Rockin' Rod , I know we're straying from the original point , but "Louie Louie" is hard to fuck up....When I first heard The Kingsmen's version ,in about 1980 , I knew A) It was considered one of the first "Punk" records , and B) It supposedly contained dirty words.

I LIKED it , on first listen (Albeit in a somewhat noisy bar , on the jukebox.) , but , I was'nt quite sure what the fuss was about , back then. Yes , it sounded raunchy , even for the day, and I considered the possibility of a "Fuck" or "Shit " thrown in , here or there , amidst the nearly unintelligible vocals of soon to be ex - Kingsmen Vocalist , Jack Ely. 

I only ever heard Richard Berry's version in passing , in the next 10 years , but , surprisingly , it was MOTORHEAD's version that was the first one where the lyrics , basically the same as Berry's (Though Lemmy changes the West Indian phrasing of "Me see Jamaica..." to "I see Jamaica" , but , big deal.), were perfectly clear , to me ..... Anyway , now 55 Years old , the song is like a Folk song , handed down from one Artist to another , sometimes with very interesting results....A Rock standard of the highest order , also done in a non - Rock context (The Sandpipers , anyone ?). But , it's hard for me to pin down a favorite. I love The Sonics and Swamp Rats' versions for different reasons , one being extremely grungy for it's time , the other , grungier still (And by "Grunge" , you know I don't mean the much - hyped Seattle sound of roughly '88 - '94. We used to call stuff like The Sonics and Link Wray "Grunge Rock" or "Grunge Guitar" before The Sub Pop sound was happening. I was calling my own music "Gutteral Guitar Grunge" back in '86.) , But , there are so many versions , besides the roughly half - dozen (Berry , Kingsmen , Sonics , Wailers , Raiders , and maybe , by now , The Swamp Rats , too.) that are , for obvious reasons , help up as the template.    Roy Loney said that when The Flamin' Groovies were doing "Louie" live in the late 60's , it was almost considered tasteless. Tastes change , but ,a great song is still a great song. I think I've only ever done the song once with The Shitty Beatles about 25 years ago in Dallas , and once or twice , 5  years ago in honor of the song's Fiftieth anniversary. When my friend and I saw The Wailers , they told us that there was a small affair , honoring the anniversay of the song , in Seattle , with The Wailers , Kingsmen , and an appearance by Paul Revere....But , NOT Mark Lindsay (?!!). They said it was a quickly thrown together thing , when it should have been a two day blowout. Oh , well....

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Well that's a smart and hearty answer and good reasoning behind a Swamp Rats answer than just blurting out "SWAMP RATS" with out regard to the premise(?).  I love their version of "Psycho" but "Louie Louie" kind of left me cold good as it is.

Ryan Hatt said:

I agree with the Swamp Rats voters which, yes Rod, means that technically I vote for The Sonics but let me explain why I think that's not exactly true.  Until late middle school I wasn't allowed to listen to much more than what the "oldies" stations were playing in LA, which means that the Kingsmen version was the first rendition of Louie Louie I ever heard and I always thought it was just ok.  While in college a couple of years back with (forgive me) absolutely no knowledge of The Sonics I picked up one of the Back From The Grave comps and was completely blown away by The Swamp Rats doing their Sonics cover.  We're talking constant repeat, nearly wrecking my car because I was rocking while driving sort of stuff.  I did the research and learned it was their version of The Sonics arrangement so I went to check out The Sonics and was utterly disappointed by just how toned down and "Ed Sullivan" their version felt comparatively.  Sorry.  I think The Sonics have the better arrangement, but, like some of Dylan's work, I don't think they utilized its potential.

Well that's a smart and hearty answer and good reasoning behind a Swamp Rats answer than just blurting out "SWAMP RATS" with out regard to the premise(?).  I love their version of "Psycho" but "Louie Louie" kind of left me cold good as it is.

Ryan Hatt said:

I agree with the Swamp Rats voters which, yes Rod, means that technically I vote for The Sonics but let me explain why I think that's not exactly true.  Until late middle school I wasn't allowed to listen to much more than what the "oldies" stations were playing in LA, which means that the Kingsmen version was the first rendition of Louie Louie I ever heard and I always thought it was just ok.  While in college a couple of years back with (forgive me) absolutely no knowledge of The Sonics I picked up one of the Back From The Grave comps and was completely blown away by The Swamp Rats doing their Sonics cover.  We're talking constant repeat, nearly wrecking my car because I was rocking while driving sort of stuff.  I did the research and learned it was their version of The Sonics arrangement so I went to check out The Sonics and was utterly disappointed by just how toned down and "Ed Sullivan" their version felt comparatively.  Sorry.  I think The Sonics have the better arrangement, but, like some of Dylan's work, I don't think they utilized its potential.

I agree with the Swamp Rats voters which, yes Rod, means that technically I vote for The Sonics but let me explain why I think that's not exactly true.  Until late middle school I wasn't allowed to listen to much more than what the "oldies" stations were playing in LA, which means that the Kingsmen version was the first rendition of Louie Louie I ever heard and I always thought it was just ok.  While in college a couple of years back with (forgive me) absolutely no knowledge of The Sonics I picked up one of the Back From The Grave comps and was completely blown away by The Swamp Rats doing their Sonics cover.  We're talking constant repeat, nearly wrecking my car because I was rocking while driving sort of stuff.  I did the research and learned it was their version of The Sonics arrangement so I went to check out The Sonics and was utterly disappointed by just how toned down and "Ed Sullivan" their version felt comparatively.  Sorry.  I think The Sonics have the better arrangement, but, like some of Dylan's work, I don't think they utilized its potential.

I'm not too familiar with HM or that band, but I'm always sad when an artist passes away...NOT so much when a politician passes away:):):):):):)!!!!

Hey I heard the Tough Shits were supposed to put out a full length this summer.... Haven't seen it, any heard anything?

This is really gonna suck for people with shitty internet connections and even those with broadband given the talk of ISPs putting up "tollbooths" and limiting bandwidth.  Maybe people will start going back out to see live music again *GASP*!

Meanwhile, vinyl sales are up.

http://www.economist.com/node/21526296

http://mashable.com/2011/08/15/vinyl-record-sales-rise-uk/

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/vinyl-sales-increase-despite-industry-slump-20110106

http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2011/08/uk-vinyl-record-sales-jump-55-so-far-this-year-.html

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2011-02-25-vinyl25_ST_N.htm
Michelle Magnero said:

Talk about a retarded idea.  It's not like anyone actually wants to go to the store and purchase an album or hold it in their hands or look at the art or anything...or what if they might actually want to have the album just to, I don't know, own it or something?  Just doesn't make sense to me. What the hell is the point in downloading other than the fact that it is portable and on demand? What about the idea of the album as cultural artifact? This is the same type of thing that is happening to libraries and such. People have been saying for awhile now that all books will be digital too. Someone on here was saying magazines will probably disappear as well. They are probably right. Technology has made it so that people don't really care so much about the tangibility of the object anymore, or about collecting etc (and as much debate as there is about collections and the status of the collector in society, I would say that in these days collecting is fading out as well, maybe not within groups such as Hideout members, but that is just one small microcosm of society, not the larger picture.)

Talk about a retarded idea.  It's not like anyone actually wants to go to the store and purchase an album or hold it in their hands or look at the art or anything...or what if they might actually want to have the album just to, I don't know, own it or something?  Just doesn't make sense to me. What the hell is the point in downloading other than the fact that it is portable and on demand? What about the idea of the album as cultural artifact? This is the same type of thing that is happening to libraries and such. People have been saying for awhile now that all books will be digital too. Someone on here was saying magazines will probably disappear as well. They are probably right. Technology has made it so that people don't really care so much about the tangibility of the object anymore, or about collecting etc (and as much debate as there is about collections and the status of the collector in society, I would say that in these days collecting is fading out as well, maybe not within groups such as Hideout members, but that is just one small microcosm of society, not the larger picture.)

I'm excited! I have never really been a big fan of cd's myself. 

   I am also a man who gets asked and hears others ask, "Why did you put it out on cassette?"

However, this article mentions the digital download becoming the head honcho. I like the digital download. I like the idea of not lugging around, wait... I dont purchase or listen to cd's. 

   For people who don't own record or cassette players or other forms to import and listen to music, I don't see this being an issue. 

   As for people who purchase cd's on the regular, they'll have to get used to keeping their Down Load cards in one place. 

   Most of all I think that the environmental impact that cd's leave, and for that matter all types of music media, could be altered and improved greatly. 

Then again, who the Hell am I? What do I know?

This is just a badly written article which so far is the only web-site that has such a story.  Billboard hasn't written anything.  Neither has Rolling Stone (which you know would have jumped on this if there was a shred of truth).  While major labels are probably having problems with their r & b and hip hop sales, there is an uprise in labels that sell back catalogs and oldies collections, Sundazed having the most success.  But there isn't one quote from an industry insider even with the "update".  CDs will most certainly disappear but not by the end of next year.  That's like saying that vinyl was going to be done with by the end of the 80s.

Yeah don't hold your breath because that's never going to happen. 

Thomas Marshall said:

Well mp3s are lossy and I want my audio lossless which is both vinyl and cds! I'm waiting for hd blu-rays to be properly used for artists. Albums on those will be truly awesome. 

LOL!  That did happen to a friend of mine:)

DammitDave said:

"The next monument to fall? That will be printed magazines as people will want to consume their information online where they also read most of the news."

I wonder how many people have dropped their phone or tablet in the bowl when they want to read the USA Today on the toilet.  Make sure to wash your hands before using the touch screen!

"The next monument to fall? That will be printed magazines as people will want to consume their information online where they also read most of the news."

I wonder how many people have dropped their phone or tablet in the bowl when they want to read the USA Today on the toilet.  Make sure to wash your hands before using the touch screen!

I can see it now: "thanks for coming out, tip your bartenders and servers, and make sure to take out your smartphone and download our new album right now!"

That's more punk rock than me!

Well mp3s are lossy and I want my audio lossless which is both vinyl and cds! I'm waiting for hd blu-rays to be properly used for artists. Albums on those will be truly awesome. 

Wow, I couldn't imagine life without a turntable. Sounds like a curse!

MikeL said:

Kind of sad, but inevitable.  I still have a big CD collection, but lately I've been downloading LPs more often because that's the only way I can get a release that I want.  

 

Since vinyl has been enjoying such a huge resurgence, I've been toying with the idea of getting a turntable, after doing without a turntable for over 25 years.  It would feel weird, especially after turntables were made obsolete by CD players so many years ago, and now CDs are officially obsolete.

 

BTW, did anyone here ever have eight tracks?  I remember them when I was a kid, but I never had any myself.  

Just in case you missed it, you still can listen to the latest episode of THE HOUSE OF WILD DELIGHTS around HERE !!! 

Two words: tube amp. Yeah, guitars matter but what you send your signal through can be even more important. Plugging into a nice ol' tube amp and cranking up all the knobs makes the speakers break up reeeeeal nice!

Fender Lead I  (awesome ax with a really hot humbucker)

   through a 

SOVTEK Mig60 (chunky raunchy stew amp)

drummer uses...

Ludwig Drumset w/ one rack tom, floor tom, snare, hi-hat, crash and ride, and kick.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dpVEyF9Xg20/TbjyBt7tm9I/AAAAAAAAAC4/zbXntArSmos/s1600/mosrite+3.jpg

this is what I call beauty

I know vox is cool and all that, build in tremolo and stuff.. but daaanm what I think these phantoms are ugly as hell.

Last "proper" show I attended was Paul Weller a few months ago in Hollywood. And B-52's next to a lake over the summer.

this is the first what come to my mind :P

The Big Mix – 2/11/11

1 – Love To See You Bleed – Roky Erickson

2 – Cry Girl Girl Cry – The Butchers

3 – Graveyard Woman – The Woggles

4 – No More Hot Dogs – Hasil Adkins

5 – Last Dance – 10 Foot Ganja Plant

6 – Lost Girl – The Troggs

7 – I Hate Cha – Andre Williams

8 – Bitch – Problem Hair

9 – Knoxville Girl – Brett Sparks

10 – I Don’t Like You – Thee Headcoats

11 – The Last Kiss – Orion

12 – Who’ll Be The Next In Line – The Kinks

13 – I Ain’t Gonna Love You Any More – Ernest Tubb

14 – Just One More Night – The Milkshakes

15 – No Mans No Good – Ultra Bimbos

16 – I Want My Baby Dead – Manikins

17 – Other Shoe – Old 97s

18 – Now She’s Dead – Downliners Sect

19 – Wrapped In Red – Black Monday

20 – She’s A Cadaver – Pagans

21 – I’m Gonna Kill My Baby Tonight – The Mummies

22 – Love Like Anthrax – Gang Of 4

23 – Pardon Me, I’ve Got Someone To Kill – Andre Williams and the Sadies

24 – Happily Ever After – The Nevermores

25 – Dead Girlfriend – Dragstrip Demons

26 – Lick It – Dwarves

I'm no great fan of Henry or even Black Flag (Heresy in my country , I know.) , but , when he gets  it , he nails the fucker on the head , and he sure did , here. The Stooges tours are reaping millions (Not , I don't think , so much because a song or two appeared in a commercial.) , and I say , RIGHT ON !!!! But , to get back to Henry , it's true these songs we're talking about were , as Iggy put it , "Not originally commercially concieved",but there are all kinds of monies unaccounted for , from the sales of Punk and proto - Punk records. If that Artists can get back what's rightfully theirs , and collect a sweet chunk of interest , besides , then , why not ? the monks would have been no more , no less , popular , today ,  had "Monk Time" not briefly appeared in a commercial. They still had to get out there and WORK , as they were'nt getting younger , and , sadly , two of them are gone , now. They did'nt even have the previous popularity of The Pistols , Buzzcocks , Fall , Stooges , Cramps , etc. , so , I think it's great that someone had thought to include them in an ad , if only briefly. It does'nt change things so drastically , except , yes , for a change , the Artists are being compensated. Bands like The Creation , featured in a commercial , and a major motion picture , their status has'nt changed that much . They were in the midst of being rediscovered , anyway. They played here , two nights in a row , a monday and a tuesday , something the so - called "Promotor" was against , because  he did'nt know who they were. When they sold out both nights (Which does NOT happen  in Chicago on two weeknights in a row .), the guy who fought the booking tried to take credit for it. The record industry is no different. Does anyone really think The Stooges or The Sex Pistols have'nt earned gold , maybe even platinum , records by now? Ask the surviving band members where said awards are , now ?  They're doing better than that. Take the cash , Take the K.A.S.H.

edmur said:

As usual, Henry Rollins succinctly sums up this concept and argument: