Lets not forget what a useful forum this is for picking up on new sounds... I personaly read alot more of the forum than I post on... Just to get some juicy bands to pick up... I don't think theirs another forum on the web thats as good fer that!
January 16, 2009 11:16 AM CST
Lets not forget what a useful forum this is for picking up on new sounds... I personaly read alot more of the forum than I post on... Just to get some juicy bands to pick up... I don't think theirs another forum on the web thats as good fer that!
January 16, 2009 9:29 AM CST
Sumiji said:
Well, there are a couple of ways we can do this, Sumiji. We can set up a separate group for record reviews, then there'd be one place to go to read what people are saying about any particular release (and anyone could review anything they wanted). OR people can just post the reviews in the blog section of their pages... there are a lot of "review blogs" on the Web, why not have some here on the Hideout?Hey Kopper,
You know I would love to see more discussion on this network just because I hate searchin through the webfor countless hours looking for garage shit. I believe I recall a while ago someone mentioned about doing record reviews for GP. I think that a would be great for non stop discussion. Will that ever happen?
January 15, 2009 8:22 PM CST
The Branded said:
Hahahaha, yeah! If you wanna get the ball rolling. PICK A FIGHT. YOU'RE ALL POOPOO HEADS. Discuss!WOW that seemed to rattle a few cages.
January 15, 2009 4:41 PM CST
Yeah, Branded folk, when you really think about it this is THEE place to be if you want to congregate with like-minded folk. By no means am I saying that you shouldn't go and check out other forums; I occasionally look at 'em to see what interesting things folks may be saying. Most have a handful of members that suffer from a lower participation rate than was cited about The Hideout, and harbor a great deal of animosity toward one individual regarding the perceived demise of the beloved old forum. Of course we all know that the old forum was actually supercharged into the real community that we find ourselves in at this very moment! Old style forums don't work anymore. Oh, I know there are a handful of folk reading this that will say "forums were good enough for my dad, and they're good enough for me!" But, they aren't; especially if you have administered a self-hosted forum. SPAM up the arse!! Spambots from countries you've never heard of bombarding your forum everyday... even if you have it set to "must be approved by administrator", they still sign-up, and you have to delete them. But, I digress. The Internet model is now Social Networks like this; and they are where it's at! Just ask Facebook - the largest growing internet site in the world; over 150 Million users. Why do Social Networks work? Not only can I come to The Hideout and see practically everything I need: discussions, videos, new music, show dates (well... don't need those; I'm a curmudgeon), release dates, podcasts, etc., but I don't even have to come here to get it; it comes to me by way of RSS Feeds!! I see every general forum topic and blog post right from the comfort of my Google Reader. It comes to me to read at my leisure, just as the podcasts that I subscribe to come to me only to be consumed when I want to! BRILLIANT!! Anyway, I've gone too long. I hate to type; thus my lack in participation. I'll finish without completing my thought. Maybe that'll give me something else to post about. So I'll finish with a suggestion: Go to all the forums you can find and tell them to get hip and go to where the real action is... The Hideout, baby!
January 15, 2009 4:25 PM CST
Hey Kopper,
You know I would love to see more discussion on this network just because I hate searchin through the webfor countless hours looking for garage shit. I believe I recall a while ago someone mentioned about doing record reviews for GP. I think that a would be great for non stop discussion. Will that ever happen?
January 15, 2009 2:37 PM CST
Vagabonds said:
I really dig this idea ....the "Talkin' Trash" group does cover much of this ground already, but I wish it was on the "main" forum page with the General and Self-promotion sections as to get more o' the kids usin' itIt would be interesting to have a general section here that wasn't exactly all to do with music or the scene.
Just like a little area to post some funny threads or something like that would get people talking more
January 15, 2009 2:31 PM CST
It would be interesting to have a general section here that wasn't exactly all to do with music or the scene.
Just like a little area to post some funny threads or something like that would get people talking more
January 15, 2009 5:43 AM CST
WOW that seemed to rattle a few cages. Something actually worth reading on the forum ;-) But hey Kopper dont get me wrong I'm not bitchin about the Hideout, I think its a great idea, all I was wondering was where did everybody go from the old GP forum, but you have answered my question. And yes come to think of it, it did get pretty quiet in the last year. I only really use the forum here and ocassionlly the podcast, so it does seem a bit slow when the same posts have been up for days without any response, guess we shall see, hopefully it will pick up........
January 16, 2009 11:09 AM CST
Yeh that Norton Link Wray album is aces... But I think they run out of em... At least they had only a few left last time I ordered fer my record shop... They used to do em with free Link Wray plectrums! Thats a good garage guitar tip... LINK WRAY yer amp by punching holes in the speaker with a pencil... Instant trash!
January 16, 2009 10:28 AM CST
The Branded said:
what does it means "if you over cook the tube"???? so a good model is this so called "fender deville"?is it cheap or not??... get a OLD tube amp, not one of those new modern tube/hybrid things they stink. A good modern amp with an old sound is those fender deville's, used them many times at shows, if you over cook the tube bias a little they sound really raw and warm, (the distortion channel stinks though). Listen to some old 50's blues and rock'n'roll, learn a few chord progressions, speed it up to double, then your nearly there, instant garage-punk, it aint really rocket science.... and there aint no manual, you gotta play by ear!
January 16, 2009 8:37 AM CST
for the guitar sound I would say unlearn everything you already know (beer can help with this), buy a cheap 60's guitar, like a tiesco or silvertone, hofner or whatever you find cheap, get a OLD tube amp, not one of those new modern tube/hybrid things they stink. A good modern amp with an old sound is those fender deville's, used them many times at shows, if you over cook the tube bias a little they sound really raw and warm, (the distortion channel stinks though). Listen to some old 50's blues and rock'n'roll, learn a few chord progressions, speed it up to double, then your nearly there, instant garage-punk, it aint really rocket science.... and there aint no manual, you gotta play by ear!
January 16, 2009 8:29 AM CST
jailbird said:
for my home demos I use a wooden tambourine with the skin on one side, take a beater and bash the hell out of it, then stick it through a lot of compression add some reverb and voila, sounds tight raw and very trashy, I have also used the back of my acoustic guitar bash it like a bongo drum then add some compression and low bass, sounds like wooden bass drum, much like an old blues sound, give it a go.......On a similar note(and completely serious - disregard my joke above) - what are the best things to drum on for a home recording/bedroom 4 track setup that sound good and lo-fi(ala Jay Reatards bedroom recordings, etc)when you dont actually have drums and/or a drummer? Ive tried boxes and buckets, but if anyone knows of a better solution besides getting a drummer, lemme know. Thanx.
January 16, 2009 8:23 AM CST
uh, how could i forget mr. Bo Diddley. Good Save Kopp. check out his videos on youtube...
the Ventures is a little steep for beginners - even for me! But it will give you some good chops.
the Kinks, of course. "all day and all of the night." Billy Childish is good to watch. you can learn much just from watching him... "the genius of Billy Childish" you can find at some recordshops...
January 16, 2009 6:42 AM CST
"...the best link wrat record to start learning?and what about the kinks?"
A great Link Wray release to introduce yourself to the 'one-lung' master would be:
Link Wray & The Raymen - Mr. Guitar - Original Swan Recordings (1995) Norton Records Two CD set
These Kinks records are an absolute MUST:
Kinks - 1964 (first LP) - Pye
Kinda Kinks - 1965 - Pye
The Kinks Kontroversy - 1965 - Pye
Face To Face - 1966 - Pye
...And have a listen to Chuck Berry & Bo Diddley while yer at it. Have fun!
January 16, 2009 2:55 AM CST
One a them big cans of cooking oil you get (emptied of course) makes a good drum, backs of acoustic guitars or hard guitar cases, metal serving trays... Also you can pick up cheap plastic drums that sound alrite from yer local toy shop... I had a Disney set that cost 15pounds...
January 16, 2009 1:10 AM CST
For link wray i's say ' Commanche' and for the kinks ' You Really Got Me'
January 16, 2009 1:00 AM CST
the best link wrat record to start learning?and what about the kinks?
January 15, 2009 3:17 PM CST
I think they used cardboard boxes on early Buddy Holly recordings didn't they? jailbird said:
On a similar note(and completely serious - disregard my joke above) - what are the best things to drum on for a home recording/bedroom 4 track setup that sound good and lo-fi(ala Jay Reatards bedroom recordings, etc)when you dont actually have drums and/or a drummer? Ive tried boxes and buckets, but if anyone knows of a better solution besides getting a drummer, lemme know. Thanx.
January 15, 2009 11:56 AM CST
On a similar note(and completely serious - disregard my joke above) - what are the best things to drum on for a home recording/bedroom 4 track setup that sound good and lo-fi(ala Jay Reatards bedroom recordings, etc)when you dont actually have drums and/or a drummer? Ive tried boxes and buckets, but if anyone knows of a better solution besides getting a drummer, lemme know. Thanx.
January 15, 2009 10:22 AM CST
Start with the basics: Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Link Wray... that's all ya need to know. Get a good distortion pedal and make sure you're playing through a good old tube amp with some reverb. It's amazing how simple it actually is. It's when you start to try and make it sound perfect that it starts to sound like shit. Keep it raw!
January 15, 2009 9:35 AM CST
Sell the guitar and pick up Guitar hero. Cause those moving colored note thingys is actually how playing rock and roll looks. ;)
January 15, 2009 7:39 AM CST
LISTEN TO THE KINKS UNTIL YOUR EARS ARE BLEEDING!
January 15, 2009 6:35 AM CST
It's all about Link Wray, really.
January 16, 2009 10:12 AM CST
Anyone read this ultra-expansive and dizzyingly complete volume of how the punk movement got started and ended up influencing the so-called grunge explosion? I need to get the book before it - Babylon's Burning: Rough and Ready Rise of Punk 1973-1978 now, but Punk to Grunge was seriously informative and included everyone involved and their kitchen sink to boot. It is a massive tome(672 pgs), so only those with more than a passing interest might find it a good read(or try the library). Heylin covers the early Cleveland scene(yay! Clevo!), England, LA, NY, DC, Seattle and Aussie. I do wish that more European countries would have been covered or mentioned at least, but what the hey, this is some serious reading for anyone wanting to know how punk rock got kick started.
January 15, 2009 2:56 PM CST
Well I've got an audition with student radio to put on my own show. I'm pretty sure I'll get the gig but I've still gotta pass this damn interview which includes playing four songs. I'm pretty sure what I'm going to play but any suggestions would be pretty cool FOCUS: What songs would you recommend for me (its a mix of everything from punk, rockabilly to northern soul etc.) What would be your four songs that you would play on a fairly big radio show if you had the chance?
