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    • September 18, 2011 1:29 PM CDT
    •  michelle,

          a thoughtful considered opinion has no place here! you will ruin everything for the rest of us!!

        
      Michelle Magnero said:

      Just spent 15 minutes writing my post and it got deleted, so I don't know how this one will turn out but I will try...Ok, so first of all I think a couple of the bands are slightly popular/ trendy, but not the genre. Most of the people I know either do not like it or don't know who the bands are. When I think about why it is that a couple/handful of the bands have managed to cross over into the mainstream my two favorite examples to use are White Stripes and Black Lips, both of whom have been discussed elsewhere on this board. If you think about each of these bands and how/why they got popular (and also take into consideration that we are talking about two different time periods here- WS in 2000/ early 2000's and BL in the later part of the decade) one thing that becomes obvious to me is that they both became successful because of some kind of branding or selling of a concept, none of which, if you really think about it, has anything to do with the music they are playing. (Some of you on here may be able to think of things such as the equipment they use or build, etc., that connects the image to the sound,  but remember that you already have a background knowledge about this that the general public does not, thus they probably won't consider it.) So with BL, think about how back before they were on Vice the garage community seemed a little stand-offish against them (even when they were on ITR). Well partly I think the reason for this may have been because they were so young and looked a little hipster-ish. (And also the fact that they have admitted in their interviews that in the old days they didn't even really know how to play and just relied on shock value at their shows.)So once they landed on Vice the kids went, oh, they look edgy or whatever, let's listen to this. With WS, ten years ago: WS was a buzz band, people thought it was cute. They thought all those bands from Sweden were cute. THEY WERE NOT. (Sorry Swedish GRH members.) Someone brought up the example of Oblivians and I think it is a great one, so I will use it again: These kids that like BL are not going to look at old Oblivians LPs and go, they look cool, I think I will listen to this- because they don't know the TIME PERIOD or the GENRE. And they don't care about it. Two more quick things then I will shut up- 1. The Mummies: for whatever reason for quite a long time it has seemed to me that if someone only knew one garage band, it was the Mummies. Usually these people were hipsters. If I think about another band a lot of people know, you have Man or Astroman. They are so big that people who like this band and do not like primarily garage refuse to acknowledge that they are a garage rock band. My suspicion is that it is because they don't know enough about the genre to know that MoA plays a sub-genre of garage. 2. Blaine: No we are not cool, for me what liking garage means is that people think you are weird and that your music sucks/ all sounds the same :)

    • September 18, 2011 1:19 PM CDT
    • Just spent 15 minutes writing my post and it got deleted, so I don't know how this one will turn out but I will try...Ok, so first of all I think a couple of the bands are slightly popular/ trendy, but not the genre. Most of the people I know either do not like it or don't know who the bands are. When I think about why it is that a couple/handful of the bands have managed to cross over into the mainstream my two favorite examples to use are White Stripes and Black Lips, both of whom have been discussed elsewhere on this board. If you think about each of these bands and how/why they got popular (and also take into consideration that we are talking about two different time periods here- WS in 2000/ early 2000's and BL in the later part of the decade) one thing that becomes obvious to me is that they both became successful because of some kind of branding or selling of a concept, none of which, if you really think about it, has anything to do with the music they are playing. (Some of you on here may be able to think of things such as the equipment they use or build, etc., that connects the image to the sound,  but remember that you already have a background knowledge about this that the general public does not, thus they probably won't consider it.) So with BL, think about how back before they were on Vice the garage community seemed a little stand-offish against them (even when they were on ITR). Well partly I think the reason for this may have been because they were so young and looked a little hipster-ish. (And also the fact that they have admitted in their interviews that in the old days they didn't even really know how to play and just relied on shock value at their shows.)So once they landed on Vice the kids went, oh, they look edgy or whatever, let's listen to this. With WS, ten years ago: WS was a buzz band, people thought it was cute. They thought all those bands from Sweden were cute. THEY WERE NOT. (Sorry Swedish GRH members.) Someone brought up the example of Oblivians and I think it is a great one, so I will use it again: These kids that like BL are not going to look at old Oblivians LPs and go, they look cool, I think I will listen to this- because they don't know the TIME PERIOD or the GENRE. And they don't care about it. Two more quick things then I will shut up- 1. The Mummies: for whatever reason for quite a long time it has seemed to me that if someone only knew one garage band, it was the Mummies. Usually these people were hipsters. If I think about another band a lot of people know, you have Man or Astroman. They are so big that people who like this band and do not like primarily garage refuse to acknowledge that they are a garage rock band. My suspicion is that it is because they don't know enough about the genre to know that MoA plays a sub-genre of garage. 2. Blaine: No we are not cool, for me what liking garage means is that people think you are weird and that your music sucks/ all sounds the same :)

    • September 18, 2011 1:19 PM CDT
    • tell us where we can go if our little cool club is ruined? and be quick about it. the fucking roof just blew off!

    • September 18, 2011 12:33 PM CDT
    • Most of these posts read like elite assholes.  Annoyed because people don't know as much about music as you do?  That's childish.  I hope, out of spite, garage becomes more mainstream and ruins your little cool club.

    • September 19, 2011 6:32 AM CDT
    • Man or Astroman's cover of The Rezillos "Destination Venus"

       

      The original is so great I can't think of anyone who could improve on it.

       

      I do like Man or Astroman a lot, apart from that cover.

    • September 18, 2011 10:32 AM CDT
    • Oh fuck yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like some disease at KDHX. And I hate it when bands play "ironic" covers of shit songs.

    • September 17, 2011 4:51 PM CDT
    • I hate Bratmobile's covers of "Cherry Bomb" by the Runaways and "Where Eagles Dare" by the Misfits,

      Green Day's covers of "I Wanna Be On TV" by Fang, "Tired of Waiting for You" by the Kinks, and "Knowledge" by Operation Ivy,

      Sublime's covers of "Hope" and "I'm Not a Loser" by Descendents, "Youth Are Getting Restless" by Bad Brains,

      and Slightly Stoopid's cover of "I Couldn't Get HIgh" by the Fugs.

      I actually like Mudhoney's cover of "Hate the Police," but not as much as the original. I don't like Mudhoney's covers of Thee Mighty Caesars' "She's Only 15" and "You Make Me Die" though. I don't think I've heard a single good cover of a Billy Childish song.

    • September 18, 2011 11:51 PM CDT
    • I know this is probably a long shot, but here goes. About 20-ish years ago I found a mix-tape in my car with a lot of great hardcore from the mid to late 80's. There was no insert so I had know way of knowing who these bands were, but I played that fucker to death. Also, none of my friends claimed it, so, for all I know, it was in the car when I bought it. There is one song in particular that I would love to know who the band is. The words in the chorus are, "I'd make you understand if I could, only dreams remain where I stood." Can anyone help me solve this mystery?

    • September 18, 2011 6:06 PM CDT
    • Read johnnys book,::: No Irish No blacks No Dogs :::

      tells ya all about it.

    • September 18, 2011 4:45 PM CDT
    • Jaime Hernandez did a cover for The Makers and Sam Kieth did one for the Groovin' Ghoulies

       

    • September 17, 2011 4:54 PM CDT
    • I can't think of any garage/punk songs that reference underground comix. I wish I knew of some...

    • September 18, 2011 2:42 AM CDT
    • any one know what the fuzz 1313 mockingbird lane used (the late 8os garage band not the house) also the rest of the guitar set up much apreciated

    • September 17, 2011 5:00 PM CDT
    • Just don't make music with the sole intention of making money.

    • September 17, 2011 8:27 AM CDT
    • Bald Bill - Not to start a big issue but I'm wondering if, even we agree that he pretends, is it so bad tha the at least brings the plight of various people to the forefront? Just as point of discussion.

      As for my opinion I love the concept of Bruce. He is a fantastic songwriter for the most part, I love the track he did with Mike Ness, and I do think he started humbly and can we blame him for superstardom? Especially since he never sought to reclaim or cash in on Born in the USA. Plus the man may charge a ton for his shows but he PLAYS! He runs around and goes for 3 or 4 hours. You get a fair showing for the money unlike most other massive bands. When was the last time you saw him in a tabloid or endorsing a shit product? 

       

      That said, I can only listen to so much Bruce before I really have to switch the record. 

       

    • September 16, 2011 9:02 PM CDT
    • How will the struggling immigrant workers scraping by in the 23rd-century carbonate mines on Mars afford to go to a stadium & pay $$$ - $$$$ while he pretends he's performing for the working class?

    • September 17, 2011 12:01 PM CDT
    • Wish they'd come this way. I saw Shonen Knife back in the '90s at a Lollapalooza in Phoenix. That Ramones tribute sounds fun

       

    • September 17, 2011 11:24 AM CDT
    • The Brand new "RED"  VOX AC-15 owned by Kenny Wessel of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang!

    • September 17, 2011 3:24 AM CDT
    • To get us back to Popeye, I thought I looked more like this:  But with grayer hair.

       

      Switzerland? I thought Beat-Man's true identity was Jerry J. Nixon, a communist rockabilly from Santa Fe.

    • September 17, 2011 12:04 AM CDT
    • Steve, has anybody ever told you you look like that "Mark" guy from the Clark County Museum who's on that "Pawn Stars" show quite a bit?

    • September 16, 2011 11:19 PM CDT
    • Steve, I'm pretty damn jealous. I contemplated drving the 12 hours to see him in TN last summer, but settled on mail ordering a belt-buckle instead. I wear it everyday with pride...but this trumps it! And you are the one who turned me on to VR

    • September 17, 2011 1:06 AM CDT
    • Show #341: "The Eggman Collection #102" playlist:

      High Tide - "The Joke"
      Los Vidrios Quebrados - "Inside Your Eyes"
      Elvis Presley - "My Baby Left Me"
      Sandy Salisbury - "Measure Of A Man"
      Bubble Puppy - "Todd's Tune"
      White Lining - "Back In The Sun"
      Cem Karaca - "Tatli Dillim"
      Sparks - "This Town Ain't Big Enough For The Both Of Us"
      Manfred Mann - "Cubist Town"
      Ultimate Spinach - "Suite: Genesis Of Beauty (In Four Parts)"
      Jody Grind - "Vegetable Oblivion"
      The Hollies - "Tell Me To My Face"
      Simon & Garfunkel - "He Was My Brother"
      The Byrds - "Triad"
      The Ventures - "Psychedelic Venture"
      The Statesiders - "Patterened The Same"
      The Mirage - "Ebaneezer Beaver"
      Sun Lightning Incorporated - "Quasar 45"
      The dB's - "From A Window To A Screen"
      The Deviants - "Billy The Monster"
      Diane Hildebrand - "Come Looking For Me"
      The Buckinghams - "This Is How Much I Love You"
      The Yardbirds - "Knowing That I'm Losing You"
      Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Redemption Song"-
      Led Zeppelin - "How Many More Times"
      Adrian Pride - "Her Name Is Melody"
      Grapefruit - "Elevator"
      John Cale - "Big White Cloud"
      The Monkees - "Take A Giant Step"
      Fickle Pickle - "Millionaire"
      The Beatles - "Julia"
      Those Guys - "Lookin’ At You Behind The Glasses"
      Ekseption - "Ave Maria"
      The Unclaimed - "Memories Of Green Eyes"
      The Guess Who - "Share The Land"
      Donovan - "People Used To"
      The Briks - "Can You See Me"
      Blops - "Piromano"
      David Hemmings - "Bell Birds"
      Doctors Of Madness - "Afterglow/Mitzi’s Cure/I Think We’re Alone/Waiting"

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    • September 16, 2011 7:31 PM CDT
    • Thanx for all the info Craig!!!