Yeah Andy I know what you mean but nonetheless Punk was turned into a fashion thing for lots of folks through some heavy media presence, including some utter rubbish printed in the likes of the Daily Mirror in summer of '77 including an article showing Ten Easy Steps On How To Be A Punk Rocker, and ludicrous stuff like that...and then of course all the teenie magazines of the time who were covering all the previous pop, and glam groups earlier on in the 70s began to feature loads of punk groups posing in all their finery too...so like it or not, fashion did indeed play its part in the punk rock scene, for better or worse... take it from someone who was very much there at the time, even if, admittedly, I wasn't right there at the very dawn of it all. But in around '77-'80 I saw the likes of The Buzzcocks, The Clash with Suicide, The Jam, The Damned with The Dead Boys, The Radiators From Space (supporting Thin Lizzy), Siouxsie and the Banshees with Spizz Oil, Adam and the Ants, 999, Dr Feelgood with Mink Deville, The Cure, Ultravox, The Slits, Subway Sect, Magazine and Bauhaus, The Fall with The Cramps, The Monochrome Set...not to mention some of our very own Scottish groups like Matt Vinyl and The Decorators, the Scars, TV Art (soon to become Josef K), the Dirty Reds (soon to become the Fire Engines), and of course The Skids, Bee Bee Cee, The Prats and a whole heap more too...
Andy Climax said:Oi! Punk etc. All the same moniker really. Just a reaction to the shit that was happening in Britain at the time. I believe the same shit was happening in New York and Detroit at the same time. Oi! was born of the skinhead/suedehead movement, and was more racially motivated. The skinheads came directly from the old punks who were totally disillusioned with the commercial crap that the clash and the pistols etc were eventually comin out with. So its all punk really. Like the hippy thing in the 50's and 60's, punk was'nt and is'nt a fashion thing, its a way of life and thinking