Keith Moon often rambled about speaking with the horned one, on the other hand, said horned one is afraid of keef Richards. I was too young at the time, and in a different country, But what i see now is, the who were punk, like Kinks, but the stones were dangerous.. A different kind of threat. And what about Edward Elgar.. first English punk? Two fingers up to everything...

I've seen SUNRA a couple times, i'm still up there! NATIONAL HARVESTER, a pre Pink Floyd Hawkwind group from Sweden, more glue than anything, but some really strange, U can see the connections, I think that Matching Mole's Caroline is a nice and tasty nugget, paints yer room a different colour anyway! Gong the 3rd lp in trilogy 'YOU' is nice, and quite flowing, OM playing conference of the birds is super killer.. AS Terry Riley church of Anthrax.. Brian Eno?

Go get some!

Ranger Sound, I Bubblegum... I like, original language, if i can't understand it i use it as another instrument, the highs and lows of the tonal segments.. fuckin great! Some South American covers of Stones songs blow the originals away, I think the percentage of groups have to sing in English, as that is world standard, but to those who can't communicate without out mother tongue, its a blessing also, as they can pour out what ever stories they have with passion!

ooh! my bad, it says 300 discs. meant to be 3000, means nuthin to you, but to me an the missus its an extra 3 inches haha!

i have around 300 discs, its so dis organized, its organised. My boot's are the same, Buddy Holly hotel demos next to seeds gigs.. Next to Morisons last words, Ramones talkin about glue sniffers in Edinburgh, I break it up with robots and space ships, and some psyche art... 4 walls, window only space not with discs, my film room is the same, Japanese, American, Europe, Rough idea of the genre, but thats it. Er no, lol.. I don't!

And What about the bluesmen ? Lightnin' Hopkins, Muddy Waters, Screamin' Joe Neal, Mississippi Fred Mc Dowell, Barbecue Bob and Roasting Banana Joe ...
About comps, where do you file "Psycho Serenade" and "Four Hairy Policemen" for example ? Under W as "Wavy Gravy" as you would do for the "Teenage Shutdown" serie or...???
Ouch ! My head aches...
That's why I've stopped filing my records long years ago !!!
But now I'm lost in a labyrinth of records and I can't get out !!! Lps and cds are still "pretty easy" to find when I'm not too loaded but I can't search a 7 inch one week long without finding it and I admit that's quite a problem when you're deejaying !!!

Yep, Los Straitjackets should go under S. Good point. And I have all the Stooges stuff under S and Iggy's solo stuff under P, since I always thought of "Pop" as his last name. And yeah, I have Lightning Beat-Man's stuff under L and Reverend Beat-Man under R. Maybe putting him in the B's would be better (or under Z for Zeller, ha!). That's a toughie. Mike said:

I used to do the number bands by letter, but I now find it easier to put them in front in numerical order, but there are a few that still throw a curve like 999 who on some releases go by Nine Nine Nine on the sleeve, but almost always 999 on the label. For now I still have them in "N".
The Stooges are another. You have Stooges, Iggy & the Stooges, Iggy Pop. I have any variation of Stooges filed under "S" and Iggy Pop under "I", not P as just saying Iggy is all it takes to know who you are talking about. But I do put artists like Johnny Thunders under "T". Comps/ Various Artists / Soundtracks/ and any splits with three or more bands I do as Kopper does and file them by title after the "Z"'s. Now here are my questions: 1. I'm an English speaker so I end up putting all the bands with Los, Las, and Die by those words ("L" & "D") though I know that is nothing more than "the". What do the rest of you do? 2. Split realeases, what to do?!? I generally put them under the band I view as being more significant (or that I just like better), but it makes it hard to remember what's on those other sides when I'm perusing a particular band whose split is filed under the other artists name. 3. My last question is what to do with someone like Beat-Man? Under "B" for Beat Man or under "L" when he's Lightning Beat Man, or "R" for his current Reverend Beat Man? I have his stuff scattered all over the place currently.

I used to do the number bands by letter, but I now find it easier to put them in front in numerical order, but there are a few that still throw a curve like 999 who on some releases go by Nine Nine Nine on the sleeve, but almost always 999 on the label. For now I still have them in "N".

The Stooges are another. You have Stooges, Iggy & the Stooges, Iggy Pop. I have any variation of Stooges filed under "S" and Iggy Pop under "I", not P as just saying Iggy is all it takes to know who you are talking about. But I do put artists like Johnny Thunders under "T".

Comps/ Various Artists / Soundtracks/ and any splits with three or more bands I do as Kopper does and file them by title after the "Z"'s.

Now here are my questions:
1. I'm an English speaker so I end up putting all the bands with Los, Las, and Die by those words ("L" & "D") though I know that is nothing more than "the". What do the rest of you do?
2. Split realeases, what to do?!? I generally put them under the band I view as being more significant (or that I just like better), but it makes it hard to remember what's on those other sides when I'm perusing a particular band whose split is filed under the other artists name.
3. My last question is what to do with someone like Beat-Man? Under "B" for Beat Man or under "L" when he's Lightning Beat Man, or "R" for his current Reverend Beat Man? I have his stuff scattered all over the place currently.

Didn't deedee have the house of rap? Before he was with gg allin? Didn't he own a tennament block or something? i believe he was really into it and wanted to promote it to the world, but was maybe too early, and also it wasnt grandmaster flash etc.. it was his junkie friends?! Hell i dont know! i dont like it, it seems to have gone nowhere in 30 years. I am quite ignorant on it, but has there ever been an artist who sang about a solution?!+= Spain is varied, u have the chart lovers who all go about bling bling, u have kids under flyovers skateboarding and talking about no cash for glue, u have gitana- gypsies- and u have new world beats... bottom line for me, its all the same, the content has no solution, same breaks, down beat or other, same intros and vocal length, same recordings, like i say i am ignorant, maybe i need to be woken up, i really dont mind an eye opener.. send rants and raves, or indeed requests to what i should hear.. i welcome all.

While I didn't listen to a lot of Rap music, I liked what I heard between 1985 to about 1990. Mostly Run-DMC, Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, LL Cool Jay, I guess a lot of the early Def Jam things. Also liked Ice T and the first NWA record. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one. I only own 3 rap records however and they're all Beastie Boys.

Jurassic 5! Listening to 50 cent and saying you like hip hop is like listening to Avril Lavigne and saying you like punk rock.

Sonic Boom 6 do a great ska punk hip hop fusion along with Kingprawn although Kingprawn are no more. The Clash experimented a bit with rap and of course then so did Tim Armstrong, not least with the Transplands.

It's tricky to know exactly where the "urban music" thing wears off I mean Red Hot Chilli Peppers were a punk band that experimented with funk but are now a rock band playing around with funk and rap.

Check out acid jazz, the genre is a generally British jazz hip hop fusion that doesn't have the bullshit of gangster rap and sounds good to chill out to.

Well he's doing a book tour...I guess this thread would be better for people who aren't in the States.

Did anyone mention Einstürzende Neubauten ? Guess you should check their 80's stuff (even if some call it more indus than goth).
And what about Killing Joke first 2 lp and singles ?
Early Wall of Voodoo (Stan Ridgway period) should be tried too if you ain't afraid of mixing Suicide with country music !

About Bauhaus, I really loved them when I was a kid but I can't listen to them anymore...much too arty and Bowiesque to my dirty old ears...
About the intro of "Bela Lugosi's dead" picked up by The Dirtbombs in their "Kung-Fu" version, Jay Reatard did the same thing in "Blood visions" (the song).
About The Sisters of Mercy, if you ain't dead of too much laughing after listening to their "First and last and always" lp, you'd better try the first eps, especially the one with "Alice" and their cover of "1969". Those eps are also gathered in the "Some girls wander by mistake" cd. But, once again, you may laugh more than cry... which is quite a pity for a wannabe dark and romantic goth !

About the bands that deals with dark and horror themes, you can't forget the kings of Psychobilly : The Meteors !

At last, I would say better forget about all these not so great bands, who probably used to spend more time fixing their dark mascara and blood red lipstick than practicing witchcraft in spooky cemetaries under the full moon, and please check each and every stuff with Steve Pallow or Haunted George in !!!

Then you might like TSOL from 1982-1984 and of course the Misfits. Johnny Paradox said:

Okay, so I dress goth, however, I love gothic literature and music. However I also love punk style and incorporate a lot of that into my clothing as well.. horrorpunk I suppose? LOL

Okay, so I dress goth, however, I love gothic literature and music. However I also love punk style and incorporate a lot of that into my clothing as well.. horrorpunk I suppose? LOL

Lydia Lunch is over rated. Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

That was pretty interesting. I never knew that Suicide was considered part of New York's No Wave scene seeing as it was common to find them sharing stages with the Ramones, Television, The Voidoids, and other New York bands who stood out from each other. As noisy and arty as they were, I always thought they were more talented than bands like the Contortions and Teen Age Jesus and the Jerks (I think Lydia Lunch is over rated).

kopper said:

Click here for All You Ever Wanted to Know About No Wave But Were Afraid to Ask.

That was pretty interesting. I never knew that Suicide was considered part of New York's No Wave scene seeing as it was common to find them sharing stages with the Ramones, Television, The Voidoids, and other New York bands who stood out from each other. As noisy and arty as they were, I always thought they were more talented than bands like the Contortions and Teen Age Jesus and the Jerks (I think Lydia Lunch is over rated). kopper said:

Click here for All You Ever Wanted to Know About No Wave But Were Afraid to Ask.

I had some tasty livers at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles last week... High Lord Mardy Pune said:

I like my kidney's. You can have my liver... it smells kinda rotten at the mo tho...

I like my kidney's. You can have my liver... it smells kinda rotten at the mo tho...

Send your kidneys to Matt!

I heard that! Seamless transition from kidney transplants to South Bay PORK! I appreciate it Steve! swt said:

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Electronic tuners are a life saver but if you're learning on acoustic (or if your money went all into a guitar and now can't afford the tuner), try and find a pitch pipe. They really are extreamly helpful. And also the fifth fret is going to be what the next string is going to be (with one exception). YOu want to tune the low E string first and work your way up. Whoever's helping you, have them show you what they are doing. OCEAN PALACE said:

cheers for telling us that mate appriciate it,,, and with regards to playing bass, i cant even tune a guitar without help,,, i really struggle finding the notes and stuff haha

Jamie said:

Hey would that be the AC-4tv? Man, that's a tempting little amp. It looks perfect for that early Kinks sound. I've heard it's kind of dark. What do you guys think?