Hey , Mike. You might be thinking of "Hated in The Nation" , which was a ROIR cassette comp of various studio recordings , inc. the ones with Wayne Kramer and Dennis Thompson - or some of 'em - and the very Bubblegum Punk of "Gimme Some Head"  which I thought WAS the guys from The MC5 , but I guess was J. Mascis on Kramer-ish guitar - all spliced together with aggravated stage banter from the "Legendary" Twilite Room , Dallas 1985 show ( Which I was at.). It was later released on vinyl , and probably CD.

Retraction : Maybe you mean one of a few reissues of his first album , "Always is , Always Was , and Always Shall Be". I had a chance to buy it once , when Allin was virtually unknown beyond The East Coast. It is , as others , here , noted , truly innocent compared to what he put out in later years. I thought he LOOKED too innocent to be this monster I'd read a little bit about in Trouser Press....Little did I know...that , and the fact I could probably ask three figures for it , today , if I had bought it , then.

Mike said:

Only saw GG once. Way late. Maybe early to mid 90's up in San Francisco. I wasn't impressed. Just watched him do his poo thing and chase people around the club. Musically, it was boring and pretty generic sounding. With that said, I do like the two singles I have - 'Gimme Some Head' & 'No Rules' which it seems alot of people I know don't like. There was a CD that came out around '99/2000 that had most of his early stuff on it. i really liked it but can't find it now. Anyone know what it was called?

are you talking about they have already cover it or you like to hear them cover it? (don't find it on youtube)

"Die When You Die" is a good song, but I'd to hear The Raveonettes cover it with more menace and at a slower tempo. "Expose Yourself To Kids" is pure gonzo comedy at its most fuckwitted.

Axel Björnsson said:

I love "Die When You Die"

I love "Die When You Die"

 I don't think it's "Dead" , but , since Honeyboy Edwards passed , about a month ago , I DO feel The Blues is dead. Had a good run . I live in Chicago , where anything that has nothing to do with The Blues gets passed off as the real deal. Some people get close to it , but Honeyboy , and this is just my opinion , was the last of the greats.

As far as Punk Blues is concerned , I think it still has some life left in it , tho' I'm not crazy about some of the things I've heard.....Tijuana Hercules , who've been based in Chicago for at least 10 or 12 years , still play out on occasion , and they've got it. They are the missing link to that Axis of Evil - Howlin' Wolf , Captain Beefheart , Jim Dandy and even Tom Waits (To some degree.).  In the 80's ,I was wondering when someone was going to make the connection between Punk and Blues.

I did'nt know , yet , that Msr. Jeffrey Evans and The Gories , the primary founders of this stuff ( Along with Jack O' Fire , a little later.) , were just around the corner , or , to be fair , that Hound Dog Taylor was "Punk Blues" 25 years before people started talking about it.... 

Punk Blues Dead!!!! Damn Kopper, I guess the timing of the show was bad...send me your punk blues boys and girls..lets keep this shit going

Eric Burdon and The Animals was an another setup of a band.. my favourite record is winds of change if you haven't heard that one.. He so friggin good singer..

Maybe not exactly like Animals but british(irish/scottish??) Marmalade has some very good tunes

The Wheels were Them's buddies in the Belfast scene. But they only released one 7"

and finally Mirage were really nice freakbeat-rockin stuff. they covered Tomorow Never Knows very well..

=)

No, both the Weeds and Lollipop Shoppe are '60s bands. Not sure which one you looked up on Wikipedia for that bit of (incorrect) info, but I wouldn't rely on it that much.

Fred Cole, who was in both those bands, is still active these days. He and his wife, Toody, were in Dead Moon and have a band called the Pierced Arrows these days. Very cool, unique bands. Not for everybody, though.

rockhousesally said:

Thanks for the video. I just looked them up on Wikipedia and was shocked to see that they came out in 1986! That sound is so typical of the 60's though. Very cool that they could capture that feeling :) thanks...

stiv rippengal said:

would the weeds/lollipop shoppe fall into this category?? regardless, they are awesome...was going to try putting a video in but dunno how to, check them out anyway if you haven't heard them!

Click the "Media" button (third one from the left) when you go to post your message and paste in the embed code from YouTube or wherever.

stiv rippengal said:

would the weeds/lollipop shoppe fall into this category?? regardless, they are awesome...was going to try putting a video in but dunno how to, check them out anyway if you haven't heard them!

Ey Marty,

quite the other way around, in the way that some great french Comic artists are making some great new covers for Rock'n'Roll records: Here's a show the comicartist BARU put together, the video's in german but you can get a look at the covers and the music is there too.

Here's the article on french - Including pictures.

The VIDEO won't embed, so here's the link:

stronger than dirt.... the mummies....

I think it is no way to rock harder...

We always open our set with one of our own instrumentals. We only play one cover song per show, and it's always the last song we play. Each show we try to go with a different song, usually a '60s garage track like The Sorrows "No No No No" or 13th Floor Elevators "You're Gonna Miss Me."

not "garage rock" per se, but how about covering this one?

Thee Manipulators!

Besides the other mentioned this year i like the s/t Night Beats and Davila 666 Tan Bajo.

I'm owner of an Ashbass Fuzzbrite (for more than four years) and I'm absolutely happy and love its sound. I didn't try any other than a Big Muff with my gear, though.

The customer support sucked at its time, when it came it didn't work and I had to fix it. It was a welding (and it meant 30 € extra). They never answered.

Mosrite Fuzzrite vs Ashbass Fuzzbrite on Youtube (lots of tests there)

PD: BTW, not really a musician, just a chord bad player but a fan.

Hey Dave, you'd have to ask Rob Wright from NoMeansNo, I'm not him!  Cheers, Rob

dave machine said:

Garage sure isn't trendy in northern British Columbia, which is why bands can't be dangerous up here. It's hard enough getting gigs at the northern folk festivals (and we do like playing them, it's all we have, plus it's a good way to get in free to a three day party). Bands are thrown out for being too rock and roll, sad but true. So no swearing at the audience or spitting whiskey on them - just ask a band called the Turncoats about their Kispiox experience.

I'm curious to know how NoMeansNo did at Atlin or Dawson City a couple years back? (sorry I didn't make it, it's still two days driving north of here) I used to love seeing NoMeansNo and never felt in danger near the stage. Moshing used to be a lot less violent than it is now, and it was fun. Rock and roll should be fun. I totally agree that passion and energy are often lacking, and are a requirement. But after our first gig a few years ago where we almost got into fights with local rednecks at the local pub, we decided that isn't the way to go for rockers in their 30s and 40s. Passion and energy can just mean a good fucking time is had by all.

OK. Live rehearsal; sounds like you'll probably need to treat that room.. especially in the immediate vicinity of your drum set.  This will undoubtedly tame those high frequencies, and maybe save you the expense of a new set of cymbals ;)...

You might also ease up on distortion levels on both guitar and (especially!) vocals... this can always be applied afterwards – in a more "controlled" manner.

Also: try isolating drums-guitar-vocals as best you can when recording live... build some "goboes", use carpets across backs of chairs, hang up blankets – whatever you can think of that might help separate the three... 

:) If you could give me some more info on your session set-up I could probably be more specific.

e.

stiv rippengal said:

the cymbals i have are sabian xs20, which i was led to believe were reasonably good, they have been bashed about a bit so you never know, may finally be time to cough up and get some new ones!

as you said, as a live rehearsal recording the sound was alright, but for anything more than a demo we were thinking of trying to be a little more 'pro' (not the right word at all but i guess you know what i mean...)

dublÉ said:

Not necessarily just a placement issue!.. crap cymbals can be a pain to sort out in a mix, so a better set might be a good investment.

e

stiv rippengal said:

haha yeah i suppose so...it's mainly the cymbals that are all just turning into a mush but i guess that's all down to mic positioning?? won't be going 'hi fi' any time soon though lol

Not necessarily just a placement issue!.. crap cymbals can be a pain to sort out in a mix, so a better set might be a good investment.

e

stiv rippengal said:

haha yeah i suppose so...it's mainly the cymbals that are all just turning into a mush but i guess that's all down to mic positioning?? won't be going 'hi fi' any time soon though lol

Off the bat I would have to say that this sounds very much like a recorded rehearsal, and as such it doesn't sound half bad! :)...  Anyway: In general, muddiness will indicate that you want less of something (certain frequencies, compression, and so on...) but it would be helpful to have some session details... i.e. how many tracks, recording equipment, microphone placement on drums, any effects, etc. etc.... 

Without this information it's hard to say if there is a fix or if you have to do another take.

e

Why do you want it to sound less muddy?

Isn't that the whole point of a two piece band?

hey there, would any of you guys with recording experience be able to clue me up on the best way to make this -

http://soundcloud.com/sonbelly

- sound a little less muddy??

i imagine i'd be a) don't play as loud, b) buy better mics etc, but thought i'd ask anyways...look forward to hearing any feedback!

If anyone/ group of people is coming into town for this event and is looking for a cheaper alternative to a hotel- please consider my Bed & Breakfast

http://www.theisabellaatditmaspark.com/

It's about a 10 minute drive to the Bell House on the other side of Prospect Park. We are opening in Mid-October.