michelle,

    a thoughtful considered opinion has no place here! you will ruin everything for the rest of us!!

  
Michelle Magnero said:

Just spent 15 minutes writing my post and it got deleted, so I don't know how this one will turn out but I will try...Ok, so first of all I think a couple of the bands are slightly popular/ trendy, but not the genre. Most of the people I know either do not like it or don't know who the bands are. When I think about why it is that a couple/handful of the bands have managed to cross over into the mainstream my two favorite examples to use are White Stripes and Black Lips, both of whom have been discussed elsewhere on this board. If you think about each of these bands and how/why they got popular (and also take into consideration that we are talking about two different time periods here- WS in 2000/ early 2000's and BL in the later part of the decade) one thing that becomes obvious to me is that they both became successful because of some kind of branding or selling of a concept, none of which, if you really think about it, has anything to do with the music they are playing. (Some of you on here may be able to think of things such as the equipment they use or build, etc., that connects the image to the sound,  but remember that you already have a background knowledge about this that the general public does not, thus they probably won't consider it.) So with BL, think about how back before they were on Vice the garage community seemed a little stand-offish against them (even when they were on ITR). Well partly I think the reason for this may have been because they were so young and looked a little hipster-ish. (And also the fact that they have admitted in their interviews that in the old days they didn't even really know how to play and just relied on shock value at their shows.)So once they landed on Vice the kids went, oh, they look edgy or whatever, let's listen to this. With WS, ten years ago: WS was a buzz band, people thought it was cute. They thought all those bands from Sweden were cute. THEY WERE NOT. (Sorry Swedish GRH members.) Someone brought up the example of Oblivians and I think it is a great one, so I will use it again: These kids that like BL are not going to look at old Oblivians LPs and go, they look cool, I think I will listen to this- because they don't know the TIME PERIOD or the GENRE. And they don't care about it. Two more quick things then I will shut up- 1. The Mummies: for whatever reason for quite a long time it has seemed to me that if someone only knew one garage band, it was the Mummies. Usually these people were hipsters. If I think about another band a lot of people know, you have Man or Astroman. They are so big that people who like this band and do not like primarily garage refuse to acknowledge that they are a garage rock band. My suspicion is that it is because they don't know enough about the genre to know that MoA plays a sub-genre of garage. 2. Blaine: No we are not cool, for me what liking garage means is that people think you are weird and that your music sucks/ all sounds the same :)

Just spent 15 minutes writing my post and it got deleted, so I don't know how this one will turn out but I will try...Ok, so first of all I think a couple of the bands are slightly popular/ trendy, but not the genre. Most of the people I know either do not like it or don't know who the bands are. When I think about why it is that a couple/handful of the bands have managed to cross over into the mainstream my two favorite examples to use are White Stripes and Black Lips, both of whom have been discussed elsewhere on this board. If you think about each of these bands and how/why they got popular (and also take into consideration that we are talking about two different time periods here- WS in 2000/ early 2000's and BL in the later part of the decade) one thing that becomes obvious to me is that they both became successful because of some kind of branding or selling of a concept, none of which, if you really think about it, has anything to do with the music they are playing. (Some of you on here may be able to think of things such as the equipment they use or build, etc., that connects the image to the sound,  but remember that you already have a background knowledge about this that the general public does not, thus they probably won't consider it.) So with BL, think about how back before they were on Vice the garage community seemed a little stand-offish against them (even when they were on ITR). Well partly I think the reason for this may have been because they were so young and looked a little hipster-ish. (And also the fact that they have admitted in their interviews that in the old days they didn't even really know how to play and just relied on shock value at their shows.)So once they landed on Vice the kids went, oh, they look edgy or whatever, let's listen to this. With WS, ten years ago: WS was a buzz band, people thought it was cute. They thought all those bands from Sweden were cute. THEY WERE NOT. (Sorry Swedish GRH members.) Someone brought up the example of Oblivians and I think it is a great one, so I will use it again: These kids that like BL are not going to look at old Oblivians LPs and go, they look cool, I think I will listen to this- because they don't know the TIME PERIOD or the GENRE. And they don't care about it. Two more quick things then I will shut up- 1. The Mummies: for whatever reason for quite a long time it has seemed to me that if someone only knew one garage band, it was the Mummies. Usually these people were hipsters. If I think about another band a lot of people know, you have Man or Astroman. They are so big that people who like this band and do not like primarily garage refuse to acknowledge that they are a garage rock band. My suspicion is that it is because they don't know enough about the genre to know that MoA plays a sub-genre of garage. 2. Blaine: No we are not cool, for me what liking garage means is that people think you are weird and that your music sucks/ all sounds the same :)

tell us where we can go if our little cool club is ruined? and be quick about it. the fucking roof just blew off!

Most of these posts read like elite assholes.  Annoyed because people don't know as much about music as you do?  That's childish.  I hope, out of spite, garage becomes more mainstream and ruins your little cool club.

Oh fuck yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like some disease at KDHX. And I hate it when bands play "ironic" covers of shit songs.

I hate Bratmobile's covers of "Cherry Bomb" by the Runaways and "Where Eagles Dare" by the Misfits,

Green Day's covers of "I Wanna Be On TV" by Fang, "Tired of Waiting for You" by the Kinks, and "Knowledge" by Operation Ivy,

Sublime's covers of "Hope" and "I'm Not a Loser" by Descendents, "Youth Are Getting Restless" by Bad Brains,

and Slightly Stoopid's cover of "I Couldn't Get HIgh" by the Fugs.

I actually like Mudhoney's cover of "Hate the Police," but not as much as the original. I don't like Mudhoney's covers of Thee Mighty Caesars' "She's Only 15" and "You Make Me Die" though. I don't think I've heard a single good cover of a Billy Childish song.

any one know what the fuzz 1313 mockingbird lane used (the late 8os garage band not the house) also the rest of the guitar set up much apreciated

Just don't make music with the sole intention of making money.

I can't think of any garage/punk songs that reference underground comix. I wish I knew of some...

Eh, not a huge Bruce fan but he was at a Roy Sludge gig in Cambride recently - seemed like a regular guy.

http://roysludge.bandcamp.com/album/too-drunk-to-truck

Bald Bill - Not to start a big issue but I'm wondering if, even we agree that he pretends, is it so bad tha the at least brings the plight of various people to the forefront? Just as point of discussion.

As for my opinion I love the concept of Bruce. He is a fantastic songwriter for the most part, I love the track he did with Mike Ness, and I do think he started humbly and can we blame him for superstardom? Especially since he never sought to reclaim or cash in on Born in the USA. Plus the man may charge a ton for his shows but he PLAYS! He runs around and goes for 3 or 4 hours. You get a fair showing for the money unlike most other massive bands. When was the last time you saw him in a tabloid or endorsing a shit product? 

That said, I can only listen to so much Bruce before I really have to switch the record. 

How will the struggling immigrant workers scraping by in the 23rd-century carbonate mines on Mars afford to go to a stadium & pay $$$ - $$$$ while he pretends he's performing for the working class?

Wish they'd come this way. I saw Shonen Knife back in the '90s at a Lollapalooza in Phoenix. That Ramones tribute sounds fun

Hi Mina - yes, they are still going strong and better than ever! They have just released a whole album of Ramones covers called "Osaka Ramones" which is a lot of fun.

I did a little review and some (bad) photos on my blog here:

http://retroman65.blogspot.com/2011/09/shonen-knife-live-at-scala-kings-cross_14.html

Mina said:

Oh really?! I didn't know they were still playing, I love Shonen Knife! <3

Saw Nobunny at a house party on Tuesday.  Fun!

The Brand new "RED"  VOX AC-15 owned by Kenny Wessel of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang!

To get us back to Popeye, I thought I looked more like this:  But with grayer hair.

Switzerland? I thought Beat-Man's true identity was Jerry J. Nixon, a communist rockabilly from Santa Fe.

Steve, has anybody ever told you you look like that "Mark" guy from the Clark County Museum who's on that "Pawn Stars" show quite a bit?

Steve, I'm pretty damn jealous. I contemplated drving the 12 hours to see him in TN last summer, but settled on mail ordering a belt-buckle instead. I wear it everyday with pride...but this trumps it! And you are the one who turned me on to VR

I've seen Beat-Man in America. Right here in Santa Fe. Twice.

Beat-Man is a great American, just like Popeye!

Show #341: "The Eggman Collection #102" playlist:

High Tide - "The Joke"
Los Vidrios Quebrados - "Inside Your Eyes"
Elvis Presley - "My Baby Left Me"
Sandy Salisbury - "Measure Of A Man"
Bubble Puppy - "Todd's Tune"
White Lining - "Back In The Sun"
Cem Karaca - "Tatli Dillim"
Sparks - "This Town Ain't Big Enough For The Both Of Us"
Manfred Mann - "Cubist Town"
Ultimate Spinach - "Suite: Genesis Of Beauty (In Four Parts)"
Jody Grind - "Vegetable Oblivion"
The Hollies - "Tell Me To My Face"
Simon & Garfunkel - "He Was My Brother"
The Byrds - "Triad"
The Ventures - "Psychedelic Venture"
The Statesiders - "Patterened The Same"
The Mirage - "Ebaneezer Beaver"
Sun Lightning Incorporated - "Quasar 45"
The dB's - "From A Window To A Screen"
The Deviants - "Billy The Monster"
Diane Hildebrand - "Come Looking For Me"
The Buckinghams - "This Is How Much I Love You"
The Yardbirds - "Knowing That I'm Losing You"
Bob Marley & The Wailers - "Redemption Song"-
Led Zeppelin - "How Many More Times"
Adrian Pride - "Her Name Is Melody"
Grapefruit - "Elevator"
John Cale - "Big White Cloud"
The Monkees - "Take A Giant Step"
Fickle Pickle - "Millionaire"
The Beatles - "Julia"
Those Guys - "Lookin’ At You Behind The Glasses"
Ekseption - "Ave Maria"
The Unclaimed - "Memories Of Green Eyes"
The Guess Who - "Share The Land"
Donovan - "People Used To"
The Briks - "Can You See Me"
Blops - "Piromano"
David Hemmings - "Bell Birds"
Doctors Of Madness - "Afterglow/Mitzi’s Cure/I Think We’re Alone/Waiting"

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Egg

Show #341: "The Eggman Collection #102"

Every 3 weeks I do a series of shows called The Eggman Collection, which originally was an old tape/cd collection of songs that I like. Now since I have little time due to work and stuff, I made it into a radio program. It's a big mix of songs I like, no matter what they are, what genre, style, or era...whatever...If I like it, I play it. This provides a big potpourri of music from all sorts of different artists, and also brings out several guilty pleasures you wouldn't expect me to listen to. Tune in tonight (Friday) at 10pm EST for the 102nd installment of The Eggman Collection and hear bands and artists like: High Tide, Los Vidrios Quebrados, Elvis Presley, Bubble Puppy, Sparks, Manfred Mann, Ultimate Spinach, Jody Grind, The Hollies, The Ventures, The Statesiders, The Deviants, The Buckinghams, Led Zeppelin, Grapefruit, John Cale, The Monkees, The Beatles, Those Guys, Ekseption, Donovan, Blops, David Hemmings, Doctors Of Madness, and many many more!!!

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Egg

Thanx for all the info Craig!!!

Playlist Sept 15/2011

1. John Schooley....Drive You Faster...from the Voodoo Rhythm LP John Schooley and His One Man Band. A real stomper to get the show started as i was yammering with BradleyBoy at his well attended (ya, right, let's be fucking honest, i was the only one there to see this guy play live last friday night) gig about Voodoo Rhythm Records and how Fucking great this label is. Best record label in Switzerland, probably all of Europe! Maybe the world. Likely the universe! But all who attended the John Schooley show at The Victoria Tavern 2 years back already know that.

2. The Standstills...Blues Radio from their Human Element CD and they will be at The Spoke on the campus of the University Of Western Ontario today at 11PM.

3. catl....Working Man's Soul....from their With The Lord For Cowards You Will Find No Place LP from last year. catl will be in town Thursday Sept 29th at Call The Office. Catl promises he'll phone in during that week's edition of Radio WW to yammer about their brand new drummer. Yep, Johnny Larue has left catl and been replaced by a Deadly Snake. Not literally, but the drummer from In The Red Recording artists The Deadly Snakes.

4. Bradleyboy...Callin' Your Name...from his Salt Gun CD. One man band who has been on many labels, including Transistor 66 and now EMI. He was here last friday at The Brass...you shoulda been there too!

5. Boy From Nowhere...Heart Full Of Soul...from Thee Cave Comes Alive LP on Action Records. Singer Jon Traut is presently in The Oily Birds who were playing with The Polymorphines that evening.

6. Sloan...Underwhelmed...from the Smeared CD from 1992. Sloan are playing at The London Music Hall next friday.

7. The Bon...Hey Suzette...from their Static Electricity CD on Boppa Do Down Records.

8. Midnite Snaxxx...Jackie...from their 7" on Total Punk Records. Finally got this one in the mail and the jury is still out on whether it was worth the long wait. Ya, it's really good, but it's not as good as some of the former bands these young ladies have been in. Tina Luchessi was in the Godlike Trashwomen, Bobbyteens and Tina and The Total Babes; Dulcinea was in The Loudmouths and i dunno what band Renee came from and i'm too lazy to go looking. Ok, maybe i've gotta spin it a couple more times as it does have that early girl group meets 77 punk rock sound...we'll let the jury decide...what did you think of this one?

9. The Beat Killers...Church Of Rock'n'Roll...from the latest garagepunk hideout download called Hidden Tracks.  A genuine asskicker from start to finish. Speedy John plays bass in this combo from LA.

10. The Hook Up...Bad Summer...from their Tomorrow and Today CD. Ya, i keep playing this song as it's sooo good! The Hook Up come back to London on Nov 5th, Brennan's Beer Bistro.

11. Teenanger...Carole Pope...from the Give Me Pink LP and they open for catl on Sept 29th at Call The Office.

12. B5 Blue...Borderline....recorded live somewhere in London. Coupla these guys are in The Oily Birds who played with The Polymorphines at The Black Shire last night.

13. Stupidity...Move...from the Move CD and they are from Sweden.

14. Lord High Fixers...18...from the Is Your Club A Secret Weapon LP on Estrus Records from 1999. Features Tim Kerr on guitar, as i was planning on doing a whole Tim Kerr set as The Polymorphines had Tim produce their latest recordings at Sweatbox Studios down in Austin. Like most bands, The Polymorphines arrived way late and we had to do a quick end of show interview. Luckily, Jeremy Polymorphine and i both talk really fast, so we did a 1 hour interview in 20m flat! Enthusiasm and a love of rock'n'roll will conquer all!

15. The Polymorphines...Anna Lee...from their latest CD, The Slip.

16. The Polymorphines...Constant Reminder...from their Transistor Sister CD...they didn't play this one live last night at the Black Shire...i shoulda yelled out for it, as this is such a great song!!

17. The Polymorphines...Poor Sicko...from The Slip CD.

18. The Polymorphines...Dirty Cop...from their Transistor Sister CD.

19. The Polymorphines...The Clean and The Dirty...from The Slip CD.

20. Invasions...Jewel...from their lateset 7".

21. Teenage Head...Brand New Cadillac...from a live show at The Spoke from the fall of 1980.

Somewhere around here, The Polymorphines arrived...lost on the vast campus of The University Of Western Ontario. Not the first, certainly not the last to get lost here...but i've been told it was a great, yet speedy interview...Maybe next time we'll get to do the acoustic set that we were hoping to do.

22. The Polymorphines...Let Love Fly...from the Transistor Sistor CD.

Big thanx to The Polymorphines for taking the time to come on air prior to their big show at The Black Shire Pub. And it was a great show that evening as some of you know.

And thanx for all of the crazies that called in with requests! Back next week with more noise.

Here's a link to the archived show:

http://chrwradio.com/podcasts/ 94-9CHRWThu1900.mp3

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