June 15, 2013 3:39 PM CDT
Spit Stix , Derf Scratch , SKY SAXON !!!! , Joey Shithead (Someone probably mentioned that one.) , Jean Caffeine , Farrah Fawcett Minors , Alice Bag , Nicky Beat , NICKY SIXX (Jon and The Nightriders , not Motley Crue.), John Doe , Billy Zoom , D.J. Bonebrake , Sue Tissue , Frank Ennui , Jack Starr , Dane Bramage , Nicky Beat , Carlos Caballero , Chuck Wagon , Bootsey X / Bobby Beyond , Niagara , DAVE.
June 15, 2013 3:24 PM CDT
That song was HUGE in the states.....But , being a "One - Hit wonder" , here , most people were probably unaware they were English....So "The Land of the Dollar Bill" , I don't think that phased anyone. Now , as a kid , it had me thinking that Al Capone tried to literally take Chicago over, and wasted 100 cops a throw , as opposed to rival gangsters.....
"Billy" is a sad damned song. I thought it was about Vietnam , not The Civil War , so , it hit close to home for a young boy who'd later be accused of "Not remembering Vietnam.".
Even if you hate the song (Not saying I don't) , death discs were back - Last Kiss (Wednesday's version ), Last Game of The Season , Rocky , Emma , Run , Joey , Run , Seasons in The Sun , and so on......
June 14, 2013 6:46 PM CDT
I do recall "Billy Don't Be A Hero", and I'm somewhat ashamed to say that it made me sad (as it was supposed to, not sad that a band had recorded it) at the time, and I really liked it. But this Chicago thing - it's so bad, it's almost brilliant; don't they mention "in the land of the dollar bill"? Did anyone in the US buy this record? If so, were they arrested and tried in court for failing to spot the corniest reference to their own country by (a band from) the country that always thinks of itself as massively superior? Heh heh - in the land of the dollar bill, indeed!
John Battles said:
YOU'RE JUST NOW HEARING IT? Boy , I feel old.....It's one of those 70'S HITS I'M KINDA NUMB TO , NOW....Paper Lace actually had a few sorta Glam hits in Europe , like "The Black Eyed Boys". But , they commited the big blunder at the very beginning of "The Night Chicago Died" - "...My daddy was a cop , on the East Side of Chicago..." . The East Side of Chicago is Lake Michigan !!!! We can also thank Paper Lace for the original version of "Billy , Don't Be a Hero" , which was'nt a hit in The US. When Bo Donaldson and The Heywoods' version was a hit , here , I thought , "Is that a girl singing?" , even moreso when their lesser , follow - up hit , "Who Do You Think You Are?" came out ..... Jello loves 'em.
Pete Sottrel said:"The Night Chicago Died - Paper Lace. Please, if you don't know this song, do not ever listen to it."
Of course, I have now listened to it. Can I ever be the person I was five minutes ago, before my soul was stained with the musical spew that constitutes this song? Why, why, why did I not follow the clear advice in the OP?
June 14, 2013 5:16 PM CDT
It is.....The ultimate demoralization for me was when I was DJing at this dive bar on New Years' Eve . Only the "Regulars" showed up , none of the younger people who later turned the place into Punk Central. The owner asked me to take five ,so the regulars could play the jukebox. You guessed it , "Hotel California", the LIVE version , yet, think I heard it three times that night.
Ghislaine said:
Hotel Cal is the worse...AAAARRRRGGG!
June 14, 2013 5:11 PM CDT
YOU'RE JUST NOW HEARING IT? Boy , I feel old.....It's one of those 70'S HITS I'M KINDA NUMB TO , NOW....Paper Lace actually had a few sorta Glam hits in Europe , like "The Black Eyed Boys". But , they commited the big blunder at the very beginning of "The Night Chicago Died" - "...My daddy was a cop , on the East Side of Chicago..." . The East Side of Chicago is Lake Michigan !!!! We can also thank Paper Lace for the original version of "Billy , Don't Be a Hero" , which was'nt a hit in The US. When Bo Donaldson and The Heywoods' version was a hit , here , I thought , "Is that a girl singing?" , even moreso when their lesser , follow - up hit , "Who Do You Think You Are?" came out ..... Jello loves 'em.
Pete Sottrel said:
"The Night Chicago Died - Paper Lace. Please, if you don't know this song, do not ever listen to it."
Of course, I have now listened to it. Can I ever be the person I was five minutes ago, before my soul was stained with the musical spew that constitutes this song? Why, why, why did I not follow the clear advice in the OP?
June 14, 2013 7:14 AM CDT
the complete discography of Eminem,
bwaaaaaaaaargh!
June 14, 2013 4:41 AM CDT
"The Night Chicago Died - Paper Lace. Please, if you don't know this song, do not ever listen to it."
Of course, I have now listened to it. Can I ever be the person I was five minutes ago, before my soul was stained with the musical spew that constitutes this song? Why, why, why did I not follow the clear advice in the OP?
June 15, 2013 3:13 PM CDT
I first heard about Pebbles in , like , 81 -2....BUT , I HAD NEXT TO NO DISPOSABLE INCOME , THEN , TO SPEND ON RECORDS I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT , BEYOND A FEW BAND NAMES , AND WHAT KIND OF MUSIC IT WAS.....I REMEMBER SEEING Floyd Dakil's name , and knowing he'd had a lounge in Dallas a few years earlier. It may have still been open.
I spoke to him a few times , and , like a lot of people , he did'nt know he had a song on "Pebbles" , but he did'nt seemthat bothered by it.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:
Actually, I never heard of Pebbles until 1988 and I didn't realize they had a connection to the Highs in the Mid 60s until after the 90s. Nuggets I became aware of sometime in 1986. I only knew all the hits throughout the 80s and read about some of the other groups from a book called Wax Trash (or something like that).
June 15, 2013 12:45 PM CDT
Actually, I never heard of Pebbles until 1988 and I didn't realize they had a connection to the Highs in the Mid 60s until after the 90s. Nuggets I became aware of sometime in 1986. I only knew all the hits throughout the 80s and read about some of the other groups from a book called Wax Trash (or something like that).
June 15, 2013 8:26 AM CDT
Maybe it's time for ye olde Gringo Starr to weigh in here. The first time I heard the phrase "Sixties Punk" was around 1982-83 uttered by David Klowden (drummer of The Tell Tale Hearts). I was into The Byrds and folk rock/psyche before I heard those words which led me to records like Turn On The Music Machine and Web Of Sound by The Seeds. Of course the Pebbles records were incredibly important to all of us in the '80s.
June 15, 2013 1:46 AM CDT
Yeah , The Cramps broke my brain , but that was when i was starting to listen to Rockabilly and Garage , too. I used to be really into some of the UK Psychobilly bands , but , I never thought they had much to do with The Cramps. Neither did The Cramps. Neither did Paul Fenech. Alot of those bands just sounded like Traditional Rockabilly , played faster , before the jacked up Metal rhythms so many of those bands have , now....I went to a "Psycho" show , once , because a good friend of mine was doing merch for Mad Sin , who , as bad as they were , were still the best of 5 bands that played. The audience thought that stuff was new....It was already like nostalgia when I saw The Meteors in '96 , tho' it was a very good show , and Fenech actually turned out to be a nice guy. But , the Psychobilly thing bridged the gap between Punk and Rockabilly in Europe. People started going , wow , we like the same things . We don't have to beat the crap out of each other , anymore. Not that everybody did. But , that Mad Sin show , Jesus Cristo , people were beating the ever luvin' fuck out of each other, I'm not talking moshing or wreckin' , just picking fights , left and right. OK , IT'S VERY "HIPPIE' TO ABHOR VIOLENCE , but I live in a city with 5 major sports teams , that's enough testosterone , right there.
Pete English said:
It has to be finding the Cramps and realising there was a huge history behind it all. To a lesser degree the British pyschobilly scene also revealed a large covers catalogue. Seeing these bands live really brought it all into focus and the vibe was really exciting. It was great to feel like you had found something totally different and there were other like minded misfits out there. It's great to find new sounds but its even better to show them to someone else.
June 14, 2013 7:55 PM CDT
It has to be finding the Cramps and realising there was a huge history behind it all. To a lesser degree the British pyschobilly scene also revealed a large covers catalogue. Seeing these bands live really brought it all into focus and the vibe was really exciting. It was great to feel like you had found something totally different and there were other like minded misfits out there. It's great to find new sounds but its even better to show them to someone else.
June 14, 2013 5:25 PM CDT
June 14, 2013 5:25 PM CDT
That's basically what happened in Dallas....A very good Oldies station actually turned up a few years , later. They played ALL the "Nuggets" hits , as well as "Over , Under , Sideways , Down" , "Call Me Lightning" and even , sometimes "See Emily Play " !!
However, the one DJ allowed to play Punk , New Wave , etc. , George Gimarc , told me he tried to get a Garage - heavy show on the Oldies station. He told them wanted to play regional hits , like "You're Gonna Miss Me" , "Evol , Not Love" by The Five Americans and "Bad Girl' by Zakary Thaks. Then , he said he wanted to play "Let's Talk About Girls" by The Chocolate Watchband , to which they replied "WHO are The Chocolate Watchband" . He told 'em , this conversation is OVER.
Rockin Rod Strychnine said:
We had a similar show in Seattle that was called, for some reason, "Electric Lunch" which from 1982-1986 featured a lot of the harder 60s stuff like you mentioned but also the hard 1965-1967 British songs. Everything was basic stuff though, but you didn't hear a lot of these songs during the rest of the day. This was on the rock station. By 1987, they started to drop all that and play album tracks from late 60s and early 70s albums (rock oriented) and I quit listening to that station. That host moved to a classic rock station and hosts a Saturday morning show which combines Nuggets, psychedelic rock and British Rock 1964-1968. It's alright, but it isn't the same magic that it was in the early 80s.
June 15, 2013 9:16 AM CDT
Radio What Wave Playlist June 13/2013
We started this show 30m early, ie 5:30 PM as the DJ before us called in sick.
1. 63 Monroe...At The Boot...from Slippery's Club Hits, the cassette that comes with the latest edition of What Wave zine, #24.
Markii and Rooster from 63 Monroe, Cedar Lounge 1982
2. Radio 4...New York City...as above.
3. The Stoves...Can't Slow Down...as above.
4. Marvelous Beauhunks...Sticky Kisses...from the CD, Who Said The Kids Are Alright?
5. 905s...Under A Spell/Stay Inside...from the Radio WW Sessions, originally aired 5/16/13.
905s at Call The Office, 4/21/07
6. The Johnnys....Motorcycle Mama...from the Rock CD.
7. The noble Savages...Gimme A Kiss...from their latest demo.
The noble Savages 4/21/12 Brennan's Beer Bistro
8. King Beez...Jack The Ripper...from the Deathproof Volume 1 CD, this is the hidden track.
9. The Blue Demons...Cougar Country...from their 7" on Boppa Do Down Records. Caught the Blue Demons live at The Backstage in Hamilton on 6/8/13, absolute Killer show!!
The Blue Demons, Backstage Stratford 6/8/13
10. The Greasemarks...Bloodshot Eyes...from their Griddle Greasin' Daddies CD. They also played with The Blue Demons and were Excellent!!! Catch this band live if you get a chance!
The Greasemarks, Backstage, Stratford 6/8/13 and out of focus.
11. Tijuana Bibles...Custom Made Man...from the CD of the same name. For an indy wrestler who used to ply his trade around this area.
12. The Von Drats...So Long Stinktown...from their Boppa Do Down single.
The Von Drats, London Music Club, 4/25/09
13. Chris Houston...Einstein's Brain's In Hamilton...from his latest single. Chris Houston opens up for Tav Falco and The Unapproachable Panther Burns on Wed June 19th at This Ain't Hollywood in Hamilton.
14. Chris Houston...Surfin' On Heroin...from the Hate Filled Man LP.
15. Sam Squid...People Food...a demo of a song written by Chris Houston and Chris does vocals on this one. Sam Squid is in The Squids, a real cool 2 piece outta Hamilton.
The Squids, This Ain't Hollywood, Hamilton 3/2/13
16. Panther Burns...Pantherman....from the Blow Your Top EP. As mentioned above, Tav Falco and The Unapproachable Panther Burns appear at This Ain't Hollywood, Wed June 19th at This Ain't Hollywood. I'll be up front with a shit eating grin!
Panther Burns, Silver Dollar, Toronto, late 80's.
17. Panther Burns...She's The One That's Got It...from Behind The Magnolia Curtain LP.
18. Panther Burns...Dateless Night...from the Return of The Blue Panther LP.
Panther Burns, Silver Dollar, Toronto, late 80's
19. Panther Burns...Surfside Date...from The World We Knew LP.
Artwork by Dave Clarke. This appeared in What Wave along with a Panther Burns interview.
20. Panther Burns...She's The One To Blame...from the Red Devil LP. Hope you enjoyed our little spotlight on Panther Burns. They did appear in London, probably about 1982 at Fryfogles Tavern on Dundas St. They walked in carrying their instruments, set up on stage and proceeded to blow away the small but appreciative crowd!! Anybody got pics of this gig??
Next time we saw Panther Burns was at The Silver Dollar in Toronto. Interviewed Tav that eve and the interview appeared in What Wave many years ago.
About this time Mad Anthony invaded the Radio WW studio to talk about their non-ending tour and visit to the area. Check the Mad Anthony facebook page for the latest list of gigs around this area.
21. Mad Anthony...Bear Attack...from their latest CD, which is self titled.
22. Mad Anthony...Teeth...from the I Spent All My Money on Death Metal CD.
23. Mad Anthony...Million Miles Away...from their latest CD.
24. Mad Anthony...Solution To The Indian Problem...from the I Spent All My Money On Death Metal CD. The band explained this song, the historical connotation of their name and how this all fits together. It finally all makes sense!
25. Legend Killers...Cry Cry Cry...from Thee Cave Comes Alive LP from Action Records in Greece. This is a compilation LP of some of the garagiest tunes that were on the cassettes that came with What Wave zine... this came out in 2004.
And a play at the Fringe Festival here in London, Beautiful View features some live sounds from The Legend Killers in one of the scenes early in the play. Checked it out last night, little too arty for our tastes, but fun nonetheless and well worth checking out if you're into live theatre! The last showing is sunday at 6:30PM.
26. Orie Hitt Machine...Killer Inside Me...demo from some local crazies.
27. Gatgas...Back To The Assylum...from their demo, more local crazies!
28. The Shakers...Do Anything...from a 7" on Warpt Records from the late 70's/early 80's. Hamilton based combo that featured Dave Rave (Teenage Head, Dave Rave Conspiracy and presently solo).
That's a wrap. Big thanx to Mad Anthony for coming into the studio and keeping us posted on all the area gigs. Thanx for all the phone-ins, emails, Heys etc!!
Back again next week with more noise to annoy!
All pictures from What Wave Archives, please do not reproduce on postcards and try to sell them without permission.
And here's a link to the podcast:
June 15, 2013 8:13 AM CDT
LOVE Larry Williams...must get that album!
John Battles said:
God , you know what ? I remember when I could have bought that as an import.....I did'nt , I was never a huge fan. Then, I learned , later , that it's a stone cold killer.....But I've never actually heard it.
Ben E said:Has anybody heard Larry Williams' Live in '65 album? Sounds like it might be classic..
June 15, 2013 1:33 AM CDT
God , you know what ? I remember when I could have bought that as an import.....I did'nt , I was never a huge fan. Then, I learned , later , that it's a stone cold killer.....But I've never actually heard it.
Ben E said:
Has anybody heard Larry Williams' Live in '65 album? Sounds like it might be classic..
June 15, 2013 1:18 AM CDT
Has anybody heard Larry Williams' Live in '65 album? Sounds like it might be classic..
June 15, 2013 6:21 AM CDT
June 15, 2013 2:18 AM CDT
OK ,WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT....BUT , IT'S TOO EASY TO TAKE SHOTS AT THE FUZZTONES. NOT MANY OF THEIR PEERS ARE STILL AT IT , AND MAKING GOOD ALBUMS NOW AND AGAIN (PARTICULARLY "SALT FOR ZOMBIES").....Since their first US releases , we've had The Makers , Mono Men, Mortals , The Go , Mooney Suzuki , Deadbolt , Reigning Sound , Mummies , and a zillion others I'm supposed to worship , apart from buying some of their records , then finding they had a short shelf life , I don't get it.
June 15, 2013 1:09 AM CDT
Try anything with Grady Martin paying guitar on it, it bridges country, jazz, western swing, rockabilly in that particular early '50s way.
June 14, 2013 9:42 PM CDT
I just heard about this flick from a band's Facebook. I guess I missed this thread the first time around. The film really looks incredible - Dirtbombs, Hentchmen, Detroit Cobras, et al. - so I hope it sees the light of day sometime soon. The filmmakers are raising funds for distribution, with a tentative release date of August 2013. I threw some bucks to their Kickstarter, and it looks like they're about halfway there with 19 days to go. Anyway, the trailer looks fantastic, have a look-see:
June 14, 2013 4:42 PM CDT
Sounds amazing and they're hitting Santander on Sunday.
Can't wait!!!
June 14, 2013 2:00 PM CDT
So, has anyone found the light in the darkness of insanity on this topic yet, or are you all, like me, just perplexed and at a standstill?
June 14, 2013 7:43 AM CDT
After stumbling into Witch's first album and then wizard, I've been pretty hooked on the stuff. The awesome riffs and atmospheric sounds remind me of some genre of hard rock after Sabbath, but before whatever inspired most of modern metal. I'm definitely checking out the bands you guys listed!
