A disco/pop queen, and a hip hop group inducted ? R&R Hall of fame has made up their own definition of rock & roll over the years. Go figure ?

The accent varies from town to town in the UK JB, the town 8 miles from me has a completely different accent to us. All the big cities have a different dialect and the smaller towns/villages near them have variations, you can pick the rough area someones from very easily here.

Only people from Newcastle would consider themselves Geordies, not even Sunderland or Middlesborough which are next to it are, they're from the north east.

The black country is Birmingham, Wolverhampton etc. but only people from Birmingham are Brummies, confused?? I am!

Moxie is a character from "auf wiedersehen pet', hes a Scouser, from Liverpool, the north west. Cant remember where his nick name came from. Its a good programme to watch to hear a lot of English accents. Pat Roach, aka 'Bomber" on the programme is from Bristol so you get all points of England covered. 

Bostin used to mean that something was good, and was used by Fuzzbox for their album for that reason, Bostin Steve Austin was also used, it was a Birmingham slang term.

Hope that helps, it probably doesn't, even living here I sometimes struggle with people if their accents are very broad, and then when you try to understand Aberdonians or someone from Devon! Help! subtitles please!
John Battles said:

OK , YOU'VE KIND OF LOST ME , AND YET , I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN TO SAY. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD , BY ENGLISH PEOPLE , THAT PEOPLE THAT FAR NORTH , BLACK COUNTRY INCLUDED , WERE GEORDIES.  
IF (AND WHEN) THAT WAS A GENERALIZATION , IT WAS'NT MEANT AS ONE.

TO FURTHER GENERALIZE : YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU MEET AN AMERICAN THAT EVEN KNOWS NORTHERNERS AND SOUTHERNERS  IN ENGLAND HAVE DIFFERENT ACCENTS , AND BOTH DIFFER FROM LONDONERS. THAT'S ME GENERALIZING ABOUT MY COUNTRYMEN , BUT , IT'S TRUE , UNLESS YOU'VE TRAVELLED BRITAIN , TIP TO TOE (MAYBE AUSTIN VINCE WILL LET ME DO A GUEST SPOT AS THE "OUT OF IT AMERICAN TOURIST"ON ONE OF HIS ROAD TRIP SHOWS !) , YOU WOULD'NT BE AWARE OF THAT. OF COURSE , IT'S THAT WAY , HERE , TOO , BUT , I THINK WE THINK OF OUR COUNTRY AS HAVING HALF A DOZEN ACCENTS , INSTEAD OF GOD KNOWS HOW MANY.....

SO , IS "BOSTIN'" A VARIATION OF BIRMINGHAMSPEAK , THEN ? IT'S AN INNOCENT QUESTION , I REALLY DON'T KNOW. I ONLY KNEW THAT EXPRESSION FROM THE (UK) FUZZBOX LP. AND , "MOXIE" ? IS THAT AN ABBREVIATION FOR A WELL KNOWN TOWN?

IN THE US , MOXIE MEANS BALLS , AND /OR A BRAND OF SODA THAT I THINK IS STILL MADE IN VERY LIMITED QUANTITIES.
Mark George Harrison said:

Bloody hell JB! you can't call someone from the 'black country' a geordie! Both as difficult to understand but a lot different. If you watch an old episode of 'auf wiedersen pet' to hear geordies (os, Dennis and Neville) and Barry (a brummie) you also get a scouser in Moxie and a 'cockney' in Wayne. A nice little mix of English dialects with a bit of German thrown in as well! 'Barry' (Timothy Spall) is actually a cockney in real life but his accent is really good, in fact its 'Bostin" as they say in Brum!

John Battles said:

Mark George , I almost forgot about the "Buddy Holly "album that turns out to be Richie Valens  !!!! THAT'S ALL KINDS OF WRONG . Maybe they could'nt get permission to actually use a Buddy Holly NUMBER (EXCEPT FOR A TITLE) , AND RINGO'S FORMER BANDMATE WAS A FEW YEARS AWAY FROM OWNING HOLLY'S BACK CATALOGUE. In any case , why not just show the record , but not play it , or say "Hey , This is the Richie Valens record I waited for."

It's not Rocket Surgery. I REMEMBER READING SOME REVIEWS OF "SLADE in "FLAME" " , complaining that it was'nt the latter day " Hard Day's Night" fans expected....But , maybe , it's that it WAS'NT what anyone had a right to expect that makes it a better film , today.

I just say , to anyone who's never seen it , look at it with an open mind. They were exposing their distaste with an industry that had opened so many doors for them , but , now, was showing them the door. They kept making good records. I'm not saying they were remarkably consistent , but their early 80's "All guns blazing" comeback with Reading , "Slade on Stage " , "We'll Bring The House Down" , etc., took no prisoners , I don't think even their hardcore fans saw it coming. They almost became stars in America soon after, too , with "Run , Run Away" , but were'nt able to tour, in earnest , to capitalize on it's success. Rather, they refused to , Jimmy Lea , I think , was in a car crash , and they refused to tour, with a stand -in ,  until he recovered. 

I think the movie flopped in America , not because Slade were unknown. I knew 'em , and I was 10 or 11 years old , but , they did have a limited audience , and they fought harder than Bolan or Sweet to get ahold of a US following and KEEP it. It flopped because we don't speak Geordie ! Of course , today , Viz comics have proven a great boon to me in that department.
Mark George Harrison said:

never seen the Roky film, shall have a look for it.

Stardust is ok for its time, took me a while to realise Ringo had been replaced with Adam Faith, with a limp from when he got beaten up in TBTD!

My favourite bit in TBTD is when David Essex picks up a Buddy Holly album and says he's waited ages to play it, puts it on the dansette and Richie Valens starts crooning Donna!

Slade in Fame was dark as you say JB, I remember it coming out at the time and Slade fans were really disappointed because it wasn't what they expected, it is as you say really well acted, might have a look on Amazon for a copy.

John Battles said:

The Stray Cats in "That'll Be The Day" was a fictional band built around Dave Edmunds. I know you knew that , but , it reads like you were referring to  the well known band of that name (SADLY , The Rockabilly Revival  pretty much began and ended in America with them .). I've never seen "Stardust " , though. "The Stray Cats " were credited on the soundtrack.

Setzer claims it was a coincidence that his future producer's movie band had the same name as his real - life band. If you liked that band, though , you'll love Nilsson's pub band in "Son of Dracula "- Moon , Bonham , Frampton and Entwistle or Voorman , I forget , they all go by so fast , except Keith , who gets , like , a minute - long drum solo.

You know , I've only watched "Slade in Flame", once. I was surprised that they could really ACT. It's got a very dark tone for a good - timey band like Slade , though they were about to enter their own Dark Ages. They were getting heavily into not - so heavy tunes , but , the soundtrack holds up well. You've got to love Noddy's Screaming Lord Sutch parody , too.

There was serious talk of a biopic on Roky , several years ago , but , it never came about. Perhaps it will , someday.....

It's true , if they really told his story , a lot of people would'nt believe it.

Roky's Son , Jegar , did a very good short film , in which he portrays his Dad. Even though he favors his Mom , Dana , he went to great lengths to make himself look uncannily like Roky.

Tex & The Horseheads were part of that original LA cow punk scene. Didnt love everything they did, but most of it. Fun live too.

Did anyone ever see Ragin ' Fire ? Did'nt like the name , but , I sure liked the group. They kicked out thE Country / Punk / Rock'n'Roll jams like nobody's biz , in a manner comparable to X , but , as I told their singer , Melora Zaner , THEY SOUNDED LIKE PATSY CLINE GONE TO HELL AND COME BACK.
 
John Battles said:

When this album came out , I saw The Gibson Bros. for the second time , with Jon Spencer in tow ( I liked him fine , with The Gibsons.), and The Gories opening. 
 
Joey Fuckup said:

Haha, so true John!

John Battles said:

And he means the ALBUM , not the girl on the cover.
 
joey fuckup said:

Another one I've got to get my hands on!

swt said:

And don't forget The Gibson Bros. I like the album they did with Workdogs, Punk Rock Drivin' Song of a Gun.

 

 

When this album came out , I saw The Gibson Bros. for the second time , with Jon Spencer in tow ( I liked him fine , with The Gibsons.), and The Gories opening. 
 
Joey Fuckup said:

Haha, so true John!

John Battles said:

And he means the ALBUM , not the girl on the cover.
 
joey fuckup said:

Another one I've got to get my hands on!

swt said:

And don't forget The Gibson Bros. I like the album they did with Workdogs, Punk Rock Drivin' Song of a Gun.

 

 

Best compilations of 2012

The 3 latest editions of the "Best of the GaragePunk Hideout"

Vol.7 "We Love Trash"
Vol.8 "Supercharged Sounds"
Vol.9 "Garage Monsters"

Amazing that there are now 9 volumes in such a short time. All packed with great tunes.

How could I have forgotten - Riot Fest , Chicago.

IGGY AND THE STOOGES - So fine to hear them with a GOOD sound system , for a change. Straight James was ON FIRE. Iggy The Schlong could do NO WRONG !

Jesus and Mary Chain - No early single sIDES , maybe one track from the first LP , if even.....But plenty of fuzz emanting from those Orange amps. Almost like a teen Garage band , at times.

Elvis Costello - Never was much of a fan , esp. not these days , but he stuck to the early stuff , and his band was Pub Rock as Hell.

Golgol Bordello - Sorry , did'nt get it.

White Mystery - Local sibling curly redheaded duo. Their Mom was at the Disco Demolition !

Only caught the tail end of their set . Sounded good.

Apart from the fact that I was on the guest list , and was still refused enrtry without a paid ticket, and missing Horton Heat because it took two hours to get there on The CTA , this was almost as good as The (abortive) Intonation Fest.

Best BOOK (and just in time fer da holly-daze):KRAMPUS, The Yule Lord, by Brom

It's a book about, well, Krampus, a kind of Anti-Klaus.

Gorgeous artwork, too. Mike Mignola likes it, sounds like a must-have to me!

TtHE BONE DRIVERS ALSO DID A LOT OF CRAMPS OR RELATED STUFF - Human Fly , I'm Cramped , The Crusher , New Kind of Kick , Psychotic Reaction , Surfin Bird , etc.

Their Drummer , Bob Woodrum , went on to work for The Cramps ,eventually becoming Road Manager.

Chicago Punk Polka Practitioners , The Polkaholics , have recently taken to doing a medley of Human Fly and Hava Nagila ! Others.......

Crookshanks - Naked Girl Falling Down The Stairs.

Divine Horsemen - Voodoo Idol.

Dyes - The Way I Walk , Goo Goo Muck , etc. - They also do an all - Cramps set each Hallowe'en.

Kid Congo Poweers and The Pink MONKEY BIRDS - I'm Cramped , Goo Goo Muck.

Thee Amazing Heebie Jeebies - Garbageman.

 I thought it actually sounded all right. Paul on stage with one of the Germs . I never thought I'd see the day.

I'm all for raising as much funds as possible.

I think Paul would bring out media and donations alone. 

Just an odd mix up.

A Mick & Paul song together (or Mick & Bowie) would be awesome, but the Nirvana/John thing just makes me shake my head. I understand the big picture, but it just feels so wrong.

I think it would be more amusing to see Paul play with Oasis minus Liam. 

I'd rather see him with Scotty Moore and DJ Fontana , again , but , that's just me.

I think the thing is , they're trying to raise as much money as possible for Hurricane Sandy victims , so , they're putting together the biggest names possible to drum up more attention.

I guess someone figured , if McCartney  and the two surviving members of Nirvana (Excluding Pat Smear.) were available , separately , to perform , why not have them perform together?

OK , The fact that Paul copped to not knowing who they were , I guess , is a big why not.

But , there was no way they were going to let them do this without a superstar frontman at the wheel. Greg Sage would make sense , if on a smaller scale , but , people want names. We know him , but most people don't.

Really?  I was thinking maybe Greg Sage would be a better candidate...

In case you didn't hear Paul will join Dave & Krist to front Nirvana for charity tonight.

Anything to help the victims of hurricane Sandy. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/paul-mccartney-nirvana-dave-grohl-krist-novoselic_n_2284347.html

I'm still processing this...

Found it (t'aint cheap) Dance halls, armories, and teen fairs, by Don Rogers

Hey Guise,

wasn't there a book published in the 80s, called something like "Teen Fairs and Armory Halls"?

Can't find info at the moment, but it was mentioned in the liner notes of (I think) Highs in the mid-sixties, [northwest, v. 2]

Exactly. i don't know if it's that Townsend is embarrassed by anything he did that displayed some humor , or if , well , he knows what side his bread is buttered on.....I mean , I saw The Who , once , in 1980. They were'nt really promoting anything (The "Quadrophenia" film was current , but , it was'nt like they were doing THE WHOLE DAMN ALBUM , like they are , now , and have done so for decades. Not exclusively , but , I'd say more than enough.) , so it was basically a "Best of " show , better known stuff From "Can't Explain" to "Who Are You'', but , any live sets I've seen listed , or heard , since then , seldom strayed from that set list. Now , The Stones have been the same for years , in that their "Fans" only want to hear the same 20 songs , but , in 2003 , and even earlier , they started doing as many smaller venues as possible , throwing in a lot of obscure (To "The fans" , not necessarily to us.) tunes of their own , as well as a lot of Soul and Blues covers , and even the Jagger/Tosh duet , "(Walk and ) Don't Look Back" , plus throwing in more songs from "Let it Bleed" and "Sticky Fingers" in their stadium shows.

I heard a crude recording of the recent London show , and , yep , Jagger made a crack about doing the whole of "Satanic Majesties" , like that would be a BAD thing. To the "Fans" , yes. Since they're promoting yet another "Greatest Hits " package , barring "I Wanna Be Your Man" , there were'nt too many off the wall selections . When I saw that Jeff Beck (Once a Yardbird , almost a Stone. Sent home with "Does'nt play well with others" on his report card.) was playing on "I'm Going Down '', I wondered if it was the little known song that appeared on "Metamorphosis" or the Blues/Rock standard. Of course , it was the latter , but Beck KILLED it . IT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE , BEFORE THEY START THROWING IN SOME RINGERS WHEN THE TOUR GOES STATESIDE.......And , for those out there who have two grand to hear the same 20 songs, if that's how it's going to go down , they should'nt be disappointed. To think , I thought $18 was highway robbery to see The Stones in '81. In the 90's , they did keep their ticket prices down , compared to your Eagles and your Pink Floyds , but , I was'nt as interested in seeing them (I would have, for FREE!) until I actually saw Chuck Berry give a great show , after purposely avoiding him for years , and figured I should give The Stones another chance. Plus , they finally put out a solid album.

The Stones set list I saw for a fundraiser in Brooklyn showed only the two new songs as anything from the last 30 years.  Everything else (even if it wasn't that oddball except for I Wanna Be Your Man) was from Start Me Up and before but mostly concentrating on the Jimmy Miller years plus major hits from 1965-1967.  I laughed at an interview that promised the Her Satanic Majesty's Request album in its entirety but that goes to show that really do think about their past more than the Who really do.  It seems like Townshend only wants to talk about works he saw as triumphs after a lot of adversity.  He won't joke about Dogs.
 
John Battles said:

You're probably right. I just don't think The Who presented themselves with too many challenges these past 30 years , as far as throwing oddball songs into their set , the way The Stones have.

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

I think it may have been part of their set in the UK for a short while but probably wasn't here.

John Battles said:

Think you've got something there with that medley idea , Rockin' Rod. "Call Me Lightning" ALWAYS GOT SWEPT UNDER THE RUG , even tho' it was a lesser US hit. I doubt it was ever in their live set , but , WHO NOSE , I MEAN , KNOWS?

HELLOOOOOO! iF YOU'RE STILL HERE , THANK YOU.

Seriously , this one's really funny.

"Easy Come , Easy Go" - Elvis Presley.

The line is actually : "So many girls , in every port . You've got to be a juggernaut.".

BUT , it sounds exactly like "You've gotta be a - jerkin' off" !!!

Extensive efforts were made on the part of The Estate of Elvis Presley , and probably Priscilla and The Colonel , to create the illusion that Elvis never cussed. A Thousand studio outtakes have since nuked that idea to smithereens. Unfortunately , the two best parts of "This Is Elvis " were later censored for home video. Whether he meant to say what it sounds exactly like he was saying , here.....WELL , HE WAS MISERABLE , DOING ALL THESE MOVIES , WHY COULD'NT HE HAVE HAD A FEW LAUGHS?

No to forget the "Thorns and their I want you" http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kqs_bbwOZf4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dkqs_bbwOZf4

http://paradiseofgaragecomps.blogspot.it/2012/09/older-posts-reupload.html Some of the links (all from 2009) don't work anymore, but most of them are still accessible...

I wouldn't call Duane Eddy country twang.....big bottom end guitar yes but not country twang.

The ones you mention are great. Louvin Brothers, great harmonies. All the artists you mention I love on vinyl. Play them alot. Junior Brown heck yeah. I love his "Guit-Steel Blues" song. Amazingly twangy.

Wayward mentioned Lefty. Gotta have Lefty.

Glad I found this thread. Hoping to meet others who love the ol twang of country.

Big fan of Sabbath here too. Love Kyuss, Overkill, Testament, Flotsam & Jetsom........witchfinder.......hell I could have just said "ditto"

Alex said:

This guy.  Big fan of the Sabbath, of course.  I also dig Saint Vitus (saw them live last year, and they put on quite a show), Kyuss, Sleep, The Sword, Buzzoven, Electric Wizard, Graveyard, Harvey Milk, Melvins, Monster Magnet, Orange Goblin, Pagan Altar, Red Fang, Witchfinder General, and Whores (more recent, album was produced by someone from Harvey Milk).

In a little more of a punk direction (and probably more appropriate for this website), I really like Lecherous Gaze (definitely a heavy Black Flag influence) and Witch (J. Masics plays drums in this punk/metal group).

Found this today:

"Think of a world where ART is the only motivation."
Rob Tyner , Liner notes , "High Time". 
dave said:

The music Business doesn't particulary like anything to be desperately dangerous. Popular taste is, ultimately, very conventional. And if you don't slot into that category, then you will find it fairly hard to survive in the music business.

- Geoffrey Haslam, producer, the MC5's High Time