The good news I see from reading lots of the posts is that five year period had TONS of great music. Lots of opinions and lots of great records!!!!!!!!! Lenny Helsing said:

Yeah cool Matt, that very Neil Young LP fits the bill, and though not regarded as punk stuff like Tonight's The Night can fit the bill...well if the Fun Club can be punk then so can Neil Young and The Electric Prunes and The Crawdaddys and The Chesterfield Kings...yeah I love the Dolls and Heartbreakers too...I guess even stuff like the early Wipers counts too right? But when you start getting into Gun Club territory then well the 'Mary Chain and early Shop Assistants and the like gotta be included too, and then it's just a hop skip and spit to the newer garage 60s fiends like The Tell-Tale Hearts and while I'd never cite them as punk, unless we mean 60s garage punk R&B-fixated stuff, they are way more true soul of what punk was is and ever should be...than a million others that some folks bring into the picture...but Hey ain't it true that's all just opinions...and we all have them...C'est la vie poonk luvvers

MATT GALLUCCI said:

The Ramones got me started down the path, so those first 4-5 records that fit the '76-'80 time frame are my favs. Really off the wall, but if you crank the electric tunes you might agree (or not), but Live Rust by Neil Young I think fits. I know, I know, the extended guitar parts don't fit the mold, but punk music isn't about fitting a mold, it's about energy!!! And Neil had it during that period. Live, none better!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Add to my list The New York Dolls and anything solo from its band members. Real Sex and Drugs and R & R!!!!!!!!

That's my record collection!!!! :O) Gringo Starr said:

My list without The Clash, The Sex Pistols or The Specials would be uninformed at best and stupid at the very least. Whatever your personal tastes may be, English bands of this era played a huge part in the vast scheme of things + dismissing the 2 Tone thing is just not right. Once again:

Nuggets: Original Artyfacts From the First Psychedelic Era 1972
New York Dolls 1973
The Dictators Go Girl Crazy! 1975
Patti Smith Horses 1975
Ramones 1976
Dead Boys Young Loud And Snotty 1977
Television Marquee Moon 1977
Suicide 1977
Damned, Damned, Damned 1977
The Saints I'm Stranded 1977
Never Mind the Bullocks Here's the Sex Pistols 1977
The Clash 1977
The Jam This Is the Modern World 1977
Can't Stand The Rezillos 1978
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo 1978
X Ray Specs Germ Free Adolescents 1978
Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts 1978
The Undertones 1979
The Specials 1979
The Buzzcocks Singles Going Steady 1979
Dawn Of The Dickies 1979
The Crawdaddys Crawdaddy Express 1979
The Cramps Songs The Lord Taught Us 1980
X Los Angeles 1980
Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables 1980
Talking 'bout Thee Milkshakes 1981
The Gun Club Fire of Love 1981

Zoe von Doll said:

I like your list without the Clash, Sex Pistols, Specials...saw you mention the Bags somewhere too...izza goed.

Gringo Starr said:

This thread just won't die -- So for all of you that missed it, here is my list previously posted on page 3 (I think):

Nuggets: Original Artyfacts From the First Psychedelic Era 1972
New York Dolls 1973
The Dictators Go Girl Crazy! 1975
Patti Smith Horses 1975
Ramones 1976
Dead Boys Young Loud And Snotty 1977
Television Marquee Moon 1977
Suicide 1977
Damned, Damned, Damned 1977
The Saints I'm Stranded 1977
Never Mind the Bullocks Here's the Sex Pistols 1977
The Clash 1977
The Jam This Is the Modern World 1977
Can't Stand The Rezillos 1978
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo 1978
X Ray Specs Germ Free Adolescents 1978
The Undertones 1979
The Specials 1979
The Buzzcocks Singles Going Steady 1979
Dawn Of The Dickies 1979
The Crawdaddys Crawdaddy Express 1979
The Cramps Songs The Lord Taught Us 1980
X Los Angeles 1980
Dead Kennedys Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables 1980
Talking 'bout Thee Milkshakes 1981
The Gun Club Fire of Love 1981

Yeah cool Matt, that very Neil Young LP fits the bill, and though not regarded as punk stuff like Tonight's The Night can fit the bill...well if the Fun Club can be punk then so can Neil Young and The Electric Prunes and The Crawdaddys and The Chesterfield Kings...yeah I love the Dolls and Heartbreakers too...I guess even stuff like the early Wipers counts too right? But when you start getting into Gun Club territory then well the 'Mary Chain and early Shop Assistants and the like gotta be included too, and then it's just a hop skip and spit to the newer garage 60s fiends like The Tell-Tale Hearts and while I'd never cite them as punk, unless we mean 60s garage punk R&B-fixated stuff, they are way more true soul of what punk was is and ever should be...than a million others that some folks bring into the picture...but Hey ain't it true that's all just opinions...and we all have them...C'est la vie poonk luvvers MATT GALLUCCI said:

The Ramones got me started down the path, so those first 4-5 records that fit the '76-'80 time frame are my favs. Really off the wall, but if you crank the electric tunes you might agree (or not), but Live Rust by Neil Young I think fits. I know, I know, the extended guitar parts don't fit the mold, but punk music isn't about fitting a mold, it's about energy!!! And Neil had it during that period. Live, none better!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Add to my list The New York Dolls and anything solo from its band members. Real Sex and Drugs and R & R!!!!!!!!

au contraire friend, yes you are entitled to your opinion but it ain't mine dat for sure...you simply cannot deny the genius present in the first Damned LP, also first two Saints LPs, Johnny Moped, Wire, The Adverts, Eater and at least the first 4 Ramones LPs...The Gun Who? Ivy Wha? PAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oooo that'll get some ears flappin eh, ha ha... Eastwood said:

Theres only really... the first Ramones record... The Adolescents First record... The Gun Club's First album....
yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh... The Ivy Green LP too

The Ramones got me started down the path, so those first 4-5 records that fit the '76-'80 time frame are my favs. Really off the wall, but if you crank the electric tunes you might agree (or not), but Live Rust by Neil Young I think fits. I know, I know, the extended guitar parts don't fit the mold, but punk music isn't about fitting a mold, it's about energy!!! And Neil had it during that period. Live, none better!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Add to my list The New York Dolls and anything solo from its band members. Real Sex and Drugs and R & R!!!!!!!!

The Damned and The Saints LPs RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lachlan William Richardson said:

There was some pretty brilliant albums released in that time frame, favourites, that I can't put in order:

Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - LAMF
Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Ramones - Rocket To Russia

Never really dug the Clash that much...

The thing is, even those of us who professed to be real proper punks got pretty wrapped up in the whole image of being a punk, and that was our faashion for better or worse, whether it was ripped and torn shirts, or home-made bondage gear; straps and D rings everywhere, not to mention a whole heap of zips everywhere. Great for those of us who couldn't afford to go to any of the London boutiques or send off £££ to these outlets advertised in NME. Oh yeah I did send off once for a pair of their cheap n nasty PVC trousers to go with my blue suede brothel creepers. Mind you all that attention seeking fall out from the punk fashion had its obvious drawbacks, like walking back from a late night gig or something... Lenny Helsing said:

Yeah Andy I know what you mean but nonetheless Punk was turned into a fashion thing for lots of folks through some heavy media presence, including some utter rubbish printed in the likes of the Daily Mirror in summer of '77 including an article showing Ten Easy Steps On How To Be A Punk Rocker, and ludicrous stuff like that...and then of course all the teenie magazines of the time who were covering all the previous pop, and glam groups earlier on in the 70s began to feature loads of punk groups posing in all their finery too...so like it or not, fashion did indeed play its part in the punk rock scene, for better or worse... take it from someone who was very much there at the time, even if, admittedly, I wasn't right there at the very dawn of it all. But in around '77-'80 I saw the likes of The Buzzcocks, The Clash with Suicide, The Jam, The Damned with The Dead Boys, The Radiators From Space (supporting Thin Lizzy), Siouxsie and the Banshees with Spizz Oil, Adam and the Ants, 999, Dr Feelgood with Mink Deville, The Cure, Ultravox, The Slits, Subway Sect, Magazine and Bauhaus, The Fall with The Cramps, The Monochrome Set...not to mention some of our very own Scottish groups like Matt Vinyl and The Decorators, the Scars, TV Art (soon to become Josef K), the Dirty Reds (soon to become the Fire Engines), and of course The Skids, Bee Bee Cee, The Prats and a whole heap more too...

Andy Climax said:

Oi! Punk etc. All the same moniker really. Just a reaction to the shit that was happening in Britain at the time. I believe the same shit was happening in New York and Detroit at the same time. Oi! was born of the skinhead/suedehead movement, and was more racially motivated. The skinheads came directly from the old punks who were totally disillusioned with the commercial crap that the clash and the pistols etc were eventually comin out with. So its all punk really. Like the hippy thing in the 50's and 60's, punk was'nt and is'nt a fashion thing, its a way of life and thinking

Theres only really... the first Ramones record... The Adolescents First record... The Gun Club's First album....
yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh... The Ivy Green LP too

What's not to like about that first Clash LP...pure garage punk of its time...and quite marvellous on stage too, yeah...but aside from the odd few cuts throughout their career, none of their other LPs even came close to that barrage of cool... Lachlan William Richardson said:

There was some pretty brilliant albums released in that time frame, favourites, that I can't put in order:

Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - LAMF
Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Ramones - Rocket To Russia

Never really dug the Clash that much...

Yeah Andy I know what you mean but nonetheless Punk was turned into a fashion thing for lots of folks through some heavy media presence, including some utter rubbish printed in the likes of the Daily Mirror in summer of '77 including an article showing Ten Easy Steps On How To Be A Punk Rocker, and ludicrous stuff like that...and then of course all the teenie magazines of the time who were covering all the previous pop, and glam groups earlier on in the 70s began to feature loads of punk groups posing in all their finery too...so like it or not, fashion did indeed play its part in the punk rock scene, for better or worse... take it from someone who was very much there at the time, even if, admittedly, I wasn't right there at the very dawn of it all. But in around '77-'80 I saw the likes of The Buzzcocks, The Clash with Suicide, The Jam, The Damned with The Dead Boys, The Radiators From Space (supporting Thin Lizzy), Siouxsie and the Banshees with Spizz Oil, Adam and the Ants, 999, Dr Feelgood with Mink Deville, The Cure, Ultravox, The Slits, Subway Sect, Magazine and Bauhaus, The Fall with The Cramps, The Monochrome Set...not to mention some of our very own Scottish groups like Matt Vinyl and The Decorators, the Scars, TV Art (soon to become Josef K), the Dirty Reds (soon to become the Fire Engines), and of course The Skids, Bee Bee Cee, The Prats and a whole heap more too... Andy Climax said:

Oi! Punk etc. All the same moniker really. Just a reaction to the shit that was happening in Britain at the time. I believe the same shit was happening in New York and Detroit at the same time. Oi! was born of the skinhead/suedehead movement, and was more racially motivated. The skinheads came directly from the old punks who were totally disillusioned with the commercial crap that the clash and the pistols etc were eventually comin out with. So its all punk really. Like the hippy thing in the 50's and 60's, punk was'nt and is'nt a fashion thing, its a way of life and thinking

There was some pretty brilliant albums released in that time frame, favourites, that I can't put in order:

Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - LAMF
Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Ramones - Rocket To Russia

Never really dug the Clash that much...

I was saddened by the news (which I heard about on WFMU's Fools Paradise show-in N.Y. if ya' don't know), but was a little pissed by lack of any real notice given his passing from ANY news sources. Your posting is what appeared everywhere and I thought that sucked. Shit, the guy had a bunch more great tunes-they're on the cover of the album.

Sad news indeed. I'm gonna go and do the mashed potatoes right now as a tribute.

Yes! And all the Milkshakes records for sure.

Gadzooks, all of them!

Now and then I enjoy listening to these fine tunes:

Milkshakes - Before The Night Is Through
Mighty Caesars - Little By Little
Thee Stash - We're Selling Jeans For The USA

Hi John!

Yeah, I'm a huge Childish-fan, too, but it's pretty hard to keep track of all of his work. Actually, almost every record I bought is good, but here are my favourites of the albums I own:

The Milkshakes - "Nothing Can Stop These Men"
Thee Headcoats - "Beach Bums Must Die!"
Billy Childish and the MBE - "Christmas 1979"
Billy Childish and Holly Golightly - "In Blood" (this record, in fact, brought back my belief in guitar music after having drifted off to dubstep and stuff like that)
The Delmonas - "Dangerous Charms"

The Childish compilation "Archive of 1959" is an interesting overview with some fine tunes (like "Kray Twins (demo)" by the Pop Rivets).

Also try to get the following compilations:

"Hey Mom! The Garage is on my foot!" (this one is still available on CD on the DamGood website); "A Hangman Sampler" (I really love this one, but since it's from 1988, I only have an mp3 copy of this); the whole "Medway Powerhouse" series. These are hard to get, I guess, but they're on the internet somewhere (just to pass the time until you can get physical copies of them).

And I'd love to have the Headcoats Sect vinyl "Deerstalking Men", for the title track is a killer. Oh, and also try the supergreat Kravin' "A"s with Milkshake Bruce Brand on guitar!

Have fun hunting!

Cheers, Doc

You pretty much can't go wrong with any Childish record. I love every record I have so far, and definitely need more. I have:

Thee Headcoats- Beach Bums Must Die
Thee Headcoats- Earls of Suavedom
Thee Mighty Caesars- Thusly, Thee Might Caesars
Wild Billy Childish and the MBE's- Thatcher's Children
Wild Billy Childish and the MBE's- It Should Be Me b/w Loray Head 7"
Wild Billy Childish and the MBE's- Daddy Rolling Stone 12"
The Pop Rivets- Fun in the UK

I only have a few Billy Childish records and I want to ad more to my collection. Name a few of your favorites from any of his musical projects so I can get up to speed. Please.

I always thought Black Flag was totally L.A.....Iwassnt Livin here at the time...i was up in Sac. ; when i saw them...kinda of a punk Black Sabath*.....1983?????
there is one song ...i snagged off collage radio..... I see the world threw Rats Eyes... iLove it!!! Has anyone else heard this one????

Can you recommend the Ultra 3? How's it to play and how does it sound? Is it good with fuzz? I'm in Finland and the only Schecters they have here are those ugly metal guitars, so no chance for me to try the Ultra myself. gumbo chaff said:

I am using a schecter ultra III thro a boss me 70 into a hughes and kettner edition blue(the best thing about this amp is it has a cool BLUE backlight on the control panel !! its quite a simple setup but it works for me at the moment .I want a peavey wiggy !! and some more ultras.

i started using it at nxne this year to track secret shows etc and have sort of stuck with it, i'll look for you

Thanks for posting this! I need a lil birthday vacation. Seems like there's not much activity on this "Wild Wild" West forum.

ping sucks. and none of my truly favorite bands are on it.
should use spotify social instead its all tied in with facebook and whatnot.

People used to make and post downloadable '60s garage comps on the old Psychotic Reactions forum on the GaragePunk Forums message board ("forum comps" they were called), so it's nice to see someone continuing the tradition here.