Yeah , I'd say , as a concept album , it compares with "Ziggy Stardust"....Very similar storyline (In the movie.)....It seems like someone said , "What if we wrote a movie and album around a Female , Punk , version of Ziggy ?".....You know , a street urchin puts together a Punk band , says nothing will contaminate their purity .......Nothing but egos , drugs , politics , money , big labels and fans getting it all wrong by impersonating the singer , Siouxsie - style.  OK , I have'nt seen "Breaking Glass" in over 25 years , but , I remember  seeing it as a double feature with "Rude Boy" (Built on a similar concept , The Clash having to grapple with being called "Sellouts" before they'd even had a US hit or turned the guitars down drastically.) in '80 OR '81....I saw it again , later , on late night TV , but , have'nt seen a commercial copy , since. I remember liking the movie , though it only took me a few years to find the music a bit plastic - sounding . But, I have'nt heard the LP since I was in High School.   Hazel O'Connor was dating Hugh Cornwall around this time.....
 
Andy Climax said:

On the same bent then. Hazel O'connors fabulous 'Breaking Glass' would fit the mould. Sold as a movie soundtrack, its much more than that. It broke the mould for a lot of New wave bands over here. Taking the best parts from Devo and Talking Heads but giving it a very British feel. Phil Daniels who played Jimmy in the movie of Quadrophenia plays a great role (again). 

"David Comes to Life" and it's companion album "David's Town" both by Fucked Up.

On the same bent then. Hazel O'connors fabulous 'Breaking Glass' would fit the mould. Sold as a movie soundtrack, its much more than that. It broke the mould for a lot of New wave bands over here. Taking the best parts from Devo and Talking Heads but giving it a very British feel. Phil Daniels who played Jimmy in the movie of Quadrophenia plays a great role (again). 

Boy.....That's hard to say. I guess it's a "Rock Opera" as it's a Rock - oriented rendering of a Catholic mass. But , that was a new CONCEPT , before "God Rock'' and "Xian Punk" , etc. IN THE 70's , of course "Jesus Christ , Superstar" (W/Ian Gillan and Gary Glitter on the soundtrack LP.) AND "Godspell"'s success bridged the gap between the sacred and the secular, whether you liked 'em or not , making the world safe again for Jesus songs on the hit parade. The Electric Prunes (Tho' reportedly , their involvement was minimal.) deserve the credit , or , should I say , Dave Axelrod with James Lowe and one or two Electric Prunes, deserve credit for being there , first. IT'S BUILT ON A CONCEPT , I'D AGREE IT'S A CONCEPT ALBUM , IF (DEFINITELY) NOT A PUNK ALBUM......
 
Andy Climax said:

Does 'Mass in F Minor' the Electric Prunes count?

 

"SF Sorrow" , today , is considered the first Rock Opera , predating "Tommy" , but , it's (very) late release and poor promotion meant it was buried under the weight of Tommy , though it would have undoubtedly been overshadowed , much more , by another LP being recorded at Abbey Road at the same time , had it not been released so late... "Sgt. Pepper".

But , "SF Sorrow" , for it's lush vocal and instrumental arrangements , is still a Rock'n'Roll record , just one that pushed the envelope and succeeded (Artistically.) , like "Forever Changes " (Which you might say was a concept album. I'm not decided on that .) , or that OTHER album recorded , at the same time , at Abbey Road , "The Piper at The Gates of Dawn". You're probably right on the money re. "Odyssey" , though , I admit , I don't even own a copy. I only started listening to The Zombies again fairly recently.

I've always agreed an album that tells a story , like "SF Sorrow" or "Tommy" could be labelled a Concept album , but , sometimes an album is just about a concept. THEN  it gets to be meandering.....But that's a crime Punk Rock has been guilty of , too.

dave said:

No Punk LPs come to mind, but for 60s punk there is the Zombies Odyssey and Oracle and the Pretty Things SF Sorrow. I think one of the unofficial tenets of Punk was 3 minute songs and not too much to think about (not a put-down). Too much in the way of concept might get in the way of enjoying yourself (this is for Yank-style Punk fun, pre-hardcore [don'cha start me talkin]).

No Punk LPs come to mind, but for 60s punk there is the Zombies Odyssey and Oracle and the Pretty Things SF Sorrow. I think one of the unofficial tenets of Punk was 3 minute songs and not too much to think about (not a put-down). Too much in the way of concept might get in the way of enjoying yourself (this is for Yank-style Punk fun, pre-hardcore [don'cha start me talkin]).

Does 'Mass in F Minor' the Electric Prunes count?

THERE'VE BEEN PARODIES OF CONCEPT ALBUMS , PERFORMED BY PUNK , OR PASSING FOR PUNK BANDS....But , there's maybe a thin line between the "Concept Album" and the "Rock Opera " in the opinions of many....I've always thought there was , but , I could be dead wrong.

I'll have to think about that one.....There's got to be a few that fit the bill.

Hmmmmm.....I just discovered , well , not exactly , a band called Twisted Roots , which several of you might know about. They lasted about a year ('81) , and were made up of past and future Screamers , Germs and Black Flag members. I first heard them in 1986 , when a friend slapped their (Then) best - known song , "Snaked" onto an otherwise Garage / Psych mix tape. It sounded like early Blondie to me , only REALLY pissed off by comparison. The song had been on a Rodney on The Roq compilation. The comp I picked up was from 2004 , but , I seem to remember a similar one , way before that. Also , I saw an album by a solo act by the same name , an INXS /Simply Red LOOKING GUY.  Possibly related ? I FORGET.

Anyway , it's really experimental sometimes Punk/Sometimes Funk sounding riffs. Not unlike a more Punk - edged ESR or Red Krayola on their first comeback bid , or , even , sometimes , The United States of America (Which Mayo Thompson briefly joined.) , tho' it takes a dive into sheer atonality ,  on more than one occasion.  It's pretty interesting , with benefit of hindsight (Only four tracks saw release while the band was together.).

yeah, and those organ-tunes on top, remarkable! 

Jon S said:

I'm usually not a big hard rock fan, but I like the lo-fi sound, punk energy and b-movie image of Satan's Satyrs.

I'm usually not a big hard rock fan, but I like the lo-fi sound, punk energy and b-movie image of Satan's Satyrs.

It's not a household name to me , but , then , I live alone. Sure gives me faith in my own guitar skills. I like parts of it.

Andy Climax said:

These guys are probably household names wi you guys over the pond, but a friend just ailed me these guys new album. Never heard of them before. Lovely

Hey! I really like how they sounds!!! Thanx Andy! 
(reminds me of White Zombies or slow-moving Ministry)

Andy Climax said:

Debut album out next month. stunning live set. Enjoy!!!

...which could be pretty convenient on hard times! :)

Chris Henniker said:

Just got hold of a copy, which really is brilliant. I love every song on it. You don't need to drop acid for this one, as it is acid. ACcccccciiiiiiiid!

Tersicore said:

Chris, I owe you one!! 

This is the kind of shit a really like to discover now and again! :)
Is this the same band, really? Hard to believe!
AAAAAaacccccciiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddddd!  

 

Chris Henniker said:

How about some curried Goat, laced with Acid naturally? I heard them in Rough Trade while getting Mum & Dad's Christmas presents.

 

You know , I had the hardest time
getting my mind around that one..... I COULD'NT BELIEVE HE WAS SAYING THAT..... I knew Lux , and I never asked him about it. He was too busy talking about other people's music to explain his own. Now , I've forgotten what the Nova's version WAS saying. NO , WAIT ! IT WAS "RAAAAAIIIIIIIIID !!!!" , which was just a catch - phrase the real Crusher would use. Of course , it just sounded like somebody puking. I thought both versions started out with "READY !!!!!!" WHEN I FIRST HEARD 'EM. But , it was "RAID" , originally.

BUT , YOU REMINDED ME , THANK YOU , I WAS GOING TO MENTION THE CRAMPS ' VERSION OF "SHE SAID".......Which Lux sang with a styrofoam cup in his mouth (YUCK !) to emulate Hasil Adkins' vocal delivery ,making it hard to tell if he did know the real lyrics.....

"Looked at Me like a Dyin' box of those Thou - Thou cheese." (Hasil.)

'Looked at me like a Dinosaur about to jump out of the ice age" ( My interpreation of The Cramps' version.) .

"Looked at me like a Dinosaur about to jump out of the toilet seat " (One of guys in The Psycho Daisies told me that's how he heard The Cramps' version !).

Even Miriam said she thought Hasil was saying "It JUMPED OUT OF THE TOILET !" instead of "It jumped out of the bed" when she first heard the song.
Johnny Lurg said:

Lux Interior screaming "RAAAAAPE" at the beginning of The Cramps' cover of "The Crusher" is probably a reference to a mishearing of the original Novas recording.

Lux Interior screaming "RAAAAAPE" at the beginning of The Cramps' cover of "The Crusher" is probably a reference to a mishearing of the original Novas recording.

The April 28th Show!  Get it here: 

 http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20130428-0030-t13671...

The setlist: 

The April 21st 2013 show!  

Listen here: 
http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20130421-0030-t13665...

The Setlist: 

I just found this one. "Let's Stay in Bed All Day" by Daphne Lee Martin and Raise the Rent.

http://www.reverbnation.com/daphneleemartinraisetherent/song/10414613-lets-stay-in-bed-all-day

I just bought this movie via Amazon's video on demand, and I just noticed something horrifying about it...the main character looks a lot like the Boston Marathon bomber.

BTW, that movie never showed up at the Oaks.

MikeL said:

I had to go to a cinema located in a mall that's pretty out of the way for me, and I went during its opening weekend because I was afraid it wouldn't be playing there the following weekend. Now that I did that, it will probably show up at the Oaks Theatre, which is really close to where I live.

John Battles said:

Seems like it already came and went , here. We have ONE second - run theatre that I know of . Maybe they'll show it.

...and , I think it's "Kill a Mod". But , can a song be considered a Hate Crime ? At worst , I think a song that's actually about Hate Crimes could be interpreted , obviously , as Hate Crime propaganda , BUT , YOU  WOULD HAVE TO BE A NO - LIFE HAVING , WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT TO BEGIN WITH , TO ATTACK SOMEBODY FOR NOT DRESSING LIKE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS , IF YOU EVEN HAVE ANY , THEN HIDE BEHIND A SONG , SHOULD YOU GET CAUGHT....    
 
John Battles said:

you might have something , there.

Chris Henniker said:

I even wonder whether The Exploited would ever be prosecuted under the new proposals to treat assaults on subcultures as hate crimes for songs like "Kill A Mod". That would be ironic, as the Sophie Lancaster campaign was aimed at raising awareness of "alternative" cultures and calling for recognition of attacks on punks, goths, hippies , etch, as a hate crime.

you might have something , there.

Chris Henniker said:

I even wonder whether The Exploited would ever be prosecuted under the new proposals to treat assaults on subcultures as hate crimes for songs like "Kill A Mod". That would be ironic, as the Sophie Lancaster campaign was aimed at raising awareness of "alternative" cultures and calling for recognition of attacks on punks, goths, hippies , etch, as a hate crime.

OK , 5 tries , and I got it to play. Was'nt expecting a verbatim reading , in costume. I guess I expected to hear " Beethoven can't meet our standards  , because he's not yet been born !".      Kidding.  It's the deadpan nature of their delivery that makes this funny.
 
John Battles said:

I've seen the Grundy disection. It IS pretty funny. The Amish Sex Pistols thing registered as one second long. I'll try it again , later. OR.....could it be , since they were living as if it were 400 years ago , this could not exist? Sorry , that was lame. Kaiser George was in a band called The Scottish Sex Pistols ! I asked him if they performed "God Save The Queen" as "SCOTLAND THE BRAVE !! THEY MADE US ALL SLAVES!!". He said , "NO! But I wish we HAD !"
 
Andy Climax said:

Kevin Eldon's brilliant take on the Sex Pistols, Bill Grundy interview. Chris Morris couldnae have done it any better. Enjoy

I've seen the Grundy disection. It IS pretty funny. The Amish Sex Pistols thing registered as one second long. I'll try it again , later. OR.....could it be , since they were living as if it were 400 years ago , this could not exist? Sorry , that was lame. Kaiser George was in a band called The Scottish Sex Pistols ! I asked him if they performed "God Save The Queen" as "SCOTLAND THE BRAVE !! THEY MADE US ALL SLAVES!!". He said , "NO! But I wish we HAD !"
 
Andy Climax said:

Kevin Eldon's brilliant take on the Sex Pistols, Bill Grundy interview. Chris Morris couldnae have done it any better. Enjoy