In terms of anything recorded by the Ventures after 1967, I understand your meaning of cheesy. It's not goofy fun, it's goofy stupid. Especially the 10th Anniversary album. The album title itself is deceiving. You were probably expecting all their great songs covering a 10 year time span and you get crap. But I wouldn't describe them or the Trashmen as cheesy. It may not be pounding to the skull stuff but it's not your typical for 1960-64 top 40 either. if anything is cheesy, it's those Frankie, Bobby, and Johnny (no, not Cash. He's great) songs. Or those girl singles sung by teen age actresses trying to make it as third rate Leslie Gores. Yeah, I wouldn't confuse clean professionalism as cheesiness, though. Cyco Sanchez said:

But I have to ask one more thing, without opening another thread: What is this thing about The Ventures? I really love their early stuff, but then I bought this 10th anniversary album and was shocked. It IS cheesy, or am I also wrong in this case?

Actually, this really isn't a compilation. It's the first album with 4 bonus tracks. But I haven't got it (and unfortunately I don't have that box set either), but I can guess what they sound like if they were recorded at the same time. FREDDI said:

Here's one of the Trashmen classics compilations from Sundazed Records and a basic point to begin:

Ah, ok, the word "cheesy" may be the wrong expression, I'm not a native speaker, so sorry about that. What I mean with "cheesy" is when bands or songs miss that special thing that makes them, you know, cool or something. When they sound that touch too sweet, too harmless or smooth maybe. I really love big melodies, big pop and big "kitsch", but by "cheesy" I mean when it's a bit too harmless. Like, The Sparks aren't cheesy, but ABBA is. I hope I could explain what I mean.

I guess it has a lot to do with being used to more modern sounds, but I'd apply the word "cheesy" in much more to modern sounds than to vintage sounds.

Oh dear, what have I done here???


And I didn't want to compare The Ventures with The Trashmen musically, they sound pretty different from each other.

I mean, honestly, who gives a flying fuck?

PLAY SOME FREEBIRD MANG!

Can we keep this forum focus on GARAGEPUNK?

If someone mentions Free Bird I'm gonna go postal!

Lynyrd Skynyrd ate my dynyr.

Van Zant looks like his brother and his voice is pretty similar.Are they as good as lynyrd were,are they any good at all?

listening to SAVAGE KICK #5 today. Kopper played the Snics "have will will travel"....Gerry Roslie owns it...just close the fucking thread down!

well, she's not rock and roll exactly, but diamanda galas scares the hell out of me

Iggy at all the funhouse songs.In la blues especially where he does like o bobcat or something.

The female backup screamers on Ralph Nielson and the Chancellors...'Scream'....not only volume, but she (or they) just keep screaming and screaming and screaming....

oh, I think Smashmouth are pretty horrid too! Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I think that Smashmouth version of I Can't Get Enough of you Baby is pretty horrid.

oh my god! dance version of "pushin to hard"! I want to die! S.Law said:

I was in a gay leather bar many years ago and there was a techo dance version of "pushin' too hard". no clue who did it, but more funny than bad.

45 Grave's "black cross" as covered by the red hot chilli peppers is something I never want to hear again.

moby's cover of MISSION OF BURMA's "that's when I reach for my revolver", redone as "that's when I realize it's over" has to be the worst, no balls.

blank 77-any Ramones cover. saw them open for ANTI-NOWHERE LEAGUE, terrible. half their set consisted of RAMONES songs(I don't think anybody at this point should be covering "blitzkrieg bop"). all washed out and stale. blank 77 is typical "punk by the numbers" even on record.

Ramones 1st self titled album circa 1976! Listened to that over and over again, although quite a few years after the initial release. At the time, I was pretty into the clash's first album though.

sorry dude, i know that was YOUR list, never meant to intrude. only mentioning a couple bands, which in MY opinion were quite influential, and have otherwise been pretty overlooked in all the above very FORMULAIC lists. sorry again!! Gringo Starr said:

These are my favorite ALBUMS from the "First Punk Era" (which is really the second punk era) not yours. I was really thinking about the BEST shit. There is a lot of music from this time to choose from but my list includes only the most influential albums (in my opinion) from that time frame. Thank you, goodbye.

Johnny Quid said:

i must repeat again: no Eater? what about Johnny Moped? surely the Nipple Erectors...

These are my favorite ALBUMS from the "First Punk Era" (which is really the second punk era) not yours. I was really thinking about the BEST shit. There is a lot of music from this time to choose from but my list includes only the most influential albums (in my opinion) from that time frame. Thank you, goodbye. Johnny Quid said:

i must repeat again: no Eater? what about Johnny Moped? surely the Nipple Erectors...

i must repeat again: no Eater? what about Johnny Moped? surely the Nipple Erectors...

Damn! Someone reminded me of that two years ago and I forgot to include it again!! Yes. Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts 1978 I'm sure I will post the full list again on the next page with the above addition. Thank you. The Desperate Twisters said:

Sorry, I'm really allergic to Patti Smith !!!

But I love insanity !!!

And I still believe that "Crossing the red sea with The Adverts" should be in your (great) list Gring !

@Joanie : "Concrete" by 999 is pretty cool too. Less"punk",if that means something, than the first 2 records but it's probably my favorite LP from 999.

Sorry, I'm really allergic to Patti Smith !!!

But I love insanity !!!

And I still believe that "Crossing the red sea with The Adverts" should be in your (great) list Gring !

@Joanie : "Concrete" by 999 is pretty cool too. Less"punk",if that means something, than the first 2 records but it's probably my favorite LP from 999.

Eeegads!! Now there's a post about Lynyrd Skynyrd! Push the Red Panic Button NOW, Kopper!!!!! kopper said:

Hell, look at the discussion threads on this forum lately... Oasis? The Lemonheads? Courtney Love? C'mon, can't we do better than that? This is GaragePunk.com... not AltRock.com.

Ryan Katastrophe said:

I don't intentionally try to hip the unconverted anymore, although I'm sure I do subconsciously. I schill my podcast on Facebook and Twitter where probably less than a third of the people I'm friends with give a shit. I DJ at a bar every now and again where, I'd imagine, very few of the patrons listen to this music regularly. The folks who work at the bar seem to enjoy it though and I do get a few compliments each time I spin. I think you just have to have it in you to dig this kind of stuff. Let's face it, the world ain't round, it's square.

We're talking about sermonizing. I didn't care how the flock got to me or how they wanted to be fleeced. Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Ha ha...that was pretty good ...CSI.

S.Law said:

"uh this one got that CSI song onnit?"



Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Y'sure about that? What if the person is an idiot and buying it for Pinball Wizard

haha...bet fred durst bought meaty beaty too!

so....who's up for talking about this week's American Idol?

Wasn't King Louie the keyboardist?

Garagepunk flying saucer rock n roll podcast.