In all honesty, I liked the previous site a lot better and I was more inclined to interact there more often.
In all honesty, I liked the previous site a lot better and I was more inclined to interact there more often.
Would you say that the previous site we were using was better and/or people used it more? I guess I am looking for a comparison. Would you say that this host was better, comparable, or worse than that last place that hosted it?
I've been trying to figure out ways to try and lure people back to the Hideout so they actually start using it again, otherwise it seems kind of pointless to keep this site and continue paying for hosting and upgrades and deal with keep it all maintained and running smoothly. It's SO difficult to get people off of other sites like Facebook and Twitter and come use this place. So I thought I'd ask anyone out there amongst you who IS checking in and reading this site from time to time... What do you think we need to do to bring some traffic here? We have the Hideout Comps and the GPPR podcasts, and those obviously attract some people, but what more can we do? We've been trying to utilize our Facebook page, where we have an astounding 37,000+ likes and followers (compared to only a little more than 8,000 actual members here, and most of those are MIA), thinking that promoting this forum, our FREE Classifieds section, dirt-cheap ad rates, etc., but nothing seems to work to get people to come here and check in regularly enough to keep it alive.
So yeah, any thoughts on this subject are appreciated.
Thanks,
kopper
I picked it up about a year ago , when it came out. The review is right on the money.
I didn't realize it was a show I already had , but I only had it on a cassette that Wax Trax in Chicago used to sell in the 80's. It is a great show , and the sound is great , so I was glad to get it on vinyl , plus the packaging is superb....The demos , I already had , too , but , it was a fine way to fill out two LPs.
I don't know that it's their best , but , I'm sure it's way up there.... Itwas a live radio broadcast , which accounts for the above - average sound.
Anyone got this yet? Thinkin' of picking it up... Here's a review from Slovenly.com:
Double-lp set of 21 songs, including an incredible 13-song live set recorded in 1979 with professional mixes for WPIX-FM NYC with full sonic assault! Probably the best Cramps live performance and recording ever, with Bryan & Ivy's guitars complimenting each other most brilliantly, Nick Knox's drumming is superb, and Lux providing great vocals and between-song banter. The version of "Human Fly" is like an a-bomb exploding in your living room! The top-quality sound on the 8 demos that complete this swank double LP have previously appeared on 1 or 2 reissues with inferior sound quality so get ready to hear them properly. Very de-LUX foldout gatefold sleeve filled with over 20 unknown photos from 1977-1979 plus 2 great interviews from early & obscure magazines. Club 57, NYC - 1979 - LIVE: 1. MYSTERY PLANE 2. DOMINO 3. TWIST AND SHOUT 4. WEEKEND ON MARS 5. VOODOO IDOL 6. ZOMBIE DANCE 7. ROCKIN’ BONES 8. HUMAN FLY 9. GARBAGEMAN 10. I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF 11. SUNGLASSES AFTER DARK 12. T.V. SET 13. THE WAY I WALK. Studio demos - JUNE 1977: 14. LOVE ME 15. I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF 16. SUNGLASSES AFTER DARK 17. T.V. SET 18. WHAT’S BEHIND THE MASK. Studio demos - FEBRUARY 1979: 19. TWIST and SHOUT 20. ROCKIN’ BONES 21. MAD DADDY. (Moonlight)
Hey all you Farfisa combo compact owners Can anybody help me out with a few photos? I just scored a combo compact that a mouse was living in,it went and chewed on some wires and I need help putting it back together,I have wiring diagrams I just need some photos of the main board that all the tabs are located on.If anyone could help me out that would be Awsome!!!
This week's show pits legendary bands from L.A. and NYC for a rock and roll Stanley Cup thrown down! Listen to it here: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20140615-0000-t1402786800.mp3
The setlist:
richard hell and the voidoids- blank generation
mink de ville- spanish stroll
mumps- crocodile tears
the heartbreakers (johnny thunders &)- born to lose
velvet underground and nico- sunday morning
new york dolls- private world
the dictators- faster and louder
crystal stilts- darken the door
the ramones- my back pages
the ramones- can't seem to make you mine
the standells- medication
love- the red telephone
the beach boys- with me tonight
the beach boys- three blind mice
frank zappa- apostrophe
the seeds- lose your mind
spirit- when i touch you
the g.t.o.'s - do me in once and i'll be sad, do me in twice and i'll know better (circular circulation)
the music machine- double yellow line
davie allan & the arrows- grungy
fear- lost in los angeles
the ramones- 7 and 7 is (song by arthur lee and love)
black flag- louie louie
This week on The Trip! Things really do go better with Coke! Listen here: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20140608-0000-t1402182000.mp3
The setlist!
THE CREEPS - DOWN AT THE NIGHTCLUB
THE ARGONS - DO THE DOG
TONY RANDALL - THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE
JERRY DALLMAN & THE KNIGHTCAPS- THE BUG
THE MODS - I GIVE YOU AN INCH
PETULA CLARK - THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE
THE PAGANS - BABA YAGA
THE TROGGS - COKE SPOT
SALTY HOLMES - THE GHOST SONG
GROTESQUE MOMMIES - ONE NIGHT STAND
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART - ABBA ZABBA
EASY BEATS - COKE SPOT
3 ACES AND A JOKER- BOOZE PARTY
THE RUNABOUTS - WHEN I GET THE BLUES
THE WHO - COKE AFTER COKE
DUKES OF HAMBURG - ROSALYN
JACK WEBB- THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE
THE EARTHBOYS - SPACE GIRL
THE PREMIERS - FARMER JOHN
DAVE DEE, DOZY, BEAKY, MITCH & TICH- COKE SPOT
THE BIKINIS - BOOGIE ROCK AND ROLL
BILLY THORPE & THE AZTECS - THINGS GO BETTER WITH COKE
THE DEL-MONAS - PETER GUNN LOCOMOTION
THE SUPREMES - COKE AD
JAN & DEAN - COKE AD
POLKA DOT SLIM - A THING YOU GOTTA FACE
PURPLE HAZE - ALT TAKE
MARK & THE ESCORTS - GET YOUR BABY
THE SEEKERS - COKE SPOT
TAKESHI TERUACHI & THE BLUE JEANS - YAGI BUSHI
DAVEY DAY - MOTORCYCLE MIKE
FABULOUS MCLEVERTYS - BLAME IT ON ELVIS
Just a week left to go! Get those songs in!!
Here is last week's episode of Revolution Rock featuring music from The Standells, The Churls, Cousins, The Ghost Wolves, Mac DeMarco, Husker Du, The Users, Iggy Pop and more.
The Playlist:
1. The Standells - Dirty Water (Live University of Michigan, October 22nd, 1966)
2. The Churls - Trying To Get You Off My Mind
3. The Spectres - I Never Had A Love Like That
4. False Poets - Call The Doctor
5. Husker Du - Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill
6. Ought - Habit
7. Doug Gillard - Upper Hand
8. The Birthday Party - The Dim Locator
9. Joy Division - Interzone
10. Invasions - Black Lagoon
11. Vaguess - Shadow People
12. Seven Story Redhead - Shake It Out!
13. Cellos - White Swans
14. The Walkmen - The Rat
15. The Shilohs - Queen Light Queen Dark
16. The Ghost Wolves - Shotgun Pistol Grip
17. Cold Warps - Dream Creepin’
18. Mac DeMarco - Passing Out The Pieces
19. Spoon - Yougot Yr Cherry Bomb
20. The Users - Listen
21. Iggy Pop - I'm A Conservative
22. Actual Water - Brighton
23. The Stomach Mouths - Coming Back Alive
24. The White Stripes - Death Letter
25. Thee Oh Sees - Penetrating Eye
26. Cousins - Death Man
27. Sun Kil Moon - I Love My Dad
28. OFF! - I Won't Be A Casualty
29. Buzzcocks - Time’s Up
Download/listen to the podcast here: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/36-Revolution_Rock-20140614-1900-t1402768800.mp3
Check out my blog post on the band Cousins here: http://revrock.blogspot.ca/2014/06/cousins-halls-of-wickwire-show-513.html
Great stuff... Modernettes, Westerberg, Wanda Jackson.
Very enjoyable listen!
Radio What Wave Playlist June 19/2014
This show we go back to the first wave of Toronto punk/new wave combos with an emphasis on the artier side as we pay tribute to Steven Davey. Former member of The Dishes and The Everglades, both early influential bands at the very begining of what was to become a scene. Long before the testosterone and suburbanites invaded, Steven was creating a scene and gently pushing bands to form and get out of the rehearsal studio and onto the stage. Thanx for the push and encouragement!!!
1. Nihilist Spasm Band....This Is A Test...London Ontario's longest lasting art/punk band(???) who were around long before anything resembling new wave was even considered.
2. Keith Whittaker....Drink To Me...from the CD of the same name. This was Keith Whittakers last recordings. Assembled, recorded and guitar playing by Steven Davey, who was a good pal of Keith's prior to his passing. This was put together for the 10th anniversary of Keith's passing.
3. Keith Whittaker...Hungover You.... as above.
4. Keith Whittaker...Beef Stampede....as above.
5. The Dishes....Walky Talky.....from their Fashion Plates EP from 1977.
6. The Everglades....I'm In A Coma....from The Last Pogo LP from 1978. There's a movie of the same name that documents the Toronto and area punk/new wave scene in the late 70's. It was done by Colin Brunton who was there and comes highly recommended! Haven't seen it yet, but they did use a couple of my pics (with permission of course) in the movie.
7. The Dishes....Monopolies Are Made At Night....from the Fashion Plates EP. BTW, there is a Dishes compilation CD on Bullseye Records that's on my want list.
8. The Everglades....Rock'n'Roll Cliche...from The Last Pogo....this was the first Toronto compilation LP i bought way back when that really turned me on to some of the early Toronto bands!
9. The Diodes....DOA...from the Sony Greatest Hits CD that manager Ralph Alfonso compiled. Steven got The Diodes onto the stage and out of the rehearsal studio for their first show.
10. The Diodes...I'm In A Coma....from the Survivors LP from 1982. A Steven Davey tune that you heard earlier in the show.
11. The Diodes...Shape Of Things....from the Time Damage LP on Rave Up Records.This is the 1978 live to air as played on CHUM FM back in 1978. This was the first Toronto new wave band to actaully get airplay and accepted (well, somewhat) by the mainstream. A huge stepping stone for the Toronto scene!! Although rumour has it, this was only broadcast so that CHUM could do a similar event with Elvis Costello.
12. The Viletones....Possiblities....from their 1977 7" EP.
13. The Viletones....Rebel....as above and written by Steven Davey for the Viletones.
14. The Viletones....Never Feel Sad...from the OPM CD. This is 1977 recordings souped up by Peter Moore and Chris Spedding. Peter Moore was active on the London Ontario scene in the late 70's/early 80's recording bands and he also had a show here on CHRW. He went under the name Simon Less as he was kicked off the air occasionally for lack of professionalism (he said FUCK on the airwaves). One of the greatest shows ever on this station and he would sometimes play live recordings of local bands, some of which i taped and have used on shows several times.
15. Zoom....Massacre at Central High...from an early 7" and predates the shootings at high schools by a good 25 years. The members of Zoom went on to bands like The Viletones, Diodes, Secrets and others.
16. The Secrets....Suzie Peroxide....from the Teenage Rampage CD. This is members of The Viletones (without singer Steven Leckie) playing 60's style powerpop and doing an excellent job!! These guys were way ahead of the curve and didn't get the expected response.
17. The Curse....Shoeshine Boy....from their only 7" and the first all female Toronto punk/new wave combo. They took a lot of flack for this one, as it chronicles an incident that actually happened in Toronto. The Curse were the 3rd punk band to play sleepy London Ontario, the first being The Diodes and the next Eddie and the Hot Rods (although they are considered pubrock, but at the time we considered them punk).
18. B Girls...Boys Are Drinking....from the OPM CD, Who Says Girls Can't Rock. Produced by Mick Jones of The Clash, The B Girls were a band that coulda and shoulda but somehow didn't make it big. They had a record on Bomp Records, opened for The Clash on the east coast, one of them was the girlfriend of Stiv Bators (Dead Boys) and even had a London Ontario connection in Marcy Saddy on the drums.
19. The Cads....Do The Crabwalk...from the 7" EP of the same name from 1978.
20. The Scenics...O Boy....from the unreleased Last Pogo recordings from 1978. Artpunk at it's finest and way different than anything else happening in Toronto, yet welcomed into the punk/new wave scene. We had singer/guitarist/bassist Andy onair many years ago when they did their first reunion tour.
21. The Government...Hemingway Hated Disco....form their first 7" from 1979. Another band that didn't fit as they were heavily into video long before VCR's were available for the average home. A personal fave, didn't get to see these guys until late 1981 and by that time, they were a shadow of their glory days.
22. The Ugly....Streanded In The Laneway....from their lone 7". Way different from the chaos of their live shows, this is really good powerpop and not at all what you would expect The Ugly to record. If you want chaos, check out their OPM CD that has all that and more little girl.....right here on the floor.....
23. Cardboard Brains....Caesar Drives A Fast Car....from their 12" EP.
24. The Hi-Fi's....Look What You've Done....from their only 7", but there's rumours they recorded more back then, so if anyone can get me copies of those recordings, i have lots to trade. The Hi-Fi's went on to become the darlings of Canada's alt-country/pop as Blue Rodeo. Back in The Hi Fi days, they were an incredible band live and i caught them a few times at the Cedar and Larry's in Toronto.
Well that was a fun show, and once again, just the tip of the iceberg as there is so much good music from that era. Hope you enjoyed the show and thanx for listening and putting up with my screwups and mumbles.
And thanx for all the phone calls, emails, facebook messages and Heys!!!! And thanx to all the crazies that tune in every week while they do the dishes!!
See ya next week!
And here's a link to the podcast:
http://chrwradio.ca/programs/radio-what-wave
Night Beats.
They're absolutely fantastic.
Well, at least we still have Vimeo... for now.
I wish these articles listed more of their sources.
Anyway, it's not surprising. Maybe someday we will learn that nothing on the internet will stay free?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2014/06/18/youtube-is-about-to-delete-independent-artists-from-its-site/
I just read this and am wondering what the whole truth is:
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/06/17/youtube-not-going-remove-music-videos
Sounds like they just won't offer monetization for the indie ones?
" as a revenue source for the music industry,” Key words right there.
Well, this sucks. Fuck YouTube:
From http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/17/youtube-indie-labels-music-subscription
Starting internal tests of subscription service but faces accusation of 'catastrophic error of judgement'
Stuart Dredge and Dominic Rushe
theguardian.com, Tuesday 17 June 2014 10.03 EDT
Adele, Arctic Monkeys and Jack White could disappear from YouTube "in a matter of days" after the Google video service confirmed it was dropping content from independent labels that have not signed up for its upcoming subscription music service.
YouTube is about to begin testing the new service – which will charge people to watch and listen to music without ads, and download songs to their mobile devices – within the next few days, initially within Google.
The company's head of content and business operations, Robert Kyncl, told the Financial Times that the service – previously rumoured to be called YouTube Music Pass – will launch more widely later in the year.
His confirmation that YouTube will block videos from labels that do not sign licensing deals for the new premium tier will be hugely controversial among indie labels, with trade body WIN already filing a complaint to the European Commission about its negotiating strategy.
"While we wish that we had 100% success rate, we understand that is not likely an achievable goal and therefore it is our responsibility to our users and the industry to launch the enhanced music experience," said Kyncl, claiming that YouTube has signed up labels representing 90% of the music industry.
Independent labels are likely to disagree. Their licensing agency Merlin estimates that indies collectively account for a 32.6% market share of the recorded music industry's sales and streams.
Contacted by The Guardian following his comments, WIN's chief executive Alison Wenham was blunt in her response. "They have suffered a simple but catastrophic error of judgement in misreading the market," said Wenham, who had organised a press conference earlier in the month to protest at YouTube's plans.
WIN claims that the company has signed lucrative licensing deals with major labels Universal, Warner and Sony, while demanding that independent labels sign up to inferior terms or face having their videos blocked from YouTube's free service.
“Our goal is to continue making YouTube an amazing music experience, both as a global platform for fans and artists to connect, and as a revenue source for the music industry,” a Google spokesman said. He said the subscription-based service would bring new revenue streams “in addition to the hundreds of millions of dollars YouTube already generates for them each year. We are excited that hundreds of major and independent labels are already partnering with us.”
Wenham's criticism echoes a claim made at the event by musician Billy Bragg, who said "I don’t know why they’ve opened this hornet’s nest right now, apart from corporate hubris. I don’t think they realise what a stupid thing they’ve done."
The site has become a key promotional outlet for independent labels of all sizes in recent years.
YouTube attracts more than 1bn monthly viewers, with music one of its biggest categories. Its upcoming premium music subscription tier will compete with Spotify, Deezer and Napster among other services, including Apple-owned Beats Music and Google's own Google Play Music All Access.
Independent labels have long complained that they deserve more respect from digital music services negotiating licensing deals, and set up Merlin to strike deals on their behalf.
The agency has remained silent throughout the recent arguments about YouTube's planned new service, although its chief executive Charles Caldas criticised the company at an industry conference in late April.
Referring to an earlier quote from Bragg suggesting that musicians unhappy about royalties paid by Spotify should be "marching to YouTube central with flaming pitchforks", Caldas said: "I can’t say Billy’s right, but I can say that he’s not wrong."
The move comes as Amazon too has begun to flex its muscles in ways that limit the content its customers can receive. Amazon is delaying shipments and refused pre-orders for some titles from Hachette, publisher of Harry Potter author JK Rowling, and home to David Baldacci, Stephen Colbert, David Foster Wallace and others.
It has also pulled pre-orders for forthcoming Warner Home Video features, including international blockbuster The Lego Movie, 300: Rise of an Empire, Winter’s Tale and Transcendence.
• YouTube accused of strong-arming indie labels into poor deals
Voix de garage#28 Special We’re Back in Town! (11/06/2014)
*Jingle* Know Your Product / The Saints / Eternally Yours / 1978 / Australie (Brisbane)
Back In The USSR / Lemmy + John 5 + Eric Singer / Butchering The Beatles / 2006 / US
If I Can’t Come Back / Reigning Sound / Love and Curses / 2009 / USA, Memphis (In The Red Records)
What’s so new about you / The Fleshtones / Hexbreaker / 7th June 1983 / US (NYC)
Come Back D.A. / Lemonheads / Lick / 1988 / US (Boston)
She’s got everything / The Kinks / single B-side / 28/06/1968 / UK
*5' French talk*: the comebacks
Back To Your Heart / Dinosaur Jr / Beyond / 2007 / US (Amherst, MA)
Come back Baby / The Lords of Altamont / Lords take Altamont / 14/04/2014/ US (California)
*The quite moment*: Back in Baby’s Arms / Patsy Cline / The Patsy Cline Story / 1963 / USA, Virginia (Decca Records)
*The 60's Chapel*: Don’t look back / The Remains / single / 1966 / US (Boston)
The Line / Wonderflu / What’s Inside / 2014 / France (Paris)
Back To Mamie / Wonderflu / What’s Inside / 2014 / France (Paris)
*The Norway lesson*: Back to Dungaree High / Turbonegro / Live Köln (German TV program Rockpalast)/ 2005 / Norway
*The Glitter Moment*: Hello Hello / Forgotten Rebels (Gary Glitter cover) / This ain’t Hollywood / 1981 / Candada
Take me Back / King Khan & The BBQ Show / Éponyme / 2007 / USA (In The Red Records)
The Boys are Back in Town / Thin Lizzy / Jailbreak / 26/03/1976/ Ireland (Dublin)
*Must be played at MAXIMUM volume*: Back on the Streets / Thee Vicars / Back on the Streets / 2008 / UK
- Listen to the show: http://www.trensmissions.ens.fr/voix-de-garage-28/#sthash.KlSHbpQy.dpuf
The Volts ,Yes , Los Punk Rockers' LP is SO fucked up...It takes on new meaning as a Punk record.
It was , of course , a quickie cash - in ( Dazzlingly inept covers of the entire Sex Pistols LP.) like the great Exploitation LPs of The 60'S. But , even worse !!!! I say that lovingly. Gary Pig Gold said he mentioned a review I wrote of an unauthorized (Boo hoo.) reissue of teh album to John Lydon , whom , he said , was very interested in hearing it.
Lubricated Goat
Playlist 06/14/14
Legal Weapon Daddy's Gone Mad
Saints Lost and Found
Hex Dispensers Taxidermy Porno
Len Price 3 Billy Mason
Electric Mess Better to be Lucky Than Good
Motobunny Thinkin About Me
Norvins I Need Your Lovin'
Mystic Brew Don't Cry No More
Sonic Avenues Automatic
Bleeding Rainbow Time & Place
Thee Oh Sees Drop
Warm Soda Postcards
Trousers I Get Around
Cryptics Do The Trash
Lovesores Mission To Mars
Curse World Domination
Harmonica Lewinski Running Wild
Bad Beats It Breaks Me Down
Banditos The Losing Game
Fagettes My Girl Looks Like Johnny Thunders
Deathrays What It Means
Safes The Wide Open Sky
Micragirls Rock n Roll Rocket
Black Randy and the Metro Squad I Slept In An Arcade
99ers Godzilla's A Punk
Forty Nineteens Can't Let It Go
Me First and the Gimme Gimmes Top of the World
Redd Kross Stay Away From Downtown
Andy Smash She's Haunting
Porno Mags Not Free
Mighties The Seducer
ToughMF's Sweet Anneli
Ace Egil's Head-Ransom
Quity and the Don'ts All of You
Beach Party Geronimo
Dry Heeves The Creep
Bob Mould I Don't Know You Anymore
Sensible Gray Cells Tragic Roundabout
Godfathers Gone To Texas
I will be on the air and the web on Saturday June 14th playing the usual garage-punk trash. You can listen at 89.7 WITR-FM in Rochester, NY or streaming live at http://witr.rit.edu from 1:00-3:00PM EST.