Are you refering to the production of LONDON CALLING or their actual performance?  Because I think that record showed growth while not getting boring.

With that current Ramones thread going somewhere else, I think the best thing to say here is that they could have easily become stale if their 10th album sounded exactly like the first in terms of style.  Maybe a better term would be stagnant to clarify my definition of stale.
 
dave said:

Ya think so, Rod? I recently listened to London Calling again after 20 years, and I've gotta say it sounds stale and affected, while their 1st LP still sounds diamond-sharp. 

The Ramones could still tinker around with slight differences, but it was still essentially "Da Ramones Sound"...

Maybe it depends on the band, but I find that at 48 I still like the "young, snotty, and pissed-off" records. 

Popularity rubs the edges off a band's sound. The Strokes first album sounded great for about one listen, but after that it just seemed  too slick.

Ya think so, Rod? I recently listened to London Calling again after 20 years, and I've gotta say it sounds stale and affected, while their 1st LP still sounds diamond-sharp. 

The Ramones could still tinker around with slight differences, but it was still essentially "Da Ramones Sound"...

Maybe it depends on the band, but I find that at 48 I still like the "young, snotty, and pissed-off" records. 

Popularity rubs the edges off a band's sound. The Strokes first album sounded great for about one listen, but after that it just seemed  too slick.

Some groups staying true to something just so they don't get mainstream sounding sometimes becomes stale....The Clash may have stayed true to punk while their music changed.  It never really got mainstream sounding but it got boring.  However, it never got stale.

I think the word "rebellious" hits it right on the head.  Music that tries to push forward and stir things up.  That tries to rise above what has become ordinary and mainstream.  What was once rebellious becomes the normal.  It can still be good music, but no longer rebellious.  A lot of the pop-punk bands sound good and are exciting to hear, but are not really changing things.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

So how come we use the word "punk" instead of "rebellious" when that's what is implied?

 I HAVE'NT READ THEWHOLE THING , I CAUGHT THIS  AS I WAS GETTING READY TO TURN THE OLD IDIOT BOX OFF....But , it looks pretty funny. Someone went to a LOT of work to get their point across. Anyway , do that many Garage Bands  really think they belong on Wikipedia when they have following of , oh , let's be kind , less than 1000 people? There have got to be a number of Garage Bands , past and present , that are pretty big in our world(s) , but , they're not whining if they have'nt yet rated a mention in Wikipedia.

that's awesome

This IS funny. But seriously, it's what happens with an open user interface. And it should happen. And it will keep happening because if everybody exercised self control the world would be a really sterile and boring place.

Hilarious !

"How do I know if anyone cares about my band? A good rule of thumb is: they don't."

Hahahah!!

Ohh, it's painful cause it's true.

That's gotta be me favorite Wikipedia article ever!!

i laughed

Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers.

Find it pretty amusing and accurate in fact ! ;)

     I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN , BUT , I WAS ALWAYS GLAD TO PLUNK DOWN MY CHANGE TO GO SEE THE RAMONES IN THE LAST 12 YEARS OF THEIR EXISTENCE , BECAUSE , WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A PITIFUL FEW (CRAMPS , IGGY , MOTORHEAD , e.g.), THE COMPETITION WAS'NT SAYIN' NUTHIN FROM WHERE I STOOD. The only "Bad" show I ever saw 'em do was their last gig in Chicago ( Barring Lollapalooza.). But , the monitors were shot , and you could tell they could'nt hear each other, half the time. That , and people throwing piles of plastic cups at the band did'nt help. I don't care if it was the worst show of their career , which it was'nt , you respected The Ramones , or you exercised the right to take your lame ass out the exit doors.

Good point!  That's also where all the 90's Ramones clone bands got it wrong too (well that, and everything else).

Rev. Norb said:

The shark-jump with regards to live performances definitely has to do with when Marky returned and changed his style. If you watch him play circa 1980, his usual beat sounds like this: BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a ((like the "End of the Century" version of "Rock & Roll High School)). Sometime in the late 80's ((i'm assuming it's when he re-replaced Elvis/Richie, but i can't be sure)), he just started going SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA a million miles an hour on the hi-hat and snare and it sounded like shit. Feel free to quote me on this.

The Pygmies said:

I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

The shark-jump with regards to live performances definitely has to do with when Marky returned and changed his style. If you watch him play circa 1980, his usual beat sounds like this: BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a ((like the "End of the Century" version of "Rock & Roll High School)). Sometime in the late 80's ((i'm assuming it's when he re-replaced Elvis/Richie, but i can't be sure)), he just started going SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA a million miles an hour on the hi-hat and snare and it sounded like shit. Feel free to quote me on this.

The Pygmies said:

I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

The Hoff "Hooked On A Feelin"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8

Damn, The Sonics are hard to beat. I'd probably second that. While it's not necessarily representative of the garage sound, Black Monk Time by the Monks is a straight up killer album. I Know You Fine, But How You Doin' by the Gories is also a personal favorite. 

Ever since I was 8-the perfect little pop song:

It's Cold Outside- The Choir

And this SuperElectro 7"
by The Fall-Outs
Sleep b/w It's A Shame, Talk

This one gets the most regular spins around my house.

Underdog by Sly and the family stone 

Liars liars by the castaways

After obsessing over the hilarity of this vid, I finally found the single at the bottom of a crate at the local record shop. Only 3 bucks!

Great find! I agree that the sleeve tends to add the most novelty to a 7" but theres not much fun in looking at a record if you aren't gonna spin it!

Here's a new one I picked up recently. You can only get it on their tour though (at least for the time being). DZ Deathrays have the B-side.

Honoured and thrilled to be part of this comp!!!