I'm no great fan of Henry or even Black Flag (Heresy in my country , I know.) , but , when he gets  it , he nails the fucker on the head , and he sure did , here. The Stooges tours are reaping millions (Not , I don't think , so much because a song or two appeared in a commercial.) , and I say , RIGHT ON !!!! But , to get back to Henry , it's true these songs we're talking about were , as Iggy put it , "Not originally commercially concieved",but there are all kinds of monies unaccounted for , from the sales of Punk and proto - Punk records. If that Artists can get back what's rightfully theirs , and collect a sweet chunk of interest , besides , then , why not ? the monks would have been no more , no less , popular , today ,  had "Monk Time" not briefly appeared in a commercial. They still had to get out there and WORK , as they were'nt getting younger , and , sadly , two of them are gone , now. They did'nt even have the previous popularity of The Pistols , Buzzcocks , Fall , Stooges , Cramps , etc. , so , I think it's great that someone had thought to include them in an ad , if only briefly. It does'nt change things so drastically , except , yes , for a change , the Artists are being compensated. Bands like The Creation , featured in a commercial , and a major motion picture , their status has'nt changed that much . They were in the midst of being rediscovered , anyway. They played here , two nights in a row , a monday and a tuesday , something the so - called "Promotor" was against , because  he did'nt know who they were. When they sold out both nights (Which does NOT happen  in Chicago on two weeknights in a row .), the guy who fought the booking tried to take credit for it. The record industry is no different. Does anyone really think The Stooges or The Sex Pistols have'nt earned gold , maybe even platinum , records by now? Ask the surviving band members where said awards are , now ?  They're doing better than that. Take the cash , Take the K.A.S.H.

edmur said:

As usual, Henry Rollins succinctly sums up this concept and argument:

The first time I can remember a song I realllly loved being used in a commercial was a Range Rover ad with the Sonics "Have Love, Will Travel". I didn't bother me in the least....but even having such a kick ass soundtrack still wouldn't compel me to buy one of those awful SUV's.

I also heard the Creation "making time" in a beer commerical Monday night.  I think it was Miller Lite

I saw the Cynics last Saturday night at the 31st Street Pub, and they put on a great show.

On a sad note, it may be the last time they will ever play at the Pub, because business has been bad at the venue and the owner is looking into selling the place.  The Pub was the place where I got my first taste of garage, i.e. Cynics, Swingin' Neckbreakers, and the Flestones, all in the summer of 2000.  I also saw the Dictators for the first time at the Pub in July 2001, and I discovered other bands such as Cobra Verde, Paybacks, and Manda and the Marbles at the Pub.  

I might become a convert soon:)  See my previous post.

Old School Hero said:

Who want's to start the Born Again Vinyl church with me?

Kind of sad, but inevitable.  I still have a big CD collection, but lately I've been downloading LPs more often because that's the only way I can get a release that I want.  

Since vinyl has been enjoying such a huge resurgence, I've been toying with the idea of getting a turntable, after doing without a turntable for over 25 years.  It would feel weird, especially after turntables were made obsolete by CD players so many years ago, and now CDs are officially obsolete.

BTW, did anyone here ever have eight tracks?  I remember them when I was a kid, but I never had any myself.  

wow

Well, having a few radio shows spanning over 20 years spoiled me. You get used to the convenience of being able to pop a CD into a disc player and hitting the track number and pause button, cued up and ready to go. Cuing up vinyl LPs every two minutes for two or three straight hours is a huge pain in the ass, especially when you're also supposed to be going on mic every so often, keeping a log of the songs you're playing, plugging in PSAs, commercials, etc., and still finding time to answer the phone, run to the bathroom, smoke a cigarette, take transmitter readings, whatever. CDs made being a radio DJ a LOT easier. But these days you don't even need to lug your CDs around to do a radio show... all you need is an iPod or two, plug them into the control board and no one will know the difference. Also, playing your precious vinyl on radio station turntables with questionable needle quality (you have no idea how the other jocks on the station are treating these needles, and they may go six months or a year before getting replaced) you often find your records getting worn down a lot sooner than they should be. So anyway, while I saw the convenience of CDs from a radio DJ's point of view (to the point where I would actually prefer bands send CD promos to me instead of vinyl), I can also totally understand why we've reached the end of their lifespan. They're just not necessary anymore when you can purchase 320 kbps MP3s from just about anywhere and burn your own CDs, or put them on your MP3 players or whatever. They've just become the next dinosaur.

What will happen to 'record' shops in the future? Sure indi folk are going to move back to vinyl and CDs will become weird retro things like cassettes but what about all the other stuff? And if they are going to get rid of CDs it's surely only a matter of a few years before DVDs and Blurays are out, I mean you can download movies just as you can music.

Will there still be a place for mainstream record stores? Will CDs really completely go out? I mean we are looking at this from a pop music perspective although there is a genre of music where many of the fans don't do MP3s and also find vinyl inferior due to noise and that's the classical music fans.

Blimey I just finished reading Appetite For Self-Destruction - 'The Spectacular Demise of the Recording Industry in the Digital Age' and this is another bomb shell!

My favorite biker songs are PJ Harvey's Motorbike and Richard Thompson's 1952 Vincent Black Lightning. I can't listen to music while I ride the Honda but I hum along in my head.

Check out THE DEMONICS-that is great stuff!!!!!They have lots of biker AND surfer feeling and attitude(mid 90s).If you like it harder-the first Cicus of Power-released `88-it`s true cult for bikers.

Here's "Cycle Sounds" by the Angry Breed:

This band, the Angry Breed, are here on the Hideout, and they're into the biker image as well:

Yeah, I'd say they definately go all out for the biker image:

Shit, I know I'll think of more in due time, but this is the first one that springs to my mind... The Crestones - She's a Bad Motorcyle

The Lords Of Altamont definately:

it started as an accident but we kinda like it.

the topic of this thread is not really meant to be taken seriously. it's a jab at the music bizz problem of being in the dilemma of not wanting to give away music while still wanting to provide access to it...

do you think like this the recordings sound so bad that you lose interest?

Ugh, this is why I hate cassettes. Leave 'em in your car too long and they start sounding like that top one.

I'm not sure what the point of this topic is, though. "great way for previewing to your audience?" Huh? Maybe explain that one... cuz I'm not sure why you'd want to have a crappy recording of a song to "preview to your audience."

BTW, that second video doesn't sound bad at all.

Thank you for your generosity. I am so inspired I will take up your cause and put a little Dixie in my Country, backed by a little Glenlivet.

I've got a white phantom with white pickguard from those guys and it's wicked. Definitely recommended.

you should go to the brandoni factory man as you live in england they might have those Nos phantoms for cheep  http://brandoniguitars.co.uk/contact.asp  and while your there ask if they will ship parts to australia, i want to build a vox delta :)

dying slowly said:

the only burns ive seen our out of my range witch cant go above 800 or so and ill be saving for ages then, i would love of one of the new old stock phantoms i saw one i wanted so much recently white with white pickguard 6-string and trem!

(ps i dont like strats i find them clicheyd andi dont like the bridges and ijust prefer the tele twang)

Mina , One Rabbit Bands are musicians who are'nt men or women , but, rabbits.

NoBunny , being the best known , is actually a Jackalope (Part Rabbit , Part Antelope.).

Drum Chicken is a Rabbit (Who thinks he's a chicken.) that plays the drums .  

Mina said:

Yeah Margaret Doll Rod is cool. I almost had her perform in my town, but then the touring schedule changed or something. Too bad. 

 

WTF are one rabbit bands? :D

So true. I remember seeing Arsenio Hall interview Little Richard on TV , AND HE ASKED HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT OF 2LIVE CREW'S (Then - Recent) CONTROVERSY. To his credit , Richard did'nt seem very familiarwith the issue , but said  "Don't take your freedoms lightly. You have freedom of speech. If you want to listen to RAP , or if you want to watch PORR - NOG - RO - PHEE . That's your right ! and God gave you that right ! I may not LIKE it , but , I ain't got to BUY it !!!!".       oooh , mysoul ! my ! my ! my!

Mole said:

I guess if 'free speech' is truly free [yeah right!!], then you can't advocate censorship, however distasteful the material may be. Personally I'm not in favour of anything that actively promotes prejudice, but like, I just won't buy it or listen to it. Isn't that the point, that we have a CHOICE? Censorship is someone else's choice, not mine.