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    • July 6, 2012 11:19 AM CDT


    • Sean G. said:

      After obsessing over the hilarity of this vid, I finally found the single at the bottom of a crate at the local record shop. Only 3 bucks!

      I found a nice copy of this for about the same price several years ago.

      Favorite 45s is such a board question. One day it could be Motorhead - The Bomber, Next day VOM - Live at Surf City, then maybe T-Rex 20th Century Boy, on to K&K -  Quick Joey Small, Bobby Peterson - Mamma Get Your Hammer, Fun Things ep, Small Faces - Lazy Sunday Afternoon, Hollies - Look Through Any Window, Mickey Lee Lane - Hey Sha-Lo-Ney, Lemon Pipers - Jelly Jungle (Of Orange Mamalade).... too many to name.

      I definitely think 45s are the best format. And as G. Wood mentioned, I too, unfortunately am obsessed with obtaining picture sleeves, but I am more interested in the music.

      Most recently I've been buying bubblegum/ psych, and glam. But that's not to say I over look metal or punk sections.

    • July 5, 2012 5:43 PM CDT
    • And this SuperElectro 7"
      by The Fall-Outs
      Sleep b/w It's A Shame, Talk

    • July 5, 2012 5:09 PM CDT
    • This one gets the most regular spins around my house.

    • July 5, 2012 2:41 PM CDT
    • Underdog by Sly and the family stone 

      Liars liars by the castaways

    • July 5, 2012 2:39 PM CDT
    • After obsessing over the hilarity of this vid, I finally found the single at the bottom of a crate at the local record shop. Only 3 bucks!

    • July 6, 2012 10:42 AM CDT
    • Very funny indeed. That article took some serious effort and thought. I have admiration for the creator of this entry.  

    • July 6, 2012 10:05 AM CDT

    • My favorite part:

      The cops come regularly during your practice sessions and ask you to shut up. While this may make it seem that people care about your garage band, and indeed they do, they are not caring in the right way.

    • July 6, 2012 8:40 AM CDT
    • Oh, that is some goood satire. I love the entries at the very bottom in blue -- did you read those? Funny funny!

      Gringo Starr said:

      That's gotta be me favorite Wikipedia article ever!!

    • July 5, 2012 10:11 PM CDT
    •  I HAVE'NT READ THEWHOLE THING , I CAUGHT THIS  AS I WAS GETTING READY TO TURN THE OLD IDIOT BOX OFF....But , it looks pretty funny. Someone went to a LOT of work to get their point across. Anyway , do that many Garage Bands  really think they belong on Wikipedia when they have following of , oh , let's be kind , less than 1000 people? There have got to be a number of Garage Bands , past and present , that are pretty big in our world(s) , but , they're not whining if they have'nt yet rated a mention in Wikipedia.

    • July 5, 2012 9:27 PM CDT
    • that's awesome

    • July 5, 2012 11:14 AM CDT
    • This IS funny. But seriously, it's what happens with an open user interface. And it should happen. And it will keep happening because if everybody exercised self control the world would be a really sterile and boring place.

    • July 6, 2012 10:36 AM CDT
    • By now you may/or may not have noticed, cared/or not cared that the Rock'n'Roll Suicide podcast has been on hiatus for a while now. For what it is worth, we've been knocking out this Rock And Roll Dance Party radio program for a few years now (since '94). After three hours a week blasting out tunes on the FM dial, the podcast just seemed like a knockoff of what we we're already doing. So, the Rock'n'Roll Suicide podcast falls by the wayside but, we're still spinning records and kicking ass.

      In this thread we'll post our playlists and probably a link or something to be able to give the show a listen.

      We're broadcasting on WUSB 90.1FM out of Stony Brook, New York or streaming at http://wusb.fm Tuesday 9pm - midnight if you'd care to check it out in real time.

      and now, on with the show...

      R. Fink

    • July 6, 2012 6:17 AM CDT
    • No problem! The 'Rite' sounds really good, can't remember exactly what trannies he uses but they are silicon anyway. I reckon fuzzrites seem to be somewhat easier to clone than maestros, they seem more tolerant of different transistor choices from what my ears tell me. The more commonly heard recorded version of the fuzzrite would be the silicon version anyway (as opposed to the earlier germanium versions). It's generally a more stable pedal and sounds really nasty and grindy with a fair amount of sustain. The earlier fuzzrites were germanium loaded (that Ventures sort of stuff) but they are more inconsistent from what I hear (although DAM apparently do a very good version but costs a lot of $$). I tend to mentally associate the silicon fuzzrite with later 60s more psychedelic sort of stuff...

      My preference for trash garage has to be a Maestro for sure. They were easily the most commonly used fuzzbox at the start of the fuzz explosion, you'll hear it all over nuggets, back from the grave, quagmire, pebbles, texas flashbacks, teenage shutdown etc etc. Frank Zappa used one in his early stuff, Billy Gibbons, Hendrix apparently in his mid 60s gigging days (he used fuzzrites too), Seeds, Electric Prunes, 13th floor elevators - maestros were everywhere!! Problem is that (considering it was the first commercially produced circuit) it seems to be very difficult to replicate without using the original transistors. The 'primitive' has a little internal trimpot (that North Effects advised not to tinker with - ha!!) that helps to tune in the 'gating' effect that maestros have so it is capable of getting close to the feel of an original. But being honest I think the 'rite' sounds closer to an original silicon fuzzrite than the 'primitive' sounds to an original maestro.

      Either choice is a good one though imo, you get a pedal which easily sounds like boutique boxes twice (or more!) the price, as long as you don't care about fancy paint jobs! The chap that runs North Effects is a really easy dude to deal with too, quick postage and professional attitude. Good luck and happy fuzzin'!

    • July 6, 2012 5:48 AM CDT
    • i haven't tried them but i've seen them before and i'm curious as well. they look like bootleg MXR pedals as far as design, which would be real cool, but i dunno about like sound quality, durability etc...

    • July 5, 2012 10:59 PM CDT
    • Are you refering to the production of LONDON CALLING or their actual performance?  Because I think that record showed growth while not getting boring.

      With that current Ramones thread going somewhere else, I think the best thing to say here is that they could have easily become stale if their 10th album sounded exactly like the first in terms of style.  Maybe a better term would be stagnant to clarify my definition of stale.
       
      dave said:

      Ya think so, Rod? I recently listened to London Calling again after 20 years, and I've gotta say it sounds stale and affected, while their 1st LP still sounds diamond-sharp. 

      The Ramones could still tinker around with slight differences, but it was still essentially "Da Ramones Sound"...

      Maybe it depends on the band, but I find that at 48 I still like the "young, snotty, and pissed-off" records. 

      Popularity rubs the edges off a band's sound. The Strokes first album sounded great for about one listen, but after that it just seemed  too slick.

    • July 5, 2012 5:18 PM CDT
    • Ya think so, Rod? I recently listened to London Calling again after 20 years, and I've gotta say it sounds stale and affected, while their 1st LP still sounds diamond-sharp. 

      The Ramones could still tinker around with slight differences, but it was still essentially "Da Ramones Sound"...

      Maybe it depends on the band, but I find that at 48 I still like the "young, snotty, and pissed-off" records. 

      Popularity rubs the edges off a band's sound. The Strokes first album sounded great for about one listen, but after that it just seemed  too slick.

    • July 5, 2012 4:41 PM CDT
    • Some groups staying true to something just so they don't get mainstream sounding sometimes becomes stale....The Clash may have stayed true to punk while their music changed.  It never really got mainstream sounding but it got boring.  However, it never got stale.

    • July 5, 2012 11:38 AM CDT
    • I think the word "rebellious" hits it right on the head.  Music that tries to push forward and stir things up.  That tries to rise above what has become ordinary and mainstream.  What was once rebellious becomes the normal.  It can still be good music, but no longer rebellious.  A lot of the pop-punk bands sound good and are exciting to hear, but are not really changing things.

      Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

      So how come we use the word "punk" instead of "rebellious" when that's what is implied?

    • July 5, 2012 9:54 PM CDT
    •      I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN , BUT , I WAS ALWAYS GLAD TO PLUNK DOWN MY CHANGE TO GO SEE THE RAMONES IN THE LAST 12 YEARS OF THEIR EXISTENCE , BECAUSE , WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A PITIFUL FEW (CRAMPS , IGGY , MOTORHEAD , e.g.), THE COMPETITION WAS'NT SAYIN' NUTHIN FROM WHERE I STOOD. The only "Bad" show I ever saw 'em do was their last gig in Chicago ( Barring Lollapalooza.). But , the monitors were shot , and you could tell they could'nt hear each other, half the time. That , and people throwing piles of plastic cups at the band did'nt help. I don't care if it was the worst show of their career , which it was'nt , you respected The Ramones , or you exercised the right to take your lame ass out the exit doors.

    • July 5, 2012 11:03 AM CDT
    • Good point!  That's also where all the 90's Ramones clone bands got it wrong too (well that, and everything else).

      Rev. Norb said:

      The shark-jump with regards to live performances definitely has to do with when Marky returned and changed his style. If you watch him play circa 1980, his usual beat sounds like this: BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a ((like the "End of the Century" version of "Rock & Roll High School)). Sometime in the late 80's ((i'm assuming it's when he re-replaced Elvis/Richie, but i can't be sure)), he just started going SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA a million miles an hour on the hi-hat and snare and it sounded like shit. Feel free to quote me on this.


      The Pygmies said:

      I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

      What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

    • July 5, 2012 10:51 AM CDT
    • The shark-jump with regards to live performances definitely has to do with when Marky returned and changed his style. If you watch him play circa 1980, his usual beat sounds like this: BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a-BOOMP-shick-a ((like the "End of the Century" version of "Rock & Roll High School)). Sometime in the late 80's ((i'm assuming it's when he re-replaced Elvis/Richie, but i can't be sure)), he just started going SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA SHICKABAPPA a million miles an hour on the hi-hat and snare and it sounded like shit. Feel free to quote me on this.


      The Pygmies said:

      I think the first five albums are gold start to finish (six if you incude It's Alive). Every album after that still contains at least one or two classics that justified the band's existence.

      What I can't stand to hear is any live recordings from the late 80's onward, when Joey started doing his Morrison-ish metal growl and the band played so fast there was no room for melody. 

    • July 5, 2012 6:30 PM CDT
    • Damn, The Sonics are hard to beat. I'd probably second that. While it's not necessarily representative of the garage sound, Black Monk Time by the Monks is a straight up killer album. I Know You Fine, But How You Doin' by the Gories is also a personal favorite.