Fuck lo-fi. It's over rated. What the hell is so great about sounding like you recorded over the phone into an answering machine? I love the Mummies and Supercharger just as much as anybody but each new release sounded worse than the one before it. While I don't like BIG drums, I can't stand drums that sound like they're being recorded through the floorboards either. People think that the Kingsmen are lo-fi but it's the same damn equipment that the Raiders recorded on. It's a matter of mic placement and how loud the intake is. A little bit of over modulation wouldn't hurt the Wicked Cool records but sounding like the Brentwoods (the playing is fine...I'm talking about fidelity) would just suck. OCEAN PALACE said:

he deffo got some mint bands on his label, the woggles are pretty dam quaility and like you say the chesterfield kings.
and i might be wrong but i think the len price 3 also on his label? i like them also. but there is still something a bit odd, like they not exactly lo-fi,
all sound pretty clean. not a bad thing perhaps for some but i dunno id like it abit dirtier...



MikeL said:

Doing it the corporate way can also mean things are done more efficiently, and the product reaches a wider audience. Just as long as Renegade Nation doesn't turn into the Goldman Sachs of garage rock, I'm happy.

The kind of corporate approach I meant was that everything has to be run by him first including whatever you record in a studio. As if he doesn't trust a band's judgement on what is a good song and what is bad. Lots of bands do record awful things, but you'd think that what got you on Steven's label in the first place was that you had a sense of quality. Boss Martians just landed on the label and this is the first time that Evan Foster hasn't had 100 % control over what songs get on the album. Granted, it is Wicked Cool's money but still, we hated it when Don Kirshner did it but it's OK for Steven? Most of the labels turn down a whole entire album (Estrus for instance) before they'd make you lose a song. Not that they wouldn't turn down an entire album because they hated one song, I'm just saying that most indie labels let bands have quality control. The only record labels that are like Goldman Sachs are labels like Jive, Number one records that are going to implode and lose in the long run. I wish independents could do things a bit more efficently but I do prefer bands having 100% over context. MikeL said:

Doing it the corporate way can also mean things are done more efficiently, and the product reaches a wider audience. Just as long as Renegade Nation doesn't turn into the Goldman Sachs of garage rock, I'm happy:)


Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

My belief (by the way, belief is a possession, believe is a verb) is that Little Steven gets a lot of people who would never had been a fan of garage rock into becoming a believer.

While a found out this month that he does take a bit of a corporate (nazi?) approach to his label and song lists (all songs recorded by bands on Wicked Cool have to be approved before being released and hosts of the sattalite shows like Manfred from the Woggles HAVE to play songs that are approved by Steven), the people who work for him and the bands are still happy, unlike people who work for Universal or Clear(?).

While I don't care for the corporate approach, if the bands don't mind, it's all good.

Doing it the corporate way can also mean things are done more efficiently, and the product reaches a wider audience. Just as long as Renegade Nation doesn't turn into the Goldman Sachs of garage rock, I'm happy:) Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

My belief (by the way, belief is a possession, believe is a verb) is that Little Steven gets a lot of people who would never had been a fan of garage rock into becoming a believer.

While a found out this month that he does take a bit of a corporate (nazi?) approach to his label and song lists (all songs recorded by bands on Wicked Cool have to be approved before being released and hosts of the sattalite shows like Manfred from the Woggles HAVE to play songs that are approved by Steven), the people who work for him and the bands are still happy, unlike people who work for Universal or Clear(?).

While I don't care for the corporate approach, if the bands don't mind, it's all good.

My belief (by the way, belief is a possession, believe is a verb) is that Little Steven gets a lot of people who would never had been a fan of garage rock into becoming a believer.

While a found out this month that he does take a bit of a corporate (nazi?) approach to his label and song lists (all songs recorded by bands on Wicked Cool have to be approved before being released and hosts of the sattalite shows like Manfred from the Woggles HAVE to play songs that are approved by Steven), the people who work for him and the bands are still happy, unlike people who work for Universal or Clear(?).

While I don't care for the corporate approach, if the bands don't mind, it's all good.

I believe you meant to write "gotcha," right? And quite honestly, I don't care if the vast majority of garage rock fans don't like Springsteen. While I still like him, I've always felt he's extremely overrated and way too much of a sacred cow to critics. However, I do like what Little Steven does for garage rock, even if it's not pure enough for some people, so that's what I'm really getting at in this discussion. And he does play bands that are revered by the purists, so at least he's doing something right. todd a williams said:

gotha mike; i'll try not to like the chesterfield kings or the cynics.
i stand by my assertion; if you think prized springsteen tix are appropriate for the vast majority of garage rock fans then you are onto something i am not aware of.

MikeL said:

Nobody invited you to the concert anyway. And if Little Steven is so out of touch, then that means you can't listen to anything he plays, including bands that you like. If you're a fan of the Chesterfield Kings, then you can't like them anymore because they're on his label. And you can't like the Cynics anymore either, since he liked them enough to play them on his radio show in the early days (Before he and Gregg had their school yard spat).

todd a williams said:

the last thing i need is some springstein tix. man, that little steven is outta touch!

gotha mike; i'll try not to like the chesterfield kings or the cynics. i stand by my assertion; if you think prized springsteen tix are appropriate for the vast majority of garage rock fans then you are onto something i am not aware of. MikeL said:

Nobody invited you to the concert anyway. And if Little Steven is so out of touch, then that means you can't listen to anything he plays, including bands that you like. If you're a fan of the Chesterfield Kings, then you can't like them anymore because they're on his label. And you can't like the Cynics anymore either, since he liked them enough to play them on his radio show in the early days (Before he and Gregg had their school yard spat).

todd a williams said:

the last thing i need is some springstein tix. man, that little steven is outta touch!

Nobody invited you to the concert anyway. And if Little Steven is so out of touch, then that means you can't listen to anything he plays, including bands that you like. If you're a fan of the Chesterfield Kings, then you can't like them anymore because they're on his label. And you can't like the Cynics anymore either, since he liked them enough to play them on his radio show in the early days (Before he and Gregg had their school yard spat). todd a williams said:

the last thing i need is some springstein tix. man, that little steven is outta touch!

the last thing i need is some springstein tix. man, that little steven is outta touch!

Sorry I'm a little late in responding to this. I still don't believe you're right about using the word "belief" like that, because I've never seen anyone use it that way before. However, it's been a while since I took a class in English grammar, and maybe this is something you do on your side of the pond, so I'll leave it at that. Sorry I got a little nasty with you, but I just don't share that purist outlook that I can't like both Springsteen and garage rock. OCEAN PALACE said:

i think you'll find its deffinittetlly belief. you use believe when you are talking about sometehing singular, for example, "i belief there is two ducks in the pond", that is plural cos there is two ducks and "i believe there is one duck in the pond" when its singular. and if you wanna like brucey thats fine by me and i apologise i just came home last night and saw a thread on him and instantly got angry.

MikeL said:

Fuck you. I'll like whatever I want to like. If you can't deal with it, it's your problem.

BTW, you should have written "believe" rather than "belief."

And for your information, I like Springsteen's early material, i.e. "Born to Run" and "Darkness on the Edge of Town," along with select tracks from the first two albums and "The River." Yes, "Born in the USA" was an embarrassment, because it was the sell out album.

OCEAN PALACE said:

the very fact he is bruce spprignsteisnsssss guitarist is enough reason not to have anythign to do with this thing, if you think differently then you should be ashamed. how can you belief in a man who plays dancing in the dark 100 times a year.
MikeL said:

Well, then, stop going to that site.

whatwave dave said:

I got that message too.....went on that site a few times and it was a total waste of my time......unless i was having trouble sleeping that is.

MikeL said:

BTW, here's an e-mail that I received from fuzztopia. Maybe that was the plan all along, to just keep it in a beta format for a while to see how it would work out...

Fuzztopia would like to thank everybody who has created a profile and helped us test the site. Your feedback and contributions have been a huge help!

The site will be coming down for a little bit as we are in the process of making some changes based on your comments (better user interface, updated look and feel, faster load times, profile customization etc.), as well as continuing to get more cool content, and real opportunities for bands.

We will continue to keep you updated as we move closer to the launch.

and the Cheater Slicks (esp. since they're from Columbus)! FREDDI said:

Both them! Don Howland and Jeffrey Evans?!
..It's reunions time!
Imagine could see '68 Comeback,and Bassholes too in the same show!!

Both them! Don Howland and Jeffrey Evans?!
..It's reunions time!
Imagine could see '68 Comeback,and Bassholes too in the same show!!

That's right... the Gibson Brothers. First show in 18 years! Check this out for more info.

Do you like the Silver Apples? This one's my favorite. Makes me high as a kite every time I hear it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDk-PGRMMw4&feature=related

This might be the wrong forum to post this on, but it sounds to me like you need some Hawkwind in your life. 'Warrior on the Edge of Time' is a fabulous LP, as are 'In Search of Space', 'Doremi Fasol Latido' and 'Space Ritual'. Fuck it, John Rotten was/is a huge Hawkwind fan so they appealed to at least one 'punk'...

Ventures in Space album!

shoot, there's this Boredoms track that does exactly that for me. other dimensions ya say? hang on to your hat cousin, because mr square is about to meet mr cube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC2vqPHUw7s

Some of my shit might give you that feeling, or just make you feel you're having a bad trip. www.myspace.com/serialkiller2

does anybody knowany good tunes with like a spacey feel.... like when you listen to it you feel like you are in another galaxy or another dimension? touching the stars, you see an offshore space coloney making a space city, so you get like a blade runner feel or a sci fi video game feel, like FREELANCER if anybody has ever played that,, anyway i want to feel like im out there floating when i listen.

I think Greg Shaw commisioned a lot of his contributers to his magazine to do some of the gonzo styled ramblings that appeared on the back of the early pebbles. or he just used a lot of psuedonyms.

SSSWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTT!!!

This is an amazing find!!

Personally, i'd love to see another box set, like the one that was done in 1988 by Trafalgar/WEA called Under The Ashes. But this time with even more material and the live set from 12/77....yes i'm drooling! And yes, please another Radio Birdman arm patch!

Yes,the volume is the same for any speakers configuration,with a 4x12 you will gain more headroom.
The difference is in the sound:it will be hard to overdrive 4 speakers with a lower wattage amp and it will play almost only clean.You may need a good fuzz/distorsion pedal in that way.

Anyway,I think valve amps play good when they're pushed at least.If you play in locals,clubs a 100 watts is too much for push it.
A 40/50 watts amp is good enough or an AC30 head with a 2x12 is a good solution,but they "must" be 2 Celestion Blue Alnico speakers for the joy of your Vox.(and yours)

I'm on it! swt said:

You should become a BOSS JOCK too!

ixnayray said:

That's pretty damn cool!

You should become a BOSS JOCK too! ixnayray said:

That's pretty damn cool!

That's pretty damn cool!