I GUESS i MISSED MY MARK....WHAT I MEANT WAS , HOLE WAS THIS CLOSE TO BEING....UM ....A RIOT GRRRRRL BAND . CHOSING TO PLAY BADLY. i DON'T TOTALLY HATE ALL THAT STUFF , BUT , AS LUTZ VIPINDERWOMAN POINTED OUT , Poly Styrene was truly innovative, she took on the Punk Rock Boy's club and won. There were others , Siouxzzzzzzzzz , Pauline Murray (Penetration) , Gaye Advert , and the lovely Fay Fife (AND , BY THAT , I MEAN , SHE'S JUST A LOVELY PERSON), and in America , Patti Smith , Poison Ivy , Lydia Lunch , Exene , Alice Bag , Penelope Houston and many others. But Courtney and Hole never went though what these bands had to endure. Anyone ever hear Hole's first EP ? MAN , IT'S GODAWFUL. I certainly dont think Courtney pretends to be a feminist , but ,she must not be listening to her own music , or she'd know how bad it is......IT'S LIKE Chris Horne , from the late , great Brood , told me ,"They put us on bills with other female bands , but , that does'nt always work......It's like , these bands that put being women , first , over their music , you can't listen to them , they're that bad.".
After Curt died , it seemed like Hole was doing Nirvana retreads. Maybe they always were.
Nirvana was the band to co - opt in the 90's , just as REM were the same thing in the 80's.
Maybe Courtney is'nt putting her gender first , but sh edoes'nt know the first thing about Rock'n'ROLL. eVEN IF REAL Rock 'n'Roll with fat saxes is'nt your preference , you're only talking out of your ass when you make a statement like "Saxophones don't belong in Rock'n'Roll" . Big Jay Mcneeley is in his 80's, and so is Dave "Bubba" Mitchell , from Milt TRENIER'S BAND. They still know how to put on a SHOW. Do you think Courtbey cares about that?
To her , it's all about being a trainwreck in the public eye. Who cares ?