which songs do you feel are accepted garage standards (ie louie louie, gloria) and what do you feel should be? i'll say the mummies' "planet of the apes" and the outsiders' cover of "summertimes blues."

OK , I stayed out of this argument , but , I'm with you on that one , and no one should have to stand alone as a Seeds fan . Especially in the context of Garage fandom. The Ramones also had a whole helluva lot of songs that sounded alike , or only moderately dissimilar , and a dearly departed singer that a lot of folks said could'nt sing. That's the beauty of it ! Sky Saxon was'nt the first to say "Fuck a singing lesson , let's Rock'n'Roll" , but he was the missing link from Jagger to Iggy and Johnny Rotten. They had so many great songs , especially on the first and second albums , and various oddball cuts like "Satisfy You" , "The Gypsy Plays The Drums" , "Wild Blood" (Think a good thought for Kim Fowley.), "Did He Die" , etc.   I'm not even suggesting people go do psychedelics , but , I don't doubt what Hicksville Hogwash is saying is true....The Seeds straddled that line from Garage Punk to early Psych so effortlessly. They never claimed to have a complicated sound , but , it was unique , especially if you can imagine what it must have sounded like to people , back then , when most bands of their ilk did'nt even DO LPs.  Still , you get it or you don't , and it's OK if you don't.

"Pushin' Too Hard" , I'd say , was more or less an instant standard.
 
hicksville hogwash said:

Try and reconsider The Seeds (and being hyped!  ...errr when?)  The Seeds are the only band I could listen to forever (sad but true).  They like Bo Diddley felt their groove so strongly that most every song/album is based on one or two chords.  

Sure Sky's voice is whiny but he is a magician of subliminal psychedelic messaging transforming into your trip guide by harnessing the primal power of the animal, plant and fungal kingdoms.  I hate to push drugs on you but with psychedelics the Seeds are better than 99.66% of "psychedelic bands"  they Pushed the envelope..... They were one of the first, IMHO the Doors ripped their entire act and sound ....

"Pushing too Hard" should be a standard ....

dying slowly said:

i can never get into the seeds i guess they got to hyped up for me

You're already on the right track with "( I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone". It's been a standard for centuries , and one of the very first Punk anthems , from Paul Revere and The Raiders' middle finger in yer face original to The Monkees' better known version , which still kills , to the innumerable covers that followed in their wake ,  and never cease to , as the song approaches the 50 year mark....
 
kletzl said:

It's "Moulty", actually

kletzl said:

Wild Thing - The Troggs

Mouldy - The Barbarians 

 "Stepping Stone" or you "You ain't no friend of mine" should be standards as well.

I heard it last night for the first time.  Very Yardbirds influenced.  And it was easier to find once a band name had been supplied.  First thing Google wanted to search for was Fords made between '80 and '96. 

Alex said:

Yes, by the Dantes.  Sorry I forgot to mention that!  It's an instrumental.  No doubt you've heard it before.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Hmmm, I'm not familiar with that one.  Thanks for adding a name to the song. Now Googling won't be next to impossible.

Mole said:

80-96 by The Dantes?

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What's 80-96.  Also kudos to adding Stolen Moments to this list as it's such an overlooked song.  You're list looks like one I would have written (but we never did get around to playing these though because my band thought they were TOO well known).

Yes, by the Dantes.  Sorry I forgot to mention that!  It's an instrumental.  No doubt you've heard it before.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Hmmm, I'm not familiar with that one.  Thanks for adding a name to the song. Now Googling won't be next to impossible.

Mole said:

80-96 by The Dantes?

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What's 80-96.  Also kudos to adding Stolen Moments to this list as it's such an overlooked song.  You're list looks like one I would have written (but we never did get around to playing these though because my band thought they were TOO well known).

Hmmm, I'm not familiar with that one.  Thanks for adding a name to the song. Now Googling won't be next to impossible.

Mole said:

80-96 by The Dantes?

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What's 80-96.  Also kudos to adding Stolen Moments to this list as it's such an overlooked song.  You're list looks like one I would have written (but we never did get around to playing these though because my band thought they were TOO well known).

80-96 by The Dantes?

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

What's 80-96.  Also kudos to adding Stolen Moments to this list as it's such an overlooked song.  You're list looks like one I would have written (but we never did get around to playing these though because my band thought they were TOO well known).

Seeds maybe [although Out Of The Question and Evil Hoodoo are smart] but Prunes?? Surely not...?

Axel Björnsson said:

 

The Seeds and Electric Prunes have always been so mediocrity for me. You can find way better 60's tunes than these gentlemen were doing..

What's 80-96.  Also kudos to adding Stolen Moments to this list as it's such an overlooked song.  You're list looks like one I would have written (but we never did get around to playing these though because my band thought they were TOO well known).

Alex said:

Just a short list here...

 

Hey Joe

Louie, Louie

Money (That's What I Want)

I'm a Man

Wine, Wine, Wine

Route 66

Dirty Robber

Roll Over Beethoven

What a Way to Die

Stolen Moments

Unchain My Heart

In the Midnight Hour

Johnny B. Goode

Shake, Rattle, & Roll

You Really Got Me

Til the End of the Day

Jenny, Jenny

Long Tall Sally

Skinny Minnie

Wipe Out

Gloria

Little Latin Lupe Lu

Hang on Sloopy

House of the Rising Sun

Sometimes Good Guys Don't Wear White

I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone

Walk Don't Run

Pipeline

Miserlou

Rumble

Hanky Panky

Shakin' All Over

Walkin the Dog

Not Fade Away

Ooh Poo Pa Doo

Shake A Tail Feather

Summertime Blues

Mojo Workout

California Sun

Who Do You Love

Bald Headed Woman

I Can Only Give You Everything

Land of 1,000 Dances

Shake a Tail Feather

Smokestack Lightning

Train Kept a Rollin'

Bald Headed Woman

Bo Diddley

Come On Up

House of the Rising Sun

Little Black Egg

My Generation

Unchain My Heart

My Flash on You

80-96

If authenticity reigns supreme... the only cover a true garage band should undertake is Route 66 or Little Latin Lupe-lu, every band from the 60s hey day would have played these two songs in their set, no doubt about it.

Gloria is a standard that has stood the test of time too.

Paul

I have changed my opinion on the seeds and grew to love them. And when I say hype its just people and the web kept describing them as so raw and mental and I guess they simply wern't as deranged as I thought they would be.

hicksville hogwash said:

Try and reconsider The Seeds (and being hyped!  ...errr when?)  The Seeds are the only band I could listen to forever (sad but true).  They like Bo Diddley felt their groove so strongly that most every song/album is based on one or two chords.  

Sure Sky's voice is whiny but he is a magician of subliminal psychedelic messaging transforming into your trip guide by harnessing the primal power of the animal, plant and fungal kingdoms.  I hate to push drugs on you but with psychedelics the Seeds are better than 99.66% of "psychedelic bands"  they Pushed the envelope..... They were one of the first, IMHO the Doors ripped their entire act and sound ....

"Pushing too Hard" should be a standard ....

dying slowly said:

i can never get into the seeds i guess they got to hyped up for me

Try and reconsider The Seeds (and being hyped!  ...errr when?)  The Seeds are the only band I could listen to forever (sad but true).  They like Bo Diddley felt their groove so strongly that most every song/album is based on one or two chords.  

Sure Sky's voice is whiny but he is a magician of subliminal psychedelic messaging transforming into your trip guide by harnessing the primal power of the animal, plant and fungal kingdoms.  I hate to push drugs on you but with psychedelics the Seeds are better than 99.66% of "psychedelic bands"  they Pushed the envelope..... They were one of the first, IMHO the Doors ripped their entire act and sound ....

"Pushing too Hard" should be a standard ....

dying slowly said:

i can never get into the seeds i guess they got to hyped up for me

:)

hicksville hogwash said:

Hogwash's research has uncovered that thee "garage" standards should only be tunes that are covers of another cover, until the original artists versions tune, lyrics, timing is lost in the confusion.  

So under these conditions thee standards should begin with: Louie Louie, Surfin' Bird/Pah Ooh Mow Mow, Empty Heart, Suzie Q, Summertime Blues, Gloria........

Hogwash's research has uncovered that thee "garage" standards should only be tunes that are covers of another cover, until the original artists versions tune, lyrics, timing is lost in the confusion.  

So under these conditions thee standards should begin with: Louie Louie, Surfin' Bird/Pah Ooh Mow Mow, Empty Heart, Suzie Q, Summertime Blues, Gloria........

i'm surprised nobody's said Del Shannon's "Runaway."

Watch Outside by the Mono Men

I Need You by The Kinks.

The Stones She Said Yeah.

Heart full of soul

 

i sing im bigger than yuo to my midget freind

Empty Heart (Stones), Steppin' Stone (Raiders) are well-covered classics. For new stuff, I like the Mummies' Wild Fuck, and I'm bigger than you.

Primitives , the groupies

Of course !!!!

Zentralheizung of Death said:

the tamrons  - wild man

agreed all above

dont forget

gories sister ann

detroit cobras cha cha twist

oh and u think this on meets the criteria?

come on by the atlantics

i think you guys got it spot on

oh what would we do without garage rock

btw throw the lyres in there somewhere too

definitely Psycho by The Sonics or Cant seem to make you mine by The Seeds. 

I would also consider All of the Night by The Kinks although that might be just me.