I wrote an explanation that I was just correcting mis-information & they still have it flagged! lol!! Luckily, someone else linked a NY Times story I was mentioned in, so they left it up. LOL. I mean seriously, they were okay with some idiot putting a link to the wrong person, but not okay with my verification that I was the credited musician?? The other guy wasn't even a musician!

I love the 'CRACKER BARREL BEER AND LOBSTER HOUSE' reference ! 

Either:

Or:

I was listening to the utterly awesome "Sister Ray", by The Velvet Underground, when you played idents & jingles over this utterly awesome song. I heard the trailer for the awful 1960's "Batman"" TV series and the "Casper" Theme tune, among others. It was disrespectful to Messers Reed, Cale, Tucker, et al, as they woked so hard to get it published. I assume this was unintentional, but I don't want to listen to an ident played over an exquisite song as "Sister Ray". I'd rather hear the VU, not "Casper The Friendly Ghost".

Thanks for playing JAMC.  

I'm new here.  I was on the Bomp list for a few years (I think 1995 or 1996 until 2002), then on a few various other music-related Yahoo groups.  I'm Andrea, and I live in the Boston area with my husband Mike.  We go to some shows, but less and less as we get old and crochety. 

I love 60s garage and mod music, and have loved many of the revivals.  I was in my 20s during the early 90s revival and really hit my stride there.  I lived in New Orleans for part of that and saw the Royal Pendletons practically every week, as well as all of the great bands who would come through such as the Woggles (still a huge fave), the Oblivians, SCOTS, and probably a million more I'm forgetting.

My favorite local band is Muck and the Mires, and I have a couple of their LPs on my mp3 player for when I go to the gym (they are excellent workout music).

My other hobbies are knitting (no shit don't laugh), going out on hikes and photographing all the cool things I see (including snakes we catch), watching genre flicks (mostly horror and 60s/70s Italian - giallo and policia -- as well as Roger Corman-esque b-movies) and hanging out at home (we have three cats, a ball python, a special needs bearded dragon and are currently fostering a red-eared slider).

I feel as though I've gotten woefully out of the loop with music the past few years and hope to learn of bands and releases I may have missed.

http://garagepunk.ning.com/profiles/blogs/old-school-zeroes-9

Episode 9 is hot and ready like a Little Ceasers Pizza. It costs less than 5 bucks though...cause it's free! Garage Garage! Cheesy I know...LIKE A PIZZA! HAAAAAAAAAA.

I found out about so many new sounds thanks to R. Fink. I miss that so much.

Thanks for the tip Preach and apologies for taking so long to get back to you, technical difficulties and all that! R Fink does put a power of work into bringing us exciting rock n roll sounds so hopefully he'll pass this way again.
 
The screamin' Soul Preacher said:

I really miss Rock'n'Roll Suicide too, one of my very favorite podcasts here.

R. Fink has a great weekly radio show too, check THIS if you're in deep need for lo-fi R'n'R !

Hopefully he will come back here with a tear-ass episode someday !!!

 

Mummies, for sure.  Rip-Offs were also blinking ace.

Fire Bad!

http://www.reverbnation.com/#!/firebad

Los Tiki Phantoms from Spain.

Kitty indeed was the rightful queen of country music. She died Monday from complications from a stroke. She was 92.

She's best known for her 1952 hit "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels," written by J.D. Miller, probably is the greatest "answer song" in the history of music. It was a pointed reply to the Hank Thompson's "The Wild Side of Life."

But one of the most soulful country songs ever recorded was Kitty's "Making Believe." Kitty had a hit with it in the '50s. Emmylou Harris and Merle Haggard both did fine versions. But I also love how Social Distortion made it work as a punk-rock stomper.

Here's an obituary from the Los Angeles Times' Pop & Hiss blog. And below are videos of Kitty singing those two wonderful songs.

Here's T-Model with my son (who is 20 now)

Yeah, but why do really good recordings, I'm thinking Nirvana, Rancid, DKM, sound good everywhere? Answer: Every stage of the recording process is done on top of the line equipment by talented experts. It transcends the shortcomings of various playback systems. If you're recording with so-so stuff and medium-skilled people (like most of us), mastering isn't going to make you sound like them. Er... I guess that's why they call it Garage.

Good point about speakers. 

It probably makes sense to skew the master mix slightly toward the kind of speakers one's target audience will most likely be using. 

I heard Elvis was a stickler for this approach, at least in the early days (see photos from '56 below). He'd preview his acetates on an inexpensive battery-operated record player, and if he didn't think they sounded good there, he have the master mix adjusted accordingly. I understand the Stones did something similar, rushing down to their limo during sessions with a cassette to see whether or not the latest tweak still sounded good on a car system. 

The holy grail, of course, is a master mix that sounds great on both low and high fidelity systems.

I always thought that if one could afford the cost of multiple mastering mixes, this would be a great strategy, ie shoot for a master that sounds decent on, say, laptop PC speakers, iPod/iPhone headphones, car stereos, AND high end audio systems.  

Difficult, yes; but if old timers could do it with analog equipment, clearly not impossible.

THEE DIRTYBEATS - maximum vintage garage
http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com

The one-dimensional concept of "louder is better" has already been mentioned; most mixes nowadays are "pushed" pretty hard (compressionwise) even before the mastering stage – maybe that can explain why the difference is minimal... there's simply not always a lot of headroom for a mastering engineer to work with (although a good mastering engineer should care enough to tell you if this is the case!).

Also, regarding different speakers; remember that different rooms (and speaker placement for that matter) also affect what comes out of those speakers, and in turn what your ears register (muffled/crisp/?..).  In my experience there's always a difference when comparing mixes in the studio and in my living room, even with the same speakers.

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yeah we sent them out.... i would have been a pain in the guys butt if i had been there. trying to control everything. i was a different guy than mixed it too. i wanted to be there for the mixing, but that part turned out really well.

the mastered version sounded mufffled to me on two different sets of speakers. but then i got it home, and it was crisp. i almost couldn't tell any difference between the mastered and unmastered. so maybe g wood is right, garage fans like it more raw, right to the point that my home speakers are more thin than other peoples....

maybe, i don't know.

Larabee said:

I generally agree with G. Wood's comments.  Mastering does affect the overall volume level but it also can shape the sound of each track.  Shmo, I can't tell from your post whether you attended the mastering session, or whether you sent the tracks to someone to master and they sent them back to you.   I recommend that if you get the opportunity to attend a mastering session, that you do it.  And while you are there, ask all of the questions you have about the mastering process.  I also recommend that you have the tracks mastered by someone other than the person who mixed (and/or recorded) the tracks.

The Gravitrons are my fave because they're from my hometown of Columbia, SC AND they sound like surf meets early Blondie. 

.....Have to agree here.....they are horrible.....and the only one I have ever played, played and sounded every bit as good as it looked.......

Mardy Pune said:

Dean guitars are pretty bloody awful to look at...

oldtimer here:

Rain Parade. Plan 9, Plasticland, The Inmates, Chesterfield Kings, just about anything on Midnight Records too, The Lyres, Soft Boys, Dream Syndicate, Creatures of the Golden Dawn, Dead Moon, The Prisoners, The Fleshtones, The Embrooks, Flamin' Groovies, Hoodoo Gurus, Long Ryders.  Just to name a few:

thank you pulsebeats!!! i thought Die antwoord " i fink you freaky" was gonna be the best video i saw this year. oh this  is awesome. do you know where to find lyrics for it?

whatwave dave said:

That video is hilarious!!!!  Love the animated parts!!!!

The Pulsebeats said:

I've recently come across an ace band from Valencia by the name of La Moto De Fernan by way of this, perhaps one of the best videos I've seen in a long while. Takes me back to the days of Ren & Stimpy!

There's a band coming out of Salford, England right now as well called The Calimocho Club. They're playing stipped back blues like early Black Keys, but before that they Were The Black Knights. Glorious trash blues...and not a bass note in sight.