Nightmare gig eh?

Well my band was slated to support a touring band at a local hellhole called Ronnie's. Ronnie's is a Mexican bar with a garage attached to it where all the bands play. It is also a hellhole: The toilet was covered in what I honestly believe were either the results of some bad mexican food (more on that later) or a makeshift abortion. The ceiling tiles are either falling apart, gone, or dripping some strange smelly brown liquid. The other bathroom is full of graffiti, piss, and other strange unpleasant smells.

There's some background. Now when we get there at 9 no one's there. We're just sitting in the car waiting for someone to open this hellhole when some guy does a somersault over the hood of our car and two cops go sprinting after him into the dark. We had a laugh at that and then the other band showed up. 30 minutes late three women who don't speak English casually show up and open the bar, carrying big aluminum trays with them.

We go in and set up and I try to convince the bartender to at least give us free beers. Then the owner of the bar comes in and says we're not getting paid in beer or money but the shady food they brought in the trays. And there's not a soul in this place, so me and the boys buy some hard liquor and get tanked before our set.

In the midst of our set the sound stops sounding good; fading in and out and I drunkenly kick one of my cords slightly out of my fuzz pedal effectively killing my guitar for the rest of the set. So I just sit on my amp drinking until I figure out what's wrong in the middle of our last song. We finish our set to nobody and pack up. I left and decided to eat some of the food (as I was good and drunk by now) and have some kind of strange meat while the other band sets up. In the middle of eating the other band's guitarist comes and asks to use mine because his isn't working. I agree.

That's when I found out they were some kind of prog/space rock band. And I had to sit through their loooooooooong set of wanking and weird time signatures. That is until the strange meat decides to exit the building. I run to the bathroom, unaware I'm running to the one that looks like some suffered a rectal prolapse in it. Once I get in the smell hits me and I vomit all over the wall but somehow keep standing up. I keep wretching and standing so I don't have to be near whatever was all over the floor and toilet seat. After I wandered out with puke all over most of my right arm I realize that I have to wait for their set to finish before I leave. And that took another hour. It was fucking awful.

Nice! See you guys there!

All I had to do was go on the Scion website and sign on to the list. Then I went to a tent at the festival. They found my name on a will-call list and gave me a wrist band. Bouncers just checked wrist bands at the venues. It was really easy and it seemed pretty orderly. kopper said:

Yeah, my wife and I used to live in Lawrence. I miss that town!

How did they handle the free admission thing last year in Portland? I'm just curious how they're going to make this work w/ free admission and a ton of bands all playing on the same day...

Alex Patton said:

God Damn! I went to last years in Portland and it was a real good time. Lawrence KS is a cool town too.

Check it out... GREAT lineup!!

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Yup I do. My cassette player is a bit screwed at the moment though. Once I can get it working, or a new one I'll do it.

Nah, we make podcasts and trade 'em through the Internets. They're even more compact and portable than cassette tapes! ;)

Here's an addendum to my list of favorite albums from the past 10 years. These were good albums, if not great albums.

(1) "Rock's Not Dead" by the Marbles (1999) - This was the band that later became Manda and the Marbles, and this was their hastily recorded but still excellent debut. Favorite tracks: "No Direction," "Reputation," "Do You Know," and the title track.

(2) "Seduction" by Manda and the Marbles (2000) - This was their first full length album, so "More Seduction" is basically a remixed version with additional tracks. This one includes some forgotten gems, "Stuck Here" and "Too Much."

(3) "James at 35" by the Breakup Society (2004) - A great local power pop band with a strong Kinks' influence in their sound. I'm mentioning them because they were hoping to get some airplay on the Underground Garage, but it never happened.

(4) “Do You Swing” by the Fleshtones (2003) – This band really is a one trick pony, but this album stood out a little bit more for me than others. Favorite tracks: The title track and “I’m Back Again.”

(5) "Bazooka" by the Star Spangles (2003) - A good debut by a solid band, if nothing spectacular. Favorite track: "I Don't Wanna Be Crazy Anymore."

(6) "Turn 21" by the Donnas (2001) - I love how the Donnas stole the bass line for the opening track, "Are You Gonna Move It for Me?" from "Plaster Caster" by KISS. I also like their cover of "Living After Midnight" by Judas Priest.

(7) "Coming Now" by the Fondas (2003) - I love the opening track, "Yeah, Baby." The rest is OK, but nothing spectacular.

(8) "Ko and the Knockouts" (2002) - My favorite track on this one is "If I." The rest of it is pretty cool too. I also like their cover of the Birds' "You're on my Mind."

(9) "Gold Medal" by the Donnas (2004) - A lot of people didn't like this one because it wasn't hard rocking enough, but I thought the Donnas showed some growth with lyrics that were a little darker this time around. Favorite track: "Fall Behind Me."

(10) "Kiss and Tell" by the Sahara Hotnights (2004) - Quite honestly, this album is rather spotty, but it does include some great tracks, namely "Who Do You Dance For?" and "Hot Night Crash."

(11) "Victory Motel" by the Downbeat Five (2005) - Sadly, I just found out this one is out of print, but at least you can still download it. I love their cover of "Dum Dum Ditty."

(12) "Heels and Wheels" by the High School Sweethearts (2005) - This was the last Get Hip band that I heard on the Underground Garage before the label ended up on "the list." Cool album all the way through, but I especially liked "Cherry Hi-Way," "Satellite City," and the title track, along with their garagey version of "Moonage Daydream" from Bowie's "Ziggy Stardust" album.

(13) "Monkey Time" by the Maggots (2006) - Another solid effort by a good band. I especially like "Ain't Nothing but a Maggot," "Temptation," "You Don't Want Me," "Tomato Juice" and "King of the Freaks."

(14) "Mindbending Sounds of the Chesterfield Kings" (2002) - A good album, but not as dynamic as the follow-up, "Psychedelic Sunrise." I love the first two tracks, "I Don't Understand" and "Somewhere, Nowhere," along with their "Jumpin' Jack Flash" rip-off, "Flashback."

(15) "Mastermind" by the Cocktail Slippers (2004) - A good follow-up to their debut, and I especially like "Who You Are," which has a similar dynamic to "Simple Things" by Manda and the Marbles. It still annoys me that I paid full price for an import copy; how was I supposed to know it would get re-released on Wicked Cool, where I could have bought it for $9.99?

(16) "Permission to Land" by the Darkness (2003) - Yes, I know a lot of people hate the Darkness because they just can't see the humor in what they're doing, but I still like this debut. Favorite tracks: "Get Your Hands Off My Woman," "Growing on Me," "I Believe in a Thing Called Love," and "Friday Night."

(17) "Hedwig and the Angry Inch" soundtrack (2001) - Did anyone here see this movie? It's the greatest glam rock musical since "Rocky Horror," and the soundtrack is just as great. Favorite tracks: "Tear Me Down," "Origin of Love," "Wicked Little Town (Tommy Gnosis version)," "Wig in a Box," "Midnight Radio," and "In Your Arms Tonight."

(18) "Code Fun" by the Black Tie Revue (2007) - Good power pop band, and I'm glad that at least one Pittsburgh band is getting some airplay on the Underground Garage. My favorite is the title track.

(19) "Chop You Up" by the Forbidden Five (2007) - A very cool mix of garage, surf and rockabilly, strewn with B horror movie lyrics. My favorite is also the title track.

(20) "Whatever Rhymes with Baby" by the Yum Yums (2008) - A hard hitting slice of power pop. My favorite track is "Earthquake Song," even though it’s actually sung by the Little Girls, a new wave band from the 80s.

(21) "The World Famous Hat Trick" by Vibeke Saugestad (2008) - A more sugar coated piece of power pop. My favorite track is "He's Peculiar."

(22) "Patio a Go Go" by the Sugar Twins (1999) - This is a silly novelty act that does a lounge version of a 60s girl group, but it's still a lot of fun. Favorite tracks: The title track, "Ski Bunny," and "For You."

(23) "Here We Are" by the Cynics (2007) - A lot of people didn't like this album because it was a departure from the band's usual approach, but I commend them for trying something different. The title track is my favorite, because I like to hear Michael Kastelic actually singing, as opposed to his usual caterwauling.

(24) "DFFD" by the Dictators (2001) - Not really a great album, but I love the opening track, "Who Will Save Rock'n'Roll?" This was released the year before the launch of the Underground Garage, so it almost feels as if Little Steven answers the question asked by the opening track.

At the beginning of this year, Little Steven posted a list of his favorite songs and albums from the past ten years. I came up with a list of my own and posted it on his forum shortly afterwards. The forum was then shut down for a while for renovation, so I didn't have access to my list, but now it's open again, and I just thought I would share it with the rest of you. BTW, I made it a point not to include any of Little Steven's selections (even though I did love both "Psychedelic Sunrise" by the Chesterfield Kings and "St. Valentine's Day Massacre" by the Cocktail Slippers), because I wanted it to be my own list.

Most of my choices are bands that I've discovered on the Underground Garage, although there are a few exceptions. If anyone has a problem with that, I don't care, because a great band is a great band, regardless of whatever medium I discovered them through.

Also, just to save myself the trouble of writing a separate list, I named my favorite tracks from each album. This list covers a period from 1999 to 2009.

(1) "More Seduction" by Manda and the Marbles (2002) - What can I say, it's a perfect album by a perfect band. I first saw this band at the 31st Street Pub in August 2003, and I was totally mesmerized by them. Their sound is a great mix of retro 80s new wave and power pop. Favorite tracks: "Dangerous," "Forget About the Day," "Through," and "Fast Cars."

(2) "Running with the Wasters" by the Takeover UK (2009) - I still have a hard time believing this band is from my hometown. This album is a magnificent blend of garage, power pop, brit pop, and glam. Favorite tracks: The title track, "Never Been So Sick," "Kill Me Dead," and "Evelyn."

(3) "We Are the Pipettes" by the Pipettes (2006) - Best retro act I have ever seen. And they are all so incredibly cute too (especially Rose and Becki). Favorite tracks: "Pull Shapes" and "Because It's Not Love."

(4) "Angels with Dirty Faces" by Manda and the Marbles (2004) - A great follow-up to "More Seduction," although not quite as good as its predecessor. However, it does feature Manda's finest moment ever as a singer and songwriter, "Simple Things." Favorite tracks: "Simple Things," "Ode to Rock," "Lipstick" "Confidential," "Say Anything," "Cheap Tragedies" and "Boys Will Be Boys."

(5) "Spooky Sugar" by the Science Fiction Idols (2003) - Yes, I know this band never got any airplay on the Underground Garage, but they're still one of my favorite local bands, all the more so because they take 70s glam rock and repackage it in such a way that it still sounds fresh and original. Favorite tracks: "Starfire," "Cats Galore," "New Man Tonight," "Phantom Channel," and "Married in my Underwear."

(6) "Living is the Best Revenge" by the Cynics (2002) - I'm sure this album would have made it to Little Steven's list if he and Gregg Kostelich weren't so pissed off at each other. A great comeback album by a band that had been out of commission during the second half of the 90s. Favorite tracks: The title track, "Let Me Know," "Shine," and "Turn Me Loose."

(7) "Rock It" by the Cocktail Slippers (2002) - Yes, I know the Cocktail Slippers have grown considerably since their first album, but this is the one that got me hooked on them. It was also the first overseas purchase I had made because of the Underground Garage. Favorite track: "Rock'n'Roll Babe."

(8) "Les Hell on Heels" by Les Hell on Heels (2004) - This is the illegitimate spawn of the Stooges and the Shangri Las. Favorite tracks: "Ain't So Cool" and "Hell on Heels."

(9) "7x4" by the Gore Gore Girls (2005) - A wonderful EP recorded by the Gore Gore Girls during the brief time that Jen "Deuce" Pirch was in the band (She was such a hottie). Favorite tracks: "Casino" and "No Big Thing."

(10) "Strange Magic" by the Charms (2006) - It's too bad this band parted company with Wicked Cool Records, but they did manage to put out one great album on that label. Favorite tracks: "Broken Heart," "LTD," and "Touch."

(11) “61/49” by the Romantics (2003) – A band that I remembered from the 80s as a cool power pop band made a remarkable return to their garage roots on this album. I was also surprised to hear that they were still around when Little Steven started playing them on his show. Favorite tracks: “Paint the Sky” and “Out of my Mind.”

(12) "Up All Night" by the Gore Gore Girls (2003) - Hearing some songs from this album on the Underground Garage is what got me into them. Favorite tracks: "Astral Man," "I Don't Think So," "Your Last Chance."

(13) "Charmed, I'm Sure" by the Charms (2002) - A great debut by a consistently good band. Favorite tracks: "Top Down," "Saturday," "Snowflakes on Velvet," and "Last Train."

(14) "Night of 1,000 Ex-Boyfriends" by the Holograms (2005) - A very catchy mix of bubblegum and pop punk by a group of very cute Asian girls who sing songs about raunchy subjects, i.e. drugs, necrophilia, prostitution. Favorite tracks: "Are You Ready For It," "Weekend Bender," "Scene Whore" and "Your Ex is Turning Tricks Again."

(15) "You're Kisses are Wasted on Me" by the Pipettes (2007) - A teaser single that was released before the official American release of their debut album. Favorite tracks: "Really That Bad" and "Guess Who Ran Off with the Milkman?"

(16) "Pussycat" by the Charms (2005) - A solid effort, if not their best. Favorite track: "Dream."

(17) "Dolls and Skulls" by the Ultimatics (2000) - Yes, I know a lot of you have never heard of this band, but they were arguably the best punk band to ever come out of Pittsburgh. Favorite track: The title track and "Caroline."

(18) "Get Born" by Jet (2003) - A totally kickass album by one of the first bands that I discovered on the Underground Garage. Favorite tracks: "Cold Hard Bitch" and "Rollover DJ."

(19) "Supernatural Equinox" by Outrageous Cherry (2003) - Psychedelia at its finest, and another band that I discovered when I first started listening to the Underground Garage. Favorite track: "Girl, You Have Magic Inside You" (That one goes out to you, Whitney).

(20) "Tell the Kids the Cops are Here" by the Model Rockets (2002) - And another band I first heard of when I started listening to the Underground Garage. Favorite tracks: "The Dress Up Girls" and "A Notice To Everyone."

(21) "Nightlife" by Cobra Verde (1999) - Forget "Easy Listening," this one is the band's masterpiece. Very Bowie-esque. Favorite tracks: "One Step Away from Myself" and "Every God for Himself."

(22) "The Return of Rock" by the Swingin' Neckbreakers (2000) - This was another band that I first saw at the 31st Street Pub, and this was a couple of years before I discovered the Underground Garage. Favorite tracks: "I'm in a Band" and "Lets Have a Jam."

(23) "Knock Hard" by the Paybacks (2002) - Again, this was another band I first saw at the Pub, and they were sharing a bill with the Cynics. Favorite tracks: "Black Girl," "If I Fell," and "Vegas."

(24) "Love, Not Reason" by the Paybacks (2006) - Their last and best album. Favorite tracks: "Painkiller," "Stranger in the House" and "Sleepwalking."

(25) “After Hours” by Prima Donna (2008) – A very cool retro glam band that reminds me a lot of the Science Fiction Idols. Favorite tracks: “Stray Doll,” “Soul Stripper,” and “Demoted.”

And I'm not talking about 80s hair metal bands, I'm talking about the real thing...T-Rex, David Bowie, Roxie Music, Mott the Hoople, Sweet, Slade, Lou Reed, Alice Cooper, the New York Dolls, etc.

I'm bringing this up because I saw a great glam rock revival band in NYC last weekend called Prima Donna. They're from Los Angeles, and they sound like a cross between the Dolls and Mott. They even have a guy who plays keyboard and sax. They released their debut album, "After Hours," in 2008 on the Acetate label, and Little Steven got me into them late last year when he named "Stray Doll" as the "Coolest Song in the World" (This song sounds like an outtake from the "Rocky Horror" soundtrack). Another song that I love is "Soul Stripper," which is a wonderful rip-off of Alice Cooper's "Under My Wheels."

I just posted a bunch of pictures here from the gig, and I just wanted to know if anyone else here has heard of them, or would like to check them out.

I'm on it. I like to alternate between listening to last.fm and the LSUG channel on Sirius/XM.

They'd both have to be to want to cover those two tunes. BackdoorStan said:

Oh, I actually played a gig with my friends band where one band -PRSMS- covered "1970"
and they - Passive Aggressor - covered "Fun House." That was my first gig with a saxophone.
The bands are kind of intense psychedelic noisy hc punk devo beefheartcore whateverness.


BackdoorStan said:

Oh I listened to Rat Surf #7 podcast yesterday and The Twisters "Count Down 1-2-3" is still haunting me for the weirdness of the sax playing alone. Very cool. Uncoventional sax playing for a cool lil instrumental. No cliches!

ratoonie said:

my iggy albums are in storage...... way op in Sacramento.....its gonna take me a couple grand to get everything down to L.A.!!

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What do you think of the saxaphone on Funhouse and 1970 on the second Stooges LP?

Oh, I actually played a gig with my friends band where one band -PRSMS- covered "1970" and they - Passive Aggressor - covered "Fun House." That was my first gig with a saxophone. The bands are kind of intense psychedelic noisy hc punk devo beefheartcore whateverness. BackdoorStan said:

Oh I listened to Rat Surf #7 podcast yesterday and The Twisters "Count Down 1-2-3" is still haunting me for the weirdness of the sax playing alone. Very cool. Uncoventional sax playing for a cool lil instrumental. No cliches!

ratoonie said:

my iggy albums are in storage...... way op in Sacramento.....its gonna take me a couple grand to get everything down to L.A.!!

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What do you think of the saxaphone on Funhouse and 1970 on the second Stooges LP?

Oh I listened to Rat Surf #7 podcast yesterday and The Twisters "Count Down 1-2-3" is still haunting me for the weirdness of the sax playing alone. Very cool. Uncoventional sax playing for a cool lil instrumental. No cliches! ratoonie said:

my iggy albums are in storage...... way op in Sacramento.....its gonna take me a couple grand to get everything down to L.A.!!

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What do you think of the saxaphone on Funhouse and 1970 on the second Stooges LP?

I love a lot of that guy's playing -- Funhouse is one of my favorite albums of all time. More due to Ron, Scott Asheton and Dave Alexander tho. Yeah, I mean I grew up getting into Steve McKay's sax playing. Iggy told him to play like Maceo Parker (J.B.'s main alto man) on acid! It's kinda how he plays. ratoonie said:

my iggy albums are in storage...... way op in Sacramento.....its gonna take me a couple grand to get everything down to L.A.!!

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What do you think of the saxaphone on Funhouse and 1970 on the second Stooges LP?

my iggy albums are in storage...... way op in Sacramento.....its gonna take me a couple grand to get everything down to L.A.!! Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What do you think of the saxaphone on Funhouse and 1970 on the second Stooges LP?

Hi, I've looked at all that before. I even own the soundtrack on vinyl, but it's not on it. Everywhere on the web I find soundtrack details, it never lists that song I'm trying to find. Was the movie producers ashamed of the song and didn't want to credit it or sdmething? It's pretty fuckin' boss, I couldn't see that being the reason. luscevious drummer said:

Sidney Miller and Fred Karger wrote two songs for the film, “The Swingin’ Set,” performed offscreen by Donnie Brooks at the film’s opening, and “Get Yourself a College Girl,” performed in the film by Mary Ann Mobley.
Stan Getz with the Stan Getz Quartet back Astrud Gilberto as she performs “The Girl from Ipanema;”
The Rhythm Masters perform “Beat Street Rag;”
Jimmy Smith with The Jimmy Smith Trio perform “Johnny Come On Home”
And the instrumental "The Sermon;"
Freddie Bell & Roberta Linn with the Bellboys perform “Talkin' About Love;”
The Standells perform “Bony Maronie” and “The Swim;”
The Dave Clark Five perform “Whenever You're Around,” and “Thinking of You;” and
The Animals sing “Blue Feeling” and “Round and Round.”
Singer Nancy Sinatra, who would have a hit record two years later, appears in this film but does not sing.

1. WHENEVER YOU'RE AROUND (02:50)
The Dave Clark Five
2. GIRL FROM IPANEMA (02:49)
Stan Getz & Astrud Gilberto
3. AROUND AND AROUND (02:44)
The Animals
4. THE SERMON (02:55)
Jimmy Smith Trio
5. GET YOURSELF A COLLEGE GIRL (02:34)
Mary Ann Mobley
6. BONY MORONIE (02:40)
The Standells
7. THINKING OF YOU BABY (02:34)
The Dave Clark Five (this track starts side 2)
8. SWEET RAIN (03:25)
Stan Getz
9. BLUE FEELING (02:28)
The Animals
10. COMIN' HOME JOHNNY (03:17)
Jimmy Smith Trio
11. TALKIN' ABOUT LOVE (02:22)
Freddie Bell With Roberta Linn & The Bell Boys
12. THE SWIM (02:34)
Standells

I wish that this is of help. i will also seek for the movie to see it nad let you know as well as the lyrics do not ring any bells for now....

Hi, Mal. It starts exactly 10 minutes and 50 seconds into the film. The chick in the red dress puts on the record and then everyone gets up and dances. Listen for the lyrics I posted above in the song. The song only plays for about 30 seconds.

Thanks!
-Sean.

dono yet. started watching it online and got to like the first 5mins and some chick in a red dress started giving it shit to some record. decided then to download the stream. hope il have an answer for you tonight. do you know how far in the film the song is?

oh man, the Ramones of course!!!! everything from them i could reach for, but It ´s alive is the best ever!!!! Rami LTX said:

for me back then...
The Cramps - songs the lord taught us
The Sex Pistols - never mind the bollocks here´s
Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers - like a mother fucker
The Dead Kennedys - fresh fruit for the rotting vegetables
The Misfits - legacy of brutality/walk among us/1978 Static Age sessions
Stray Cats - 1st
The Meteors - In Heaven
The Polecats - are go!
Various artists - Let them eat jellybeans
Tenpole Tudor - 1st & Let the four winds blow

for me back then... The Cramps - songs the lord taught us The Sex Pistols - never mind the bollocks here´s Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers - like a mother fucker The Dead Kennedys - fresh fruit for the rotting vegetables The Misfits - legacy of brutality/walk among us/1978 Static Age sessions Stray Cats - 1st The Meteors - In Heaven The Polecats - are go! Various artists - Let them eat jellybeans Tenpole Tudor - 1st & Let the four winds blow

'A funny thing happened to me on the way to the forum', as the old movie title once said. This is a great wee place as we are all here not by accident but because of our love for all things punk, past and future. Facebook et al are worldwide platforms for the wonderful and the sad, this site i think is a wee bit more sublime than that. Theres no one-upmanship or point gaining, and yes i think we are all a bit 'Anorak', but only because we have a real passion for this kinda thing, to the extent that it transcends the music and art and then becomes a lifestyle choice. 'Art for Arts Sake' as one shitty Brittish band once lauded. Like the Muppets, we welcome all people here coz we know you live and love the same air we do. Zoe yer an absolute star. As King Jello Biafra once said, 'Keep it real, and be prepared!!!

Don't forget the Animosity era Corrossion of Conformity is back with Mike, Woody, and Reed.

Hi Ego,

that's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! I've heard a few of those names already, Harvey Milk, Boris and Baroness for example. But now I'll go a-hunting for more.

Another pretty good band are the Young Widows, but I don't know if they can be called Metal, or rather just Noise(core). Anyway, I like the way they work with a kind of loopy, repetitive riffing.

Does anyone like Carcass? I think that "Necroticism" is one of the best grindcore records ever made, so full of good ideas, with a superb sound and cool humor. After that, they became too soft, too "indie", and before that album they were amusing but kind of bad. But this one album, wow.

It can't be much worse than that shitty film with Joe Strummer in. The guy made some great music but should never tried acting. 24 Hour Party People ruled, have it on DVD and before that I never thought that there was any link between punk and rave.