Having grown up in NYC I saw the original Dolls. They had more stage presence than any band I've ever seen, before or since. When the original band broke up, David & Syl carried on till late 1976 as "The Dolls" until David signed a solo deal with Blue Sky records & Syl signed with RCA. Instead of hiring another guitarist, they had a piano player. It was not the NY Dolls I remembered, but they were great.

I also happen to know Sylvain for a very long time, having played bass in his solo band & on his albums Sleep Baby Doll, & New York's Au Go Go.

You have to look at this from his point of view. Drugs broke up the Dolls. Everybody knows that, but aside from that simple fact, a lot of people do not realize that they sold their publishing. In other words, in all these years they made nothing off their legacy. Till now. Syl drove a cab. When I started playing with him, he had been installing carpet for a living.

Forget whether the original Dolls were cooler or not. I know how Syl struggled for years. I played gigs with him at little dive bars in LA that he clearly out-classed. To see him up on the big stage with a shiny new Gretsch Guitar, happier than a pig in shit is unbelievable. He gave so much to Rock N Roll, it's great to see him get something back.

David Johansen says it all right here: http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/newyorkdolls/albums/album/10858452/review/11111391/one_day_it_will_please_us_to_remember_even_this

seen them twice in this incarnation and once as the originals, still prefer the originals (or for that matter johnnys solo output. I don't know that this would be an issue if they had kept playing together over the years and just replaced people as they died or left to do something ele. The current lineup is tight then the original but i miss th sloppiness. the new cds are ok but nothing holds a candle to the first album (as holds true for many bands-- you spend years writing and rehearsing that first album, then have to better it 8 -12 months later.... no wonder so many sophomore albums are a dssapointment)

I've got tp side with Rod on this one. Eddie & The Hot Rods& DR. Feelgood are definitely Pub Rock. I saw Eddie & The Hot Rods at Max's in around 76. That's what they were being called. I did not start hearing the phrase "Power Pop" until the 70's and that would be the late 70's. A few bands of the genre I left out of my earlier post are Milk N Cookies,The Marbles, The Quick,& the Sneakers The best place to discover forgotten Power Pop Chestnuts is the Power Pop Label Radio Heartbeat. They put out The Speedies record, as well as one by the Quick, Milk N Cookies & others. Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I guess if you had started your forum as "I really like what I think are the original power pop bands, groups like the Who, Creation, Easybeats, and even the Byrds. Can anyone think of others?" I wouldn't have been so confused.

Again...I'm not trying to be a jerk. I blame it on Asbergers.

I have a book called Rare Records: Wax Trash and Vinyl Treasures by a guy named Tom Hibbert. It came out in 1982 and has a chapter on sixties power pop. Some of the early Pink Floyd singles (Arnold Layne, See Emily Play) and Les Fleur De Lys are considered examples.

I guess if you had started your forum as "I really like what I think are the original power pop bands, groups like the Who, Creation, Easybeats, and even the Byrds. Can anyone think of others?" I wouldn't have been so confused.

Again...I'm not trying to be a jerk. I blame it on Asbergers.

I have a book called Rare Records: Wax Trash and Vinyl Treasures by a guy named Tom Hibbert. It came out in 1982 and has a chapter on sixties power pop. Some of the early Pink Floyd singles (Arnold Layne, See Emily Play) and Les Fleur De Lys are considered examples.

I was thinking along the lines of a much rougher version of "Have You Seen Her Face". Maybe I'm off on that. I've heard some 70s power pop bands that I like. I didn't mean to set this up as a sixties vs post-sixties discussion, nor as a discussion of nomenclature. I just wanted to hear some suggestions for songs I might be missing out on. Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

The only way that reminds me of the Byrds is if your thinking of those Pre-Colombia recordings from 1964 when they were more influenced by the Beatles rather than Dylan.

I really don't get the premise of your discussion here, especially when you say that bands after the sixties couldn't pull off power pop. I kind of forget that Pete Townshend described the Who's music as power pop but I guess it is. I tend to think of the 70s groups as power pop but I guess I'm wrong. But these days, bands like the Who, Creation, Eyes are referered to as Pop art, and the Byrds and others are called Jangle Pop. You are right that these are the original Power pop bands but what are you trying to say about 70s power pop bands?

Jamie said:

Cool suggestions. I think the only Bobby Fuller song I really know is "I Fought The Law". I read something recently that said he was experimenting with LSD before he died. I'll have to check out some more of his stuff.

Here's a song that sounds powerpoppy to me yet isn't indebted to The Who. More influenced by The Byrds I would say.

OK I can't shut up about this one. This group and Eddie and the Hotrods were called Pub Rock for a reason. Their styles were more in line with a seventies version of Chuck Berry or Larry Williams than they were the Who or even the Beatles. If I'm being too technical about the terms applied to any of these bands, you can blame it on the Asbergers or OCD. BLACKCAT69 said:

Dr. Feelgood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmIYyskDM8

Bobby Fuller? Really? I have that excellent double disc set by Munster of his complete Mustang recordings but I really don't see his stuff (Let Her Dance, The Magic Touch) as POWER pop. troggy said:

Bobby Fuller.

The only way that reminds me of the Byrds is if your thinking of those Pre-Colombia recordings from 1964 when they were more influenced by the Beatles rather than Dylan. I really don't get the premise of your discussion here, especially when you say that bands after the sixties couldn't pull off power pop. I kind of forget that Pete Townshend described the Who's music as power pop but I guess it is. I tend to think of the 70s groups as power pop but I guess I'm wrong. But these days, bands like the Who, Creation, Eyes are referered to as Pop art, and the Byrds and others are called Jangle Pop. You are right that these are the original Power pop bands but what are you trying to say about 70s power pop bands? Jamie said:

Cool suggestions. I think the only Bobby Fuller song I really know is "I Fought The Law". I read something recently that said he was experimenting with LSD before he died. I'll have to check out some more of his stuff.

Here's a song that sounds powerpoppy to me yet isn't indebted to The Who. More influenced by The Byrds I would say.

Dr. Feelgood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jmIYyskDM8

Not even a whole day later and i picked up a new follower.
Was it because of my post on this forum? Who knows.
The internet is a mysterious place.

Ray nailed it. Subscribe to other blogs you like, and comment on everything. If you like it, tell them about it. If you think they are full of shit, tell them about it. Other will people see this, and will eventually follow the link back to yuors... It doesn't hurt to get on threads like this one and chime in either. After this post, i'll probabally pick up a new follower or two. It's not much, but it's more than if i didn't bother to throw in my two cents. A little shameless self promotion is cool too- as long as you aren't pushy about it. (So here goes) Personally i have two blogs, ones a daily rock and roll history site, and ones an MP3 site. Both pretty small time, but i do have a handful of regular followers. Here are some links: http://wopbopaloobopalopbamboom.blogspot.com/ http://rockandrolltoday.blogspot.com/ And hey, if you like what you see, leave a comment. I check out your blog, if i think its cool i might subcribe, one of my readers sees your comment, one of your readers sees mine, etc... Networking. Just like that. Wow- i just realized this thread is a year old... Whatever. It's the internet.

No question. Can't beat the original. I've got it on 45 b/w "Woman Love", and it always makes me wanna dance!

So when you say Gene Simmons has a version of Be Bop a Lula, are you talking about the Kiss musician or Jumpin' Gene Simmons of "Haunted House" fame?

Alan Vega's version is good, too.

I have to stick with Gene Vincent's original as well but I do like a version on Garage Punk Unknowns that speeds it up a bit to the point where it reminds of Hanky Panky by Tommy James.

Gene Simmons? HUh?

Hey Ted, this page should hopefully answer all your questions:

http://garagepunk.ning.com/page/podcast-guidelines

If not, then post your followup questions below and we'll try to help as much as possible. Good luck!

Apop Records in St. Louis wants to carry your 'zine. See this link for more info.

Don't know much about organs and keys,yes,Elka,Farfisa...Recently Jensen speakers are made in Italy too,I should change the 10" of my Fender Pro Jr.,but I haven't heard good impressions about them.Most prefer the Weber. Do you know something about it? John Carlucci said:

What about all the great Italian Combo Organs from the 60's? We have a beautiful "Gem" organ. Gem was the company that produced the Vox Jaguar. It's identical, except for the omission of the reverse colored keys.

What about all the great Italian Combo Organs from the 60's? We have a beautiful "Gem" organ. Gem was the company that produced the Vox Jaguar. It's identical, except for the omission of the reverse colored keys.

God! not a car thought for the petrol crisis for sure but...AMAZING! Dickie Normus said:

Freddi- Stop in Iowa and I'll hook you up in a real one, hardtop that is. One conv. was made(in red) and 35 hardtops. 1966 in triple black! Paid $500 w/o motor!

Ray Manzarek & Rick and the Ravens (pre-Doors)

The Judge-- sound by Paul Revere and the Raiders

The Munsters oh yaa

Swing by and check it out. A blog featuring random tracks from my personal collection, sometimes with a personal twist. Nearly all of which come from vinyl.
60's, R&B, rock and roll, oldies, novelty records, whatever.

Here's a link:
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