I'm still convinced the marketing guys behind this just love the music (and the other guys at the company like  rap). If they were fans of hardcore we might have Scion sponsoring Sick of It All or Suicidal Tendencies, etc. This person probably started listening to this genre about 10 years ago. This probably accounts for the lack of mention of anything pre-dating 10 years ago.  So, they are naturally going to report on the current scene, but one whiff of this criticism and I am sure they would be on the phone with The Fleshtones or Cynics to give them cred.

The Hideout should send copies of the comp to Scion and get them introduced to how it's done on the reals.

We had our first Scion promoted garage type show this past weekend here in London Ontario...it was at a trendy club that we'd never set foot in.

There was a whole table of Scion merch that was free; ear buds, a Jack Oblivian/Mannequin Men split 7" and the first 2 ishes of their print zine. The zines are about 40 pages, 14 x 18 cm, and printed on fairly good quality mat paper with many colour pics inside. The content, not much that interested me, mainly arty type stuff and lots and lots of plugs for their cars, but that's to be expected. The only thing that interested me in the 2, was an interview w/Mannequin Men. Now inside the front cover are all of the Canadian contacts, so this may be a Canadian version of the zine.

There weren't any Scion reps that we noticed, just the bands sitting at the merch table selling their own stuff.

The people at the club didn't seem to be interested in any of the free merch...i helped myself, they were more interested in being seen and talking amongst themselves. The bands, The Fine Print (who i believe are on the hideout) are from London Ontario and rocked out with their usual early Kinks meets Zombies pop and roll, then there was another awful local combo, then Elk (from Hamilton, Welland and Toronto) put on a really tight Creation on speed type set and the evening closed with Young Rival (Hamilton mod/pop/garage combo) who we didn't catch as we left early.

Ah, alright. Don't know what to make of the download only option in this case. It's a fine thing for web based zines to have a way of publishing in a less costy and inexpensive way. But here, it's just another step in a weird direction. Like, "what what do you need to get this shit out to people? Yeah a zine would be great!"

kopper said:

Is it being printed at all? I thought it was just an online thing with a downloadable PDF so you can print it out yourself...

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Is it being printed at all? I thought it was just an online thing with a downloadable PDF so you can print it out yourself...

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Like with the other discussions circling Scion/Vice, I think it's basically good that bands like human eye are getting some money from this to waste on their own good stuff. There's a couple of people there that love what they do enough to keep killing it without Scion. Hex Dispenders and all, you know. Some others just seem to jump boat and pick up on whatever is making them a quick buck. But there's always that. As companies go, this will be a fleeting thing. Probably lasting until the next change in the marketing direction, or until this kind of thing doesn't bring back enough.

Concerning the zine: Since that's an integral part of it, I wonder about the whole get up of this in print? Will this be a high gloss affair like vice? Or will it be printed to look cheap and "edgy"? I guess the print run would be in the high mega thousands, which also kind of speaks against the whole zine sentiment. Sure, underground magazines have made it into the nationwide sales chart at times, but they climed their way up and didn't spam events and stores of all kinds and have yet another outlet to sell ads and stuff. This would probably be better titled as a "Rolling Stone with different graphics."

I'm putting together my own little zine right now and I wanna make the layouts from clippings and with Cut an Paste methods, but what do the Veteran zine makers on the hideout say to this Scion mag? WhatWave Dave? ...I know there are other zines with profiles here, but I'm just to dumb to remember now...

Downloadable PDF format or read it online:

http://www.scionav.com/music/scionzines/index.html#general2,?zineid=51151

It's pretty much what you'd expect. Lots of articles on (or interviews with) the bands they're working with/supporting. It's not that any of it is bad, per se, but this Scion thing is just starting to get really predictable. And the focus seems to all be about the modern, cutting-edge "garage" bands (most of whom would probably like to shy away from that moniker if they could) with very little if any mention of the great garage rock & punk stuff of the past.

Thoughts?

By the way, I sent Christopher Roberts at Vice Records an interview over three months ago asking him a bunch of questions about Vice and Scion and the whole "garage" marketing scheme... he never replied (and I've resent it to him several times). I just reminded him again. Maybe he'll answer it this time, who knows. I guess if he doesn't answer them I could always just post it here and we could make up our own answers. Heh.

Hell yeah.....I would have added Shake Some Action by the Groovies 2:):):)

Killer play list ...

Murder City Nights #4 - It'll chew you up, spit you out, and leave you begging for more.
Featuring rad shit from the Hip Priests, the Phantom Limbs, Oblivians, Sonic Negroes and more!



SET LIST:

• Li'l Boys Play With Dolls - The Lords of the New Church
• Whips and Spurs - Sonic Negroes
• Bad Attitude - Testors
• What's What - The Riverboat Gamblers
• I Want You So Hard (Boys Bad News) - Eagles Of Death Metal
• Getting Hit On At The Bank - The Briefs
• Kill Someone You Hate - Redd Kross
• League By Herself - Consultants
• Uncontrollable Urge - D.I.
• Pony Dress - The Flesh Eaters
• Hot Knives and Hornets - The Phantom Limbs
• Lexicon Devil - The Germs
• XOX - Hot Snakes
• Born in '69 - Rocket From the Crypt
• Let´s Get Fucked - The Hip Priests
• Feel Free - Cheater Slicks
• Earthshaker, Yeah! - The Revelators
• You Fucked Me Up, You Put Me Down - Oblivians
• School Is for Donkeys - Will Crum
• She Said Yeah - The Rip Offs
• To Find Out - The Keggs
• Thee Most Exalted Potentate of Love - The Cramps
• Teenage Head - The Flamin' Groovies

oh yeah Jim Jones is awesome! we played a show with them in Hollywood and they were awesome!

hey! Thanx for the heads up. Im-a go check 'em out. If we hear of anything cool  we'll post it as well. Its definielty a genre that could  use a little fire under it. Such a great combo Punk and Blues. Makes for some cool interesting music with vibe and  sonic bliss. Hopefully more bands out there will explore and create their own versions of songs or write their own in that vein. know of any  good comps for Punk  Blues that you could recommend?

Not dead.  Sleepin'.

Chicago's Tijuana Hercules was a really cool trash-blues-punk group. http://www.myspace.com/tijuanahercules

Agreed: there are a lot of bluespunk bands slithering around out there, they are just not at the top of the heap these days and don't get a lot of attention (unless you're talking White Stripes, Black Keys, etc.) Has anybody heard of The Immortal Lee County Killers II from Alabama? I play in a bluespunk two-piece called Las Drogas (based out of Ypsilanti, MI - near Ann Arbor and Detroit) We play a mixture of garage, blues, rockabilly, 50s/60s rock, punk. www.myspace.com/lasdrogasrock http://www.facebook.com/pages/Las-Drogas/136540006382577 Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwOsTEsmLU Jon Spencer Blues Explosion had some good stuff, so did Fat Possum Records

Is "Garage Beat '66" considered a standard yet? That series and "Back from the Grave" get the best stuff out. 

"Psychedelic States" is hit or miss, and for whatever reason, whenever I find them in a shop, the discs are in really shit quality, even if they're still wrapped.

"Don't Press Your Luck: The In-Sound from Connecticut" and "We're Gonna Change the World!" are my two favorite regionals. I hate to sound like a Sundazed fanboy, but hell, I am. Oh well. 

Oh! "Ft. Worth Teen Scene!" Classics, all!

some i could think if now...

Gravel Comps

Return of the Young Pennsylvanians / Pennsylvania Unknowns

Quagmire Comps

Ikon Story

Texas Flashbacks

GYRO1966 comps!!!!

I(Axel) went 1999, after having seen the video of an earlier one(1994 I think). It was my first trip to the dirty south and that place, at least Local 506, really deserved the name. Tits, beer, booze, sweat and rock'n'roll. I have picture proof of all that. I went alone, all the way from Germany, but made friends fast, esp. Leo from the Cowslingers(who played) and his wife Jen. I was excited to get to see the Woggles finally and Nashville Pussy. Other great bands, which I had never heard of before, were Jack Black(HRW Dave's band), Twin 6(reminded me a lot on Turbonegro) and Helldorado from NYC. It was a great festival and, along with both Heavy Rebel Weekenders I went to(2 & 3), probably the best one I have been to up to this day. It's hard to believe it took place in such a small bar...I had been to Treblefest, Denver, the year before. Great line-up(Hate Bombs, Swingin' Neckbreakers, Fleshtones, Vendettas with sexy Buffy, Quadrajets, Mullens...) but the atmosphere was not nearly as 'hot' as at Sleazefest.

Oh wow! If you could post that vid that would be great! I know there was a documentary on the very first one (it's broken up in parts)...Anything you can dig up (including your other stuff) would be great material for us needy garageheads on here!

Blair said:

BTW, somewhere around here, I have the video from one of the Sleazefests.  I'll have to dig it up again.

So, something that I've been kicking around in my head for awhile, ever since I found out my old drummer was moving away -- and seeing the absolute stone cold bitch it is to try and find a new one -- is the idea of stripping it back to just two guys, a guitarist(me) and a bass player, sharing vocals, and having the bass hold down the rhythm and the low end(with, obviously, some rhythm guitar mixed in). Obviously, anything can work given the right mix of people, talent, and music, but I was wondering if anybody had tried this, had any suggestions; pitfalls I should look out for, things like that?

My blog: Bleedin Out

Punk rock, garage rock, omfug

Nice! The cut-up! Keith Richards talks about doing that on one of the tunes on Exile.

Did anyone mention Forbidden Dimension or any other Jackson Phibes' stuff? He's a Canadian that totally rips: punky, smart, fun, technically literate, sings about goth/horror stuff non-stop, and even wears make-up and other horror costume/goth get-up. Check it out: http://forbiddendimension.exophagy.com/main.html