Well , these were just some of the first names that came to mind. I don't think I getting that far outside of the box. I think , most people believe that "Garage Punk" or "Garage Rock" ( I first heard the terms being used more than 30 years ago.) began with the thousands of mid-60's teen bands , some of whom had hits , mutating into the 70's Punk bands (Maybe some of them do , and others don't , fall under that banner.) , the early 80's Garage Revival , the 90's Garage Revival and Garage Punk scenes (Like the bands you mentioned. Some were more 70's , and even 80's - influenced. Some people say Punk Garage , instead , because the 60's influence in many - not all - of those bands is less apparent.), and still mutating to this day. I would'nt dedicate a huge wing to the 50's , if , in some better world , the museum became a reality , but , I would'nt ignore the bands and individual artists that had a direct effect on that stuff ,either.
The first KNOWN use of the word "Punk" to describe a musical genre , in a magazine , was by Dave Marsh , reviewing a Question Mark gig in 1971. Story of Pop in The UK RAN AN ARTICLE JUST CALLED"PUNK ROCK" IN '72 OR 73 (?) , referring to mid -60's US Garage bands , well known and not so much.But , The Encyclopedia of Rock (ca. 1969 or 70.)by Ellie Coxon (sic) also referred to "Punk Rock" , but meaning Alice Cooper , The Sabs , even Bloodrock. Greg Shaw , Bomp! and Pebbles , too , no doubt , had a hand in it , as did Lenny Kaye , who also used the phrase in the liners to "Nuggets" in '72. To most people , I think , Garage PUNK or Rock means a lot of things.
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The problem with these things, if you ask me, is once you start including bands, then you start including their influences and pretty much any band or artist that somehow falls under wild rock'n'roll gets lumped in with "garage punk." There's too much crossover between good ol' rock'n'roll and garage rock and garage punk and whatever else you wanna call this noise we all dig. Now, if you ask me (again, ha!), the title of this thread says it all: Garage-Punk Hall of Infamy. Which bands were "from the garage" (or had that "sound") and then combined that with punk attitude? While I think punk has obvious roots in the '60s (and even '50s), ya gotta remember that it wasn't called that back then, and it wasn't until the '70s that bands started being called (or calling themselves) "punk" and then "garage punk" came even later than that (thanks to Tim Warren, I think). Retrospectively, you can look back at the recorded output of lots of bands and say, yeah, ya know, the Sonics, Monks, Link Wray, Seeds, all of that stuff is essentially punk rock... even though at the time it was just called rock'n'roll or teen music. Bands of the '80s garage revival... the rowdier ones, anyway, were the first to really combine garage AND punk and make it into its own distinct style or subgenre of rock'n'roll, which is where the Mummies, Oblivians, Cynics, Guitar Wolf, Stomachmouths, New Bomb Turks, Teengenerate, the Devil Dogs, Thee Mighty Caesars/Headcoats and so on fit into this. And notice, too, that he used the word "Infamy" and not "Fame"... what's infamy? Having a reputation for something that's viewed as evil or bad. Not for being "famous" (which has always been my problem with the "Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame"... a lot of the greatest rock'n'roll acts were never all that famous, sad but true).
Not sure where I'm going with this, but it's interesting nonetheless. I guess some of those acts that you recommended, John, while I agree are all fantastic, I just don't think all of them fall under this sort of category unless you really start opening the floodgates, ya know?
