When Black Flag was happening , I WAS IN THAT ITSY BITSY TEENIE WEENIE MINORITY THAT DID'NT LIKE "DAMAGED" (I'VE NEVER HEARD OF "LOUIE LOUIE"only being available on import copies. Seems it was on every copy Ii ever heard....Maybe it was pulled late r, for publishing reasons ?). Could'nt get with Henry , I just don't have that much testosterone. I liked "Everything Went Black" (But did'nt feel a need to buy it.) "Jealous Again " (Which I did buy , for a dollar.) , and "TV Party " (Both Versions.), but , overall , I did'nt get it. I had'nt started liking 70's Hard Rock again , with few exceptions , and The Flag were turning into The Sabs......Yes ,I like The Sabs , now , but later Flag and the Speed Metal craze (Even tho' I liked some of those bands in the 80's. I still liked the HC era intensity , but , it was good to hear it done by bands that could actually play. Some could even SING. ), it seemed a matter of eating your cake and having it , too. i SAW ROLLINS ON HIS FIRST "SPOKEN WORD" TOUR(BACK WHEN THEY CALLED IT "POETRY"). Some of his readings I liked , some I found really unnecessary......But , I met him at a 7-11 (Did'nt everyone?) . Atfirst , he gave me that dagger - stare. Then , when he realized I knew who he was , he was considerably cooler. Maybe also because I did'nt bust his balls about the 12 Pack he was toting , and I don't mean his stomach......IN LATER YEARS , HE COPPED TO DRINKING AND DOING DRUGS IN THE PAST (NOT COPPING IS A COP OUT.).....
Rollins , to me , is like Robert Plant . Great taste in music , but , I hear NONE of those influences in their own music , and I have no need to buy records by either , and even THAT is nothing personal.
Mike said:
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:A friend of mine had Damaged on a lable called Roadracer and it tacked on Louie Louie on the end but I thought a different singer was on that.
I don't have that import version of Damaged, but I'd assume that'd be the version from the Louie Louie 7" that Dez Cadena sang on. He was my fave Flag singer, perhaps as he was the first one I had seen them with. Others have told me they prefer Keith Morris and Ron Reyes over Dez. Rollins was not a bad fit with the band the first year or so. I saw their first LA area gig with him after they came back from the tour in which they picked him up. I speculate that he had a desire to prove himself to the home town crowd. But once he became established in Flag it seemed to become the Henry Rollins Show as opposed to a Black Flag show. They kind of evolved into a "jam" band of sorts from that point to the end and lost that manic energy that had attracted such a rabid following.
So I would say everything up to and including Damaged as well as the "Everything Went Black" double LP of demos is what I'd consider essential Black Flag material.
Well , they were friends with Motorhead , and gigged together. The "Please Don't Touch" single featured members of both bands doing the title track , "Bomber" and "Emergency" by Girlschool.
Giannis KRI said:
Yes i think i heard them covering emergency too.Probably they liked motorhead.But who doesn't?Maybe me,but joey ramone does.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:I do like one thing by them when they teamed with Motorhead to do this Johnny Kidd and the Pirates cover, but this could have easily been done by the Pandoras, Brood, or Runaways as well.
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Louie louie The Hermosa Beach, California hardcore punk band Black Flag released a cover version of "Louie Louie" as a single in 1981 through Posh Boy Records. It was the band's first release with Dez Cadena as singer, replacing Ron Reyes who had left the group the previous year. Cadena would go on to sing on the Six Pack EP before switching to rhythm guitar and being replaced on vocals by Henry Rollins.
I think I'll always love Black Flag, especially the first four years stuff with Keith Morris. I do like alot of the Rollins albums, but I think the early stuff was just much more killer.
I like Girlschool , if that's who was on the (Since removed) video. Not everything they've done. I would'nt put them in a category remotely resembling Black Flag , and even their status as a "Metal" band is largely circumstantial. When they came out , they stood on the fringes of The New Wave of British Heavy Metal movement , and their association with Motorhead cemented their "Metal" status. To me , it's melodic Hard Rock (Not all Hard Rock is HeavyMetal ,as people think of it , today....), influenced by Punk , but not in a very obvious way , maybe (Come on , tho' , those are'nt Punk chords on "Hit and Run"?).....
Black Flag , liked 'em to a point. Never understood how they got to become THEE band in the 80's . I liked the pre - Rollins stuff , too , BUT , THAT WAS IT , EXCEPT FOR "T.V.Party". Their only record I ever bought , for a dollar , and still own , is the "Jealous Again" EP. Saw Rollins band , horrible. They could PLAY , BUT THEY WERE'NT TOO FAR REMOVED , TO THESE EARS , FROM GRUNGE ROCK. If you don't like Jam Bands , avoid Greg Ginn's current outfit. I did'nt expect them to be Punk. I'd hoped , by ther name , they'd be Country.
Stretching out one note for five minutes is only so interesting.
I met Henry , by chance , at a 7-11 (imagine.) . He was actually very cool. Did'nt care if I was a fan or not. This WAS across the street from Wrigley Field , maybe that's why he seemed so glad to see me.
The closest thing to an all girl Black Flag was probably Bikini Kill
oh yeah - we do -
we cover 'fix me' doing an extreme loud version and a jazzy freak version - started doing it when we bought the whole Chuck Biscuits hoax - funny and glad :)
Oh, how I love the Flag! Pre-Rollins is definitely my favorite era. I've got a black bars sticker on my car.
Just saw Mudhoney play here in Seattle last month, and they've taken to closing with a killer cover of Fix Me. They were playing at the Tractor Tavern, home to lots of roots music in Seattle, so Mark Arm closed their encore by commenting, "Now we're going to play some roots music from Lawndale, California..."
I do like one thing by them when they teamed with Motorhead to do this Johnny Kidd and the Pirates cover, but this could have easily been done by the Pandoras, Brood, or Runaways as well.
wow!!! dont evenknow whhat to say about that!
Giannis KRI said:Yes i think i heard them covering emergency too.Probably they liked motorhead.But who doesn't?Maybe me,but joey ramone does.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:I do like one thing by them when they teamed with Motorhead to do this Johnny Kidd and the Pirates cover, but this could have easily been done by the Pandoras, Brood, or Runaways as well.
Yes i think i heard them covering emergency too.Probably they liked motorhead.But who doesn't?Maybe me,but joey ramone does.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:I do like one thing by them when they teamed with Motorhead to do this Johnny Kidd and the Pirates cover, but this could have easily been done by the Pandoras, Brood, or Runaways as well.
I do like one thing by them when they teamed with Motorhead to do this Johnny Kidd and the Pirates cover, but this could have easily been done by the Pandoras, Brood, or Runaways as well.