I'd have to go with the same bands above (Phantom Surfers, Satan's Pilgrims, The Apemen(yeah,they are from the Netherlands)) plus the Bomboras , the Ghastley Ones, Los Straitjackets, and (I'm surprised nobody's mentioned them) Jackie and the Cedrics. Embarrassing to say this but I'm really not up on who's really current.

The cause of death was just announced -- cocaine toxicity and alcohol. http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2010/feb/03/medical-examiner-cites-cocaine-toxicity-alcohol-de/

my two cents on this is yes I get where you are coming from, but all in all- yeah they can get the punk credit. Just as much as when you look back at Led Zepplin and can say they started heavy metal. For the music coming out at the time, there was noone out there that took all these influences and put a harder edge to it. But when you see what is punk these days, 20 years down the road we'll say the same thing again.

I have to agree with lord muck, they were most definitely punk. Punk at the time was more about the social revolution not just music. The press added the label not the artists. I'd rather listen to white riot than any pistols track, live it was an inspiration. If you can't call the clash punk you'd better rule out the ramones (who really wanted to be a surf band , just didn't have the chops to play it at the time), plus as Lord muck said they were great live
I have friends who's band in 76/77 hated the punk label and called themselves hoodlum rock, but they were probably the best of the Toronto punk bands (the ugly - good luck finding their stuff) If you look back now most of the stuff seems pretty tame in comparison, but if you were there it changed music and art for the better (not to mention the fact that a lot of what we listen to now would likely never have come about without the first wave kicking down the walls of mediocrity that had developed in the music scene)

So much of a label's meaning is derived from both the context of its use and the experience of the labeler that it's damn near impossible to settle such a debate. In fact, in this particular scenario, the Clash are pretty much interchangeable with the MC5, the Stooges, the Sonics or even - in the hands of the most skilled contrarian - the Beatles and/or Elvis. The best you can hope for is an agreement to disagree. To illustrate my point, I propose that Johnny Cash was far more punk than just about anybody mentioned so far. Further, he was so before such a thing a punk was even on the "scene" radar. What's punker than that? The Clash experimented with lots of different sounds and were largely just ahead of the curve in terms of what the next big thing was. While their s/t was released in the UK the same year as Bollocks, many more bands borrowed from the Clash than from the Sex Pistols, musically speaking and, for better or worse, much more of the Clash's contribution is evident in today's sounds than that of the Pistols'. London Calling incorporated musical styles and production values that other "punk" bands of the time wouldn't have touched. If your criteria is that punk goes against the grain of the times, you have a pretty solid argument for the punk-ness of the Clash. If your criteria has to do with clothes and attitude, that's an entirely different debate, I suppose but it would still be hard to make the argument that the Clash didn't, at least, give it a college try. Personally, - with the exception of Combat Rock - I like the Clash regardless of which categories they might fall into. Additionally, Joe Strummer's solo output serves as evidence that, musically, the Clash were, at the very least, musically capable and, at most, "the only band (punk or otherwise) that matters."

Side note: Generally, these types of arguments degenerate quickly into name calling and sanctimonious name-dropping. I'm new to this forum so it's nice to see some cogent and civilized discourse. Carry on.

WOW! AM i really Glad i stumbled onto this ix!! FOR YEARS i had wondered:"Did i miss SOMETHING??" when it came to these guys.. arriving at the conclusion that i DID NOT.. My "view" (views) ON them.. being EVEN MORE EXTREME than yours.. I bought A CLASH Album.. "ONCE".. The "Green One"!! ~didn't have it long enough to EVEN figger-out the title!! within a week or two.. i took that SUCKER back to the record merchant that i'd bought it from, begging him to:"BUY IT BACK" from me!! i was probably craving "SOMETHING.. LOUDER & FASTER!!"!! around this same time..buying a 7"ep. by a little known Band called:"ANTIDOTE"! &..another 7" Called: "DEAD ROCK 'N' ROLLERS"!!..which seemed to merge with & fit my sensibilities(??!!) ..at The time. Their So-Called POLITRICKS.. WERE Apparrently"LOST".. ON this youth... i have a 10" Of: "GIVE 'EM ENOUGH ROPE"..But Your Comments LEAVE me scratching my head as to: "Why the FUCK i have it??.. haven't given that ONE a spin.. in YEARS!!"...was it because Of The 10" factor?? and, i think, the 45 that came with The aforementioned:"Green Album" might still be floating around my place.. SOME WHERE.. The ONLY tune Of theirs.. that SOLICITES ANY kind Of response or reaction (and SUMS THEM UP Pretty well .. FOR ME) from me is: "Rock The Casbah" a band morphing, changing with the times.."Trying-Out alittle DISCO JOE??!", ..very VERY 80's!! I revisited "LONDON CALLING"..err i think it was.. some years back at the request Of a dearly appreciated musical friend & MUSE.. and don't EVEN REMEMBER my reaction!! ALL that tripe being said,... Its really and Obviously a "matter Of Opinion" man. do i consider THEM SO?? A LOUD & resounding "NO!" ..but Clearly I AM in The minority here.. Which is Alright by me! ME & ME RECORDS have SURVIVED "Quite Nicely".. without THEM.

I think the Barman is refering to the Bondi Lifesaver in 1980.

I saw that picture when I was doing bing and google searches but no...it looked like a picture from the sixties...I know I saw it here in one of the forum topics a while back but can't seemto find it now. Thanks though. sworn liars said:

what about this?

what about this?

Nah, that wasn't it. No, these looked like real skeletons and it's somewhere here posted in the forums but I can't find it. Probably one of those photobucket pictures that expired.... BLACKCAT69 said:

The Nebulas?

I don't think that would be it...it had a look that was similar to one of those Sinbad movies from the 60s or Jason and the Argonauts.

there was a pick of an italian band from the sixties wearing skeleton outfits but i forget there name

Somewhere, somebody posted a picture of some ghostly skeletons with guitars and a drumset and I'm not talking about the goofy pic from Mad Monster Party.  This one actually looked kind of realistic.  Does anybody remember seeing this pic and what page it's on?  I'd really appreciate finding it.

The Torpedo Monkeys said:

PS-of course we did the cd recording off of the vinyl test pressing and we will do the vinyl on a limited run as well.
cheers!

yeah it's four and then you have to pay which is still pretty cool. I like to give the majority of my stuff away if it is a digital download. I set my songs for a dollar a piece just to see how they work when people buy them. I'll end up changing it back to free tomorrow. The CD single with all the really cool artwork is coming out next week. So if you want a copy of the cd free of charge let me know. I'd love to send one to you and the cd is gonna be a special limited production of 250. Mal Thursday said:

Thanks, I figured it out. It's limited to five items (I think you gotta pay to add more), but I added a representative selection from The Malarians Swag Shack

I thought you could also upload five mp3s, but it only let me do four.

Thanks, I figured it out. It's limited to five items (I think you gotta pay to add more), but I added a representative selection from The Malarians Swag Shack I thought you could also upload five mp3s, but it only let me do four.

ok mal go to the control panel or room or whatever they call it and move the mouse over the store tab. It should say create item. then you put the title such as "tour t-shirt" and a description. then you set the price and handling cost. put up an image and there you have it. Still don't know exactly how it all works but I'm learning. If you have any other questions ask. I know someone that is buying two of my songs today so i told them to call me when they do so I can hear some feedback on how "user friendly" it is. Mal Thursday said:

The Mean Mean Men said:

we joined and like the fact that it is pretty genre specific. Plus you can create your own items for merch. and that's pretty cool too.

I set up a page for my band, the Malarians (http://www.ebandagogo.com/The_Malarians/), but how and where do you do the merch thing?

The Mean Mean Men said:

we joined and like the fact that it is pretty genre specific. Plus you can create your own items for merch. and that's pretty cool too.

we joined and like the fact that it is pretty genre specific. Plus you can create your own items for merch. and that's pretty cool too.

Good punk set... had a Flipper song requested already.....(Sex Bomb). Great Captain Beefheart song! So far we are not on the same page as that other list, you all are proving my theory correct! Keep going!

My flash on you - Love
Zig Zag Wanderer - Captain Beefheart
Down to the Wire- Neil Young (Buffalo Springfield)
Can't stand back - The Rats (Toody)
6 cold feet - the Gories (ha no bass line!)

Get the book- Make Your Own Electric Guitar by Melvyn Hiscock...I got a copy used on Amazon for next to nothing.