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The Who invented punk rock. Period.

What happened after that (until Keith has been his regular amazing self as a drummer, that means until Live at Leeds, where they invented hard rock), it's just history.

But the renditon of A Quick One on the Rock'n'Roll Circus is the greates live performance ever done by a band. And will never be outlasted.

Yeah, I'm sorry to say, YEAH, couldn't give a damn about anything later either. And I so want to. All that talent in his hands and Townsend just wastes it.

As for Daltry, he really should rethink trying to hit those high notes now. Oh, wow, worst part of last week's performance. Besides him opening his shirt front. *sigh*

Mel

James Porter said:

1965-68 = essential Who

1969-78 = still good, just not great

1981 onward = terrible

Nobody will ever be Keith Moon but I never truly thought it was fair to blame Kenny Jones for the band the way they ended up.  He's competent.  The whole thing is like Pete Best in reverse.  But howabout blaming Pete Townshend for keeping all the good songs for himself on Empty Glass and All the Best Cowboys have Chinese Eyes and giving the band crap.  Not a fan of those songs but I'm not gonna deny they have quality.  Even Emminence Front was a solo song that he put on a Who album.  But Jones' drumming wasn't bad.  It was just different.

I'd make you comps, no problem.  What is the easiest way to make a comp available to someone via the Web?

Joey Fuckup said:

Damn, care to make me some comps? Or would you by chance have a way of putting all this in a zip file?  ;)
ShapelyDice said:

A few weeks ago I made a series of comps for a friend who is into electronic nonsense (ugh...).  Three comps, each with 22 tracks, for a total of 66, as in the year 1966.  Great, huh?  Anyway, this was my attempt to "convert" him to garage.  I titled my comps "Murky Mysteries From the Savage Sixties."  I'll post them here so you can see what I included:

MURKY MYSTERIES FROM THE SAVAGE SIXTIES
1. The Vectors – Paisley Haze
2. Art Guy – Where You Gonna Go
3. The Bittersweet – She Lied
4. The Younger Brothers – Go Away
5. The Keggs – To Find Out
6. Dennis and the Times – Flight Patterns
7. The Sound Barrier – Hey, Hey
8. Licorice Schtick – Flowers, Flowers
9. Silk Winged Alliance – Hometown
10. The Remaining Few – Painted Air
11. The Chob – We’re Pretty Quick
12. The Colony – Things on My Mind
13. It’s Us – Don’t Want Your Lovin’
14. Kiriae Crucible – Salem Witch Trials
15. The Wave-Riders – Ain’t It a Shame
16. The Eastern Alliance – Love Fades Away
17. The Burgundy Runn – Stop!
18. Children of the Mushroom – August Mademoiselle
19. Richard Pash and the Back Door Society – I’m the Kind
20. The Assortment – Bless Our Hippie Home
21. The Human Expression – Readin’ Your Will
22. Godfrey – Let’s Take a Trip

MURKY MYSTERIES FROM THE SAVAGE SIXTIES II
1. Magical Mist – Time Out to Fly
2. The Tremors – Wondering Why
3. The Painted Ship – Frustration
4. Teddy and His Patches – Suzy Creamcheese
5. The Outcasts – 1523 Blair
6. The Us Too Group – Girl With the Golden Hair
7. The Savages – The World Ain’t Round, It’s Square
8. The Painted Faces – Anxious Color
9. Just Two Guys – I’m Free
10. Park Avenue Playground – The Trip
11. The Jesters of Newport – Stormy
12. The Weads – Don’t Call My Name
13. The Mind’s Eye – Help, I’m Lost
14. The Hazards – Hey Joe
15. The Human Expression – Every Night
16. The Dearly Beloved – Flight 13
17. The Big Town Boys – August 32nd
18. Tyde – Psychedelic Pill
19. Crystal Chandelier – Setting of Despair
20. The Wee Four – Weird
21. The Graveyard Five – Marble Orchard
22. The Raven – Calamity Jane

MURKY MYSTERIES FROM THE SAVAGE SIXTIES III
1. Graf Zepplin – You’re in My Mind
2. The Baytovens – My House
3. The Warlocks – Mindbender (Confusion’s Prince)
4. The Shades of Night – Fluctuation
5. T.C. Atlantic – Faces
6. The Explorers – Blue Flavored Lollipop
7. Aluminum Dream – Strangers Calling
8. The Monacles – I Can’t Win
9. The Beaux Jens – She Was Mine
10. The Mustard Men – I Lost My Baby
11. The Buck Rogers Movement – Baby Come On
12. The Stoics – Enough of What I Need
13. The Bees – Voice Green and Purple
14. The Tides In – Trip With Me
15. Fe-Fi-Four Plus 2 – I Wanna Come Back (From the World of LSD)
16. Los Chijuas – Changing the Colors of Life
17. The Five Canadians – Writing on the Wall
18. The Shaynes – From My Window
19. The Other Half – The Girl With the Long Black Hair
20. Oscar and the Majestics – House of the Rising Sun
21.The Outsiders – She’s Coming On Stronger
22. The Psychotics – If You Don’t Believe Me, Don’t

Let me know what you think.  I had initially rummaged through all my stuff to pick out the ones I thought needed to be included, and I had well over 150 tracks.  I thought that was too much, so I shortened it to 66. 

This wouldn't normally fall into the garage category but it's nice and raw

My girlfriend found this album by HE5, a Korean psychedelic band from the late 60's. No lyrics, but some pretty dirty 'n' fun versions of some Christmas Standards.

The Dirtbombs - My Last Christmas

JD McDonald - Boogaloo Santa Claus 

The 5.6.7.8's- Rock & Roll Santa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOCVpu6i0C8

"And of course the bottom line is that all of these are great songs. They're just not genre pieces. There has been a lot of archaeological dig in the world of garage since Nuggets. But to me, what made the album initially attractive beyond any musical philosophizing was the fact that every one of these songs were great songs beyond genre."

http://www.spinner.com/2012/12/18/lenny-kaye-nuggets-40th-anniversary/

"Quite right slick!"

Erik said:

Dylan wins simply because he never wrote somthing as awful as mello yellow!

 

thumbs up on all of those. i just checked out The Jolly Jumpers after reading your response here and i definitely dig it.

Eric Reanimator said:

I have a couple of suggestions that are in the range you mention...

 

The Jolly Jumpers from Finland

 

The Jet Black Berries albums from the 80s, might be a little too Rock, but worth checking out.

 

You like Tom Waits... check out Stan Ridgeway

 

lastly I would also point you towards the records of The Divine Horsemen...

From 1966:

John, was that a joke? "DALLAS DID'NT HAVE ANY HARDCORE BANDS"? With alla those skins, you'd think it would be a city tailor-made for HC...

But any converts we can get from that dull genre is win/win with me.

John Battles said:

Ain't it the gospel.....IN '86 ,WHEN I HAD A RADIO SHOW IN DALLAS , THE HARDCORE PEOPLE WERE THE BIGGEST BABIES , IN TERMS OF COMPLAINING THAT I PLAYED TOO MUCH GARAGE AND ROCKABILLY FOR THEIR LIKING. THEY'RE PROBABLY TELLING THEIR FRIENDS HOW 'OLD SCHOOL GARAGE " THEY ARE , NOW. TO BE FAIR , I KNEW A GUY WHO LISTENED TO NOTHING BUT HARDCORE , HAD AT LEAST 100 HC RECORDS. ONE DAY , HE BROUGHT AN ELEVATORS LP HOME. I DON'T THINK HE STOPPED LISTENING TO HARDCORE OUTRIGHT , AND NO ONE WAS SAYING HE SHOULD HAVE , BUT , NEXT THING YOU KNEW , HE WAS GROWING HIS HAIR OUT , WEARING 60'S PRINT SHIRTS , AND HE TURNED UP IN A (DESERVEDLY) POPULAR PSYCH BAND. NEVER HEARD HIM PLAY MUCH HC , AS DALLAS DID'NT HAVE ANY HARDCORE BANDS......

Ha, the Estrus/Epitaph "house sound"! Epitaph really had that problem, w/ a house producer, even. 

And to James, it's true, variety is much appreciated! There are certain sounds I lean towards, but a whole album of that is too much even for me!

As long as the chemistry is there, it can sound chaotic or clean-ish, I'm not too picky. I heard a story about CRIME that said the engineer was so frustrated by them that he just turned up everything and left the room w/ the reels running! Sounded great!

John Battles said:

That's whatI was going on about , but on another thread. I know a LOT of people love it when everything just bleeds together , and  there's no balance  in sound or sound levels.

It did'nt end with Estrus , either......

Yeh, it's the beat! Did you see that American Splendor comic w/ Harvey and a Nat King Cole fan complainin' about 'todays kids'? The guy was yelling, "They just want the beat! That's all that's important to them!"  :D

And Emotion, yep. Nice reply...

You don't like gtr solos, but what about a good ol' Northwest-style break? "Ok, let's give it to 'em, right now!"

The screamin' Soul Preacher said:

Yep, the BEAT sure is the thing !

The wilder I can shake my ass to a tune, the better I love it !

But what attracts me first, more than a specific sound or instrument, is an emotion. I don't really care about the lyrics, guitar sound or musical ability as long as it makes me shake or scream or laugh or cry or whatever...I just got to FEEL something !

That said, I love chainsaw guitars, screaming distortions, reverb and tremolo, wild'n'possessed vocals, jungle tribal percussions, throbbing basses, haunted organs, bass crooners ala screamin' Jay and Mickey Mouse teenagers ala Ray Hummel III, the sound of wood you can feel with the double-bass, crazy tom-toms, sexual pulsations of an almost erotic beat and so much more... But not necessarily in the same song ! 

And I hate guitar solos !!!

What always grabs me most is an attitude.  I don't mind sloppiness as long as an attitude is there but if it's just sloppy, I'm gone.

That's whatI was going on about , but on another thread. I know a LOT of people love it when everything just bleeds together , and  there's no balance  in sound or sound levels.

It did'nt end with Estrus , either......

Oh, allright. I didn't get it at first.  Yeah, a book about the experiences would be great.  I lived in Olympia, WA during the late 80s and early 90s and I thought that scene ruled.  We either found spaces to rent, or someone would put something together at their house either in their living room or basement.  We also had the Evergreen State College and bands would set up in the dorms to play.  It was where people witnesses early performances by Nirvana, Screaming Trees, Fitz of Depression, and Bikini Kill.  It was so much fun.
 
Daniel M said:

PM is private message. I'll sen you a note, John.

I'm not working on a book that is a listing of places (akin to BYOFL or DODIY). Instead, this will be more narrative-focused. If you've read Stephen Duncomb's book about fanzines, that could be somewhat similar or the My First Show book.

PM is private message. I'll sen you a note, John.

I'm not working on a book that is a listing of places (akin to BYOFL or DODIY). Instead, this will be more narrative-focused. If you've read Stephen Duncomb's book about fanzines, that could be somewhat similar or the My First Show book.

Hey, thanks Rod, I'd forgotten about that thing. Just looked it up:

Book Your Own Fuckin' Life

Private message as opposed to writing out your answer here in public.

An actual book?  I don't know...in this day and age, I think you're better off just making an internet site with a data base as DIY houses and spaces can change constantly.  I don't even think BOOK YOUR OWN LIFE makes a print format any more.  It started becoming a waste of paper as they had to change it every year.
 
John Battles said:

Sorry , I slept about six hours last night , but , to "PM" , what does that mean? I'm sure I'm the only person who was'nt familiar with that expression.  But , I've played at several house gigs , going back to the mid - 80's, long before it was the cool thing to do , and you still , invariably , would get shut down by the cops , while the Frat party next door was going three times as loud , all night. I'd be interested in helping you , if I can.

my two-year-old and I are jamming the new Ty Segall album right now. He's playing pretend guitar along with it on a frying pan. We both give it a thumbs up.

Johnny Throttle - Sick Of Myself - 2010

Great list! I recognize quite a few of those.  I'll see if I can find those during the week.  Thanks.
 
MikeL said:

Here are a few of my choices...

"Forget about the Day" and "Confidential" by Manda and the Marbles. Those songs were released in 2002 and 2004 respectively

"Running with the Wasters" and "Never Been So Sick" by the Takeover UK. Both songs were released in 2009.

"Phantom Channel" and "Married in my Underwear" by the Science Fiction Idols. Both songs were released in 2003.

"Shine" by the Cynics, released in 2002.

"Rock'n'Roll Babe" by the Cocktail Slippers, released in 2003.

"Ain't So Cool" by Les Hell on Heels, released in 2004.

"Casino" by the Gore Gore Girls, released in 2005.

"Top Down" by the Charms, released in 2002.

"Are You Ready For It" by the Holograms, released in 2005.

"Dream" by the Charms, released in 2005.

"Cold Hard Bitch" by Jet, released in 2003. Yeah, I know Jet is not a garage band, but they are still a great rock'n'roll band nonetheless.

"Lets Have a Jam" by the Swingin' Neckbreakers, released in 2000.

"Black Girl" by the Paybacks, released in 2002.

"Sleepwalking" by the Paybacks, released in 2006.

"Soul Stripper" by Prima Donna, released in 2008.