should try and get an original just keep lurkin ebay for a cheep one i got mine for 1500 in sydney australia and it's a 63-64 model 

Is that like a closet Nazi, but a little more out in the open?

swt said:

"Garage Nazis" is a scary concept. But I know what you mean.

Yeah , some of his stuff I like . Some , not so much. I heard when Randy and Spirit toured with Arthur Lee and Love in the 90's , Randy would do his obligatory rap about what great friends he and Hendrix were (I saw him do that before a stiff "Red House"). Arthur would stand in the sidelines , going "HE HATED YOU !!!".

Axel Björnsson said:

Randy California of Spirit had a bunch of wimpy guitar scales. Maby it's the cause of his jazzy background.

Good example the solo in dark eyed woman. great fucking guitarist...

....Cynics , tommorrow. Hope to see all THREE fans that I know. Malcolm should be here , but it's not his fault. Maybe they'll play his town. Maybe they'll be selling the new Nervebreakers  Get Hip reissue on 190,000 gram vinyl , as well as their own sweet ass merch. It's $5 to get in ! "Don't talk about it , all you do is...DO IT ! It's Rock'n'Roll , and the message is..DO IT ! TO IT !".        Dec 3 - Jerry Lee , Question Mark (Not in the sameplace.).

Drove five hours to Pittsburgh for the Mud City Manglers 45 release show. 

MAGNETIX & YVY, October 26th...VIVE LA FRANCE!!!! with the estimated attendance of about 40 (or less) people...shame, shame, shame on my hometown!!!

This is true , but check out "Run Devil Run" , Paul's Rockabilly / R'n'R album , with Mick Green from The Pirates on lead guitar. Even if you have'nt liked anything of his since 1970 (I still like "Ram" , that's about it.) , this is some foot - in - ass Rock 'n'Roll. Even his FANS were alienated by it ! YEAAA!!!

trashman said:

then we wouldn't have to watch Macca in his post beatles/wings/michael jackson now I will be arrogant and write orchestra pieces.

What's wrong with that...I need to know....because here I go agaaaaiiiiinnn.

Mike ,

 I've never heard a song about Las Vegas written by an English group , but , it's not inconcievable , if somebody went there , or imagined themselves there , and brought the germ of an idea home with them , such a song could happen. How convincing it would be , that would be down to the listener.....Personally , I love The Rattles' "Las Vegas" ( "LA LA LA
LA LA  , LA LA LA  LA - AUS ! AUS ! LAS VEGAS ! (From! From ! Las Vegas ?!). "Have a whiskey , have a soda !" (Have a whiskey soda ?). The song rocks , I don't care if it's not lyrically accurate. If it were , they'd say , "Enjoy it ,in 40 years , it'll be Disneyland with shitty music and magic shows everywhere!".    Then there's "Chicago" by The Phantom Brothers. The lyrics are pretty simple and to the point , not specifically about Chicago. But , it's a song by a German band , about Chicago (Which , incidentally , has a large German population.), and it's NOT a Blues number - Danke !    But , where Britain's concerned , it's flattering , sometimes exhausting , to learn how steeped in American culture (Usually that of the past.) many people , over there , really are.  And Western Europeans , Japanese , etc.  I find their fervor inspiring.
Mike Humsgreen said:

I imagine it's kind of important to remember the physical and cultural landscapes of the two countries. Many of the things that are valued in America are often seen as crass and vulgar in Britain, and just like if you compare British and American hiphop today you see a massive difference. Not only that but the physical landscape is different too; Britain doesn't have rampant gun culture, vast swathes of untouched wilderness, mythical highways etc.

And this totally comes out in the music. Sure bands have done covers of American songs but can you imagine a British band ever writing a song like Viva Las Vegas, New York, I've Been Everywhere? The Kinks sang Waterloo Sunset which touches feelings on a trainstation but singing about a city or a place in Britain with anything less than a deep dose of irony, melachony or sarcasm sounds embarrassing. It's why you don't have thousands of songs about London.

It's true , the social conditions affected the teens in America , deeply. But , some were probably saying , if they drop the bomb , let's at least say we lived it up. But , there was that period , there , where Protest and politically - themed songs were something of an after thought , or maybe for Phil Ochs and Bob Dylan , but not the Crashin' Boars playing "Empty Heart" down the street.

It's interesting , to me , at least , to note how Britain and The United States have influenced each other over the years...Even when Punk hit , The Ramones were the only American band to find much success in The UK , because everybody knew they jump - started the movement. Most of the other New York Punk bands , barring The Heartbreakers (Who even got on the "Honor System" smack withdrawal program) were'nt really acknowledged for their contributions to "Culture" , once they made it to England.

On the other hand , when Hardcore was going on , here , it was'nt considered cool to listen to bands who were'nt from The U.S.

The thought of a "monkskrieg" (Gary Burger stated , at their first reunion show , "We are a GERMAN band.") would probably make a better movie than the alleged film about their actual career (I don't mean the Documentary , I mean the proposed big bucks Hollywood film that would have been so saturated in bullshit , the band refused to have anything to do with it.) , just because it would have been like an invasion from outer space ! Like "The Way - Outs" on "The Flintstones " ! Germany , with far more Avant - Garde tendencies , barely accepted the monks , allowing them to live on the outer fringes of the Beat Boom . Though they were supposed to be granted a US release on their one Polydor LP , it's hard to imagine anyone buying it , at the time. They would have drastically undersold The Velvet Underground. Underground Radio was'nt yet up and running in 1966 , so there would'nt have been a forum for that album in the states. Even they might have been REALLY scared to touch it. But , it's fun to consider the monks literally invading their own country , at the time. At least , they lived to see the first real wave of mania surrounding them. Of course , Dave and Roger are gone , now , but , they saw it.

Bry said:

re: the start of this discussion - here's my thruppence ....

 

I tend to think the garage explosion would have still happened without the British Invasion - maybe there would even have been more garage & less 'beat' - OK so Vox introduced the vox wah wah and AC amps here .. but  there was also Lysergic acid diethylamide rampaging throughout UK  Europe & the US [although obviously that had no influence whatsoever in US music of the era ...ha ha ] ... a lot of angry young americans also had the daily nuke sirens at school / the draught / segregation & vietnam to contend with -  certainly more than enough to make pretty raw & angry young sounds... especially if you knew there was a chance that the draught meant you weren't gonna make it home again (we only had the beatles and the stones to contend with ha ha )  - OK... so  the beatles were maybe the 1st after Elvis to really nail down & utilise mass branding & marketing but i think it was just that rather than themselves  - just marketing - the youth of the world needed something to cling to pretty much in the way that Mcclaren utilised the Pistols into his blanket marketing machine onto us all in 76/77 - raw 'Punk' was already live and kickin in the US well before that - Ramones / Electric chairs / Iggy etc even goin back to good ol Alice Cooper and the spiders in the mid 60's - 'no price tag' etc ...yet there was certainly was an influence re: so called British Invasion - but i reckon it'd still have happened just the same without it . cos for example the US already had the Nitecaps 'tall cool one ' pretty damn raw [later to become The Wailers - mau mau is a classic raw track - 1961 I think without lookin ] the list is endless - there was also in Europe ...the 5 torquays who later became  the Monks - their feedback and t fuzztone experimentation led into  Uberbeat around 1965 - so a tweak here and there and it all could have been a 'german invasion' instead of the UK invasion ..strangely enough a gernman invasion but led  by the americans as the Monks were all US GI's . . . .  whatever next eh ; )

then we wouldn't have to watch Macca in his post beatles/wings/michael jackson now I will be arrogant and write orchestra pieces.

What's wrong with that...I need to know....because here I go agaaaaiiiiinnn.

I imagine it's kind of important to remember the physical and cultural landscapes of the two countries. Many of the things that are valued in America are often seen as crass and vulgar in Britain, and just like if you compare British and American hiphop today you see a massive difference. Not only that but the physical landscape is different too; Britain doesn't have rampant gun culture, vast swathes of untouched wilderness, mythical highways etc.

And this totally comes out in the music. Sure bands have done covers of American songs but can you imagine a British band ever writing a song like Viva Las Vegas, New York, I've Been Everywhere? The Kinks sang Waterloo Sunset which touches feelings on a trainstation but singing about a city or a place in Britain with anything less than a deep dose of irony, melachony or sarcasm sounds embarrassing. It's why you don't have thousands of songs about London.

Real cool moody stuff you are posting. This one is really moody even for a moody song.

‪The Grodes - I've Lost My Way‬

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp6r74vEIrQ&feature=player_embed...!

ok, well maybe some more ; I haven't been in this folder for a long time.

Barking Spyders - Hard World

The Kynds - So if someone sends you flowers, babe

The Dominions - I need her

The Starlites - Wait for Me

forgot about Mystic Eyes by the Mystic Tide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKMvA6ZbHjg

I have a folder on my machine labelled moody songs so I could keep going on but I will only do so intermittently

Lily - Drusalee & the Dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW4LBnWmJ0w

don't know how to embed

this one's soooo good

Appreciate that!

Polyvinyl Craftsmen said:

You can check out McCarthy on our podcast here, my favourite track of theirs Red Sleeping Beauty http://polyvinylcraftsmen.blogspot.com/2011/04/transmission-5.html

 

I'm going to play some of the other bands on future transmissions too. Will let you know when.

 

You can check out McCarthy on our podcast here, my favourite track of theirs Red Sleeping Beauty http://polyvinylcraftsmen.blogspot.com/2011/04/transmission-5.html

I'm going to play some of the other bands on future transmissions too. Will let you know when.

Yeah, I've got quite a bit of Long Ryders on the 'ole ipod, and like Green On Red, they could pull off country music and do it so well. I have always been meaning to check more into the Soup Dragons...Some of these others you mentioned are going on my "research" list. Thanks for your input!

Polyvinyl Craftsmen said:

I'd add The Long Ryders and a few British bands who were lumped into the C86 scene that I thought were playing in a similar vein, McCarthy, The Wolfhounds, early Primal Scream and The Loft. In fact you could probably call most of the C86 bands jangle pop - The Primitives, Tallulah Gosh, Shop Assistants, early Soup Dragons and The Chesterfields.

I'd add The Long Ryders and a few British bands who were lumped into the C86 scene that I thought were playing in a similar vein, McCarthy, The Wolfhounds, early Primal Scream and The Loft. In fact you could probably call most of the C86 bands jangle pop - The Primitives, Tallulah Gosh, Shop Assistants, early Soup Dragons and The Chesterfields.

I always liked Green On Red, especially their forays into country music and their organ laced compositions that suggests that Doors influence. I'm surprised I don't have more by Chris Stamey, the db's, the Connells, and Let's Active, since they're regional acts in regards to geographics (I'm in VA, they're all based out of NC). I really liked the Bangles earlier work, when they were known as the Bangs, and I think the Three O' Clock was the only "white pop" band that Prince signed to his Paisley Print record label. Coincidentally, he wrote "Manic Monday" for the Bangles (not a favorite of theirs by any means). Thanks for listing these, I'm making notes to track down more by them, and making a note to gather more by the bands I was already familiar with!

The Lizardmen said:

Jangle Pop:

Let's Active

The Windbreakers

The Bongos

The dB's

Chris Stamey

Bobby Sutliffe

Tim Lee

The Connells

Don Dixon

Green On Red

The Swimming Pool Q's

Right As Rain

Arms Akimbo

The Nightporters

Miracle Legion

Winter Hours

The Primitons

 

Paisley Underground:

The Three O'Clock

Rain Parade

The Bangles

Dream So Real

Jangle Pop:

Let's Active

The Windbreakers

The Bongos

The dB's

Chris Stamey

Bobby Sutliffe

Tim Lee

The Connells

Don Dixon

Green On Red

The Swimming Pool Q's

Right As Rain

Arms Akimbo

The Nightporters

Miracle Legion

Winter Hours

The Primitons

Paisley Underground:

The Three O'Clock

Rain Parade

The Bangles

Dream So Real

Live we use a black Fender Telecaster plugged to a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, through a Boss Blues Driver and a MXR Micro Amp, a black Rickenbacker 360/6 plugged to a Vox AC15 through a Frantone Peachfuzz and a Roger Mayer Concorde+ treble booster, and a P-bass copy that nobody knows what make it is, apart from the bass player!

At the studio we use whatever lies around, such as a 68 Fender Bandmaster, a Frankensteined Strat and an assortment of pedals.

I think this attitude that music can be compared to something like food is wrong. I believe that artists should be paid, but this focus always on pop music is out of date. I mean supporting emerging artists is important but is EMI really the best company to do that? I think smaller labels are the future and 'stealing' tracks from a multinational with teams of lawyers to make sure both the artist and the customer don't step out of line is about as morally dubious as stealling cigaretts from Malbro.

What Townshend is complaining about creativity not being valued anymore is rubbish. We are just getting closer to the real price. Why should a rock star be worth millions for being creative? Would Townshend have been any less creative if he got paid a third of what he earnt? It's the same bullshit you see in sport with footballers getting paid millions to do something the enjoy.

With the disintegration of major record labels we can at least be certain that in 30 years time we wont have as many rusty old millionairs whinging about not being paid enough. Good music doesn't need loads of cash to be made and thankfully today it doesn't need loads to be distributed.

What they didn,t mention was that the BBC will slash 280 jobs at 40 stations, and they had a debate on the (death of local radio).

I Was there in spirit, and I met Mr Lowry. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Digital switchover 2015.

Copyright laws being fixed to coincide.

Whatever happened to advances from record companies.Seen it done and seen it blown!

Peel was great>

itunes----------Dont use it.

Too many gadgets.

CDs killed the music industry.(indestructable)

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