GG ALLIN was a punk rock god and true new england hero. I proudly visited his grave and enjoy much of his catalogue. He's got great country stuff out there, great pop punk, great scum punk, spoken word, poetry, GG stirred a lot of pots and his musical merit is sadly overshadowed by his hilarious and limitless antics. But at the core if you really look at it is an artist who suffered and endured unflinchingly for his personal mission and never caved in, bowed down, or gave up. There is an honesty and a realness in his songs that cannot be found in much music. GG didn't give you what you wanted he gave you what you deserved. Other great recordings he made include the Murder Junkies LP (not to be confused with the band the murder Junkies) where GG was backed by ANTi-Seen. His last album is highly under rated as well Brutality and Bloodshed for ALL. Some people don't dig on the cookie monster esqe vox on this record but GG always liked to try new things, and this record is more indicative of his real life philosophy. It is hard to imagine anyone will ever overshadow GG ALLIN.

GG's earliest recordings are actually quite good and many on this forum might actually enjoy them. As well as most of the Bay City Rollers songs...LOL..

Track down anything that was released on Orange Records...most of that stuff is late 70's punk/powerpop oriented and some of this actually features members of the MC5 backing him up. The LP Always Was, Is And Always Shall Be collects a lot of this material, but not easy to find....anything after that is pretty much predicatable GG Allin fodder for the kiddies.

Dirty Love Songs on New Rose collects the best stuff, mostly his stuff from '83 to '86 with the Scumfucs. Freaks, Faggots, Drunks, and Junkies on Homestead is also good. Bay City Rollers were great till Rock and Roll Love Letter proved all their detractors right.

Better to go and buy something by the Bay City Rollers :) All of his music is worthless shit just like him.

Not exactly familiar with a lot of his music and I know he's not exactly along the lines of Garage Punk, Psych Folk Rockabilly Trash Surf and other various lofi genres generally favoured in this site but I'm wondering for any fans out there..what is a good place to start ? What was his best era ? For his albums, previous bands etc. Never really dug deep into his music and more so just seen footage of him for his antics.

one time i accidentally walked in on paul collins (the nerves/paul collins beat) changing into his pajama pants. boy was i red in the face.

i stayed at jeff magnum of the dead boys house. he put us up in his basement/rock'n'roll bunker, which was filled with his record collection and dead boys memorabilia (photos, original tour posters with the dead boys and damned, etc). he was a very gracious host! he has been a guest on my radio show several times.

i hung out in a basement with jesco white the dancing outlaw. jesco lifted up his shirt and showed me his tattoos (specifically elvis/manson on his back). then he squeezed his nipple and sang songs at me. he's something else.

Hard to pick just one but what about the Demolition Doll Rods? All three were totally nude when I met them backstage at Brownie's in NYC. One time a clubowner caught Danny naked in the ladies' room and cancelled the show on the spot. The cops were called and someone (me) launched and M-100 at 'em. Once in Boston a drunk jock was making google eyes at Danny onstage until he found out Danny was a dude then he got hostile. Danny turned around and stuck his ass in the guy's face and spread. The audience went wild and the jock stormed out in a fit of homosexual panic. Once the Slicks were on tour and Margaret gave us rolls of admission tickets in four different colors so we never ran out of drink tickets at clubs. Margaret and Christine used to do yoga in our front yard when they'd stay over, attracting a lot of gawkers (ok, maybe just one).

ronettes - be my baby

vibrators - baby baby

duprees - you belong to me

ritchie valens - we belong together

headgirl - please don't touch

johnny kidd and the pirates - shakin all over

Screeching Weasel -Your name is tattooed on my heart . Rancid - She's automatic.

EDIT I can;t seem to use the media link thing right...  The song is Safety Pin Stuck in my Heart by Patrick Fitzgerald. 

Wife and I walked down the aisle to this one, I still get a little love milage out of it from time to time.

~T

THE 5TH DIMENSION "age of aquarius"

ZAGER AND EVANS "in the year 2525"

GERRY RAFFERTY "baker street"

WARREN ZEVON "werewolves of london"

PAUL MCCARTNEY "wonderful christmastime"

COMMODORES "brick house"

WILD CHERRY "play that funky music"

4 NON BLONDES "what's up"

PJ HARVEY "down by the water"

DONOVON "hurdy gurdy man"

I hate a lot of songs...but there's nothing more than I hate than Queen - bohemian rhapsody. I can't tell if it's a joke or serious, the entire song & Brian Mays guitar work should be cited as the biggest influence to Wayne's World. And how people tune into this crap for 6 damn minutes boggles me.

Ahhhh...

Dead Kennedys

Misfits

Bad Religion

Open Wound

Black Flag

Soft Boys

Minutemen

GBH

Minor Threat

White House

Ramones

Pagans

Dead Boys

Saints

Consumers

Black Flag

X-Ray Spex

Buzzcocks

Sex Pistols

Germs

Limited list to ramalama type bands not 60's punkers or swamprockers like Cramps and Scientists.

Hi Gonzo,

I guess this is a good place to start, it's a nice compilation and gives a good view on his work...

Cheers, Doc

Gonzo said:

Christ....anyone got any ideas where I can start ?

Christ....anyone got any ideas where I can start ?

Thanks for that link.  I ordered a used copy for $10.

I've seen three documentaries that are spaced out over several years.  The first was an indy release and the second two were BBC productions (I think).  I don't think I've seen BCID.

Recordgrooves said:

Picked up a DVD on clearance from Amazon a while back for about 5bucks, 80 minutes of Milkshakes & Thee Headcoats.

 

"The Genius Of Billy Childish" 2004 Cherry Red Records

 

Link

 

Amazing the stuff you find on Amazon not on the IMDb

I love Billy.

I love the Who, but my Dad started playing it for me when I was probably like 7 or 8, so I didn't really think "Gee, what else sounds like this?"  Kind've a complex synthesis for an 8-year-old, no?  A little different now.

Marques De Valia said:

i wonder what you think of the who.

Alex said:

I've gotta respect Kurt Cobain if only for the fact that grunge was really the first type of music I cared about, and it started my lifelong obsession with music.  That kind of music really encouraged me to seek out tunes other than those which my friends or parents were listening to.

That line about being unoriginal is a compliment by the way, Kopper!!!

Eargasm said:

Just about every band this site is dedicated to is unoriginal just by the definition...garage was a 60's phenomenom and punk was a 70's thing..what Cobain did was molded his passion for 60', 70's and 80's garage, punk, and metal with a genius for pop sensibility..he was also very generous with his influences, and many of them got well deserved recognition and paychecks because of his selflesness..like a well know musician once said about him..'It's scary when you get a real one'....

Just about every band this site is dedicated to is unoriginal just by the definition...garage was a 60's phenomenom and punk was a 70's thing..what Cobain did was molded his passion for 60', 70's and 80's garage, punk, and metal with a genius for pop sensibility..he was also very generous with his influences, and many of them got well deserved recognition and paychecks because of his selflesness..like a well know musician once said about him..'It's scary when you get a real one'....

I respect your view Marques as I used to get pissed of about the state of mainstream culture too.
I'v learned not to pay attention to it hence my reason for joining sites like this. Here i'm associated with people on a similar wavelength. I like what i like and to be honest don't give a shit about "the industry". Sometimes being naive is allot more fun than being bitter and disgusted.
Marques De Valia said:

i liked what you had to say, so 'no offense' but something reminding me of Nirvana would be a reason for me NOT to rush to find it to listen to. although it might be good.

 

shortly after grunge died a couple of other things happened, it seems now like the death of rock radio, TOTALLY like its death was a preordained thing.

 

napster was destroyed.   destroyed!  i remember the original napster and it wasn't hurting anyone at ALL.  

who was offended?  basically the greedy and untalented who seek to exploit talent, people in the INDUSTRY...

 

then clearchannel.   clearchannel own most united states radio stations, i believe... a LOT of things contributed to people basically becoming more stupid than cool, and that's how it seems now. did i just 'wake up' and notice all the brutal dumbness?

 

i started focusing more on making music like i HAD TO because i realised that something had died,

but when things die, they serve a purpose: they make room for something new.

 

people getting into music because they think they can get money and get their asses kissed in various ways, that's nothing new.    but it hurts most when things border punk and kiss ass for $$$ because:  that was supposed to be less susceptible to corruption, anything smacking of anarchy or defiance. (no pun intended: smacking; nirvana, bleah.)

 

all in all i trust EVERYONE more but i trust INDIVIDUALS much less.

i have met so many people who were utterly insincere, who put most of their efforts into insisting that people who didn't conform to their view about alternative culture, the underground, scenes were "lying to themselves."

 

oh yeah, and the anti-emo thing, that was plenty Nazi.  emo was the new jew for a few weeks...

 

just seeing the conformity thing become all important, it wasn't the death of the individual,

it was more like the individual had to HIDE because the fascists, the chavs, the stupid brutal and dominant had come to rule scenes.   i am bitter and disgusted, and relate most easily to those who share my point of view.

Welcome Joey!!

The Smiths are cool. NMA (sic) aren't, never have been, never will be.

Mr. Neg

South London

Doc Sanchez said:

There's absolutely nothing wrong with not liking NMA. If you want to check them out I'd also say to go for their old stuff. I stopped listening to them in '94, and even that's pretty late , and the albums after '94 pretty much sucked. And it's definitely true, they sound really dated from today's point of view.

 

I always liked their folky tunes more than their "rock" songs, and my favourite album is "Thunder & Consolation", but that's probably because that's the first album I knew by them, and it did console me as a teenie... And besides, their folk songs really don't sound that dated.

 

Still, when NMA were cool (in the 80's), they rocked, even though I hardly listen to them anymore.

 

Cheers, Doc

 

P.S.: And how do you like The Smiths, by the way?

twin reverb ftw! new spring reverb.

g&l legacy and gibson sg standard and very old gibson accoustic guitar from the 40tys or 50tys.

some yellow mudhoney overdrive, vox wahwah, peace of shit fuzz from beringer

and more peace of shit petals that aren't worth for mention.

yeah