in the good old days like the '60s and '80s garage was what it was beacause the axes (the much neglected fender jaguar a prime example), the amps (silvertone 1483 anyone?) and your pedals (like the beautiful mosrite fuzzrite) where cheap as hell, what happened?

also about modern cheap gear i prefer the old ones tones most modern ones are either with buckers or generic strat p/ups old oes are so much more cool sounding

You're kidding yourself if you think cheap 60's stuff was great. I've got a Futurama Sophomore and a Vox Clubman - they're both wall hangers, not gigable guitars.

 

That Silvertone amp would be about $800 now allowing for inflation. Not really cheap.

ha

 

maybe BRMC can help your problem :)

Yep, spot on. There are a lot of great guitars coming out of Korea these days. Most of them up to spec with the more expensive Japanese models available. Check them out and remember you can always modify them to suit your personal taste.

The Raw Cuts said:

not true. I have 2 'cheap' korean build guitars and they play great. even the local luthier said they are really well made guitars. overcome your prejudices and give them a try ;-)

dying slowly said:

good plan but i dont like todays cheap stuff they so poorly made compared to old ones

Schecters are Korean made, and have a fit and finish which certainly surpasses some of the stock Gibsons I've seen... have also heard favorable things about certain Chinese Esquire models, which shame US Fenders.  Heard about "lawsuit" guitars from Japan?.. the Japanese certainly put out ther share of low-quality crap through the sixties, but in the late Seventies and early Eighties they really got their shit together, and concerning Korean/Chinese stuff I think history is in the process of repeating itself.

The Raw Cuts said:

not true. I have 2 'cheap' korean build guitars and they play great. even the local luthier said they are really well made guitars. overcome your prejudices and give them a try ;-)

dying slowly said:

good plan but i dont like todays cheap stuff they so poorly made compared to old ones

not true. I have 2 'cheap' korean-built guitars and they play great. even the local luthier said they are really well-made guitars. overcome your prejudices and give them a try ;-)

dying slowly said:

good plan but i dont like todays cheap stuff they so poorly made compared to old ones

that was only commercial ones like the 5th estate the really lo-fi BFTG-style bands had cheap gear and anyway the gibsons used would be cheap ones like the lp jr or melody maker.

fair coment for the fenders but compard to gibsons they where affordable

By the way, the 60's garage bands, didn't use cheap stuff. If you check out the photos, they had Fenders, Gibsons, Ricks etc rather than Silvertones and Danelectros.

good plan but i dont like todays cheap stuff they so poorly made compared to old ones

just get today's cheap stuff, it will be vintage and expensive in 30 years ;-)

the rock is coming back believe me son

Oh, Okay... you're referring to vintage stuff.

Well first of all, in the 60's it was new – not vintage, but certainly not cheap... and nowadays, equipment from the 80's is considered vintage :)... so the surviving axes/amps (they haven't exactly multiplied) from the 60's are actually halfway antiques. I guess prices will reflect that.

yeah it just annoys me ,im 14 and english so all the good stuff is eithe too expensive or in america

If you're talking about the vintage boom of the early 2000's then I have one word for you; greed.

 

Cheaper in the 60's and 80's?!.. I beg to differ!

Probably, Kurt Cobain and Jack White!

Um, inflation?