i loikes the clash. i love their atrocious triple-album sandanista! i loved the 101ers(i first scored some naughty in the elgin back in my youthful shenanigans days). i view things from this side of the atlantic. maybe punk rock is a musical genre that just haphazardly evolved from rock'nroll antecedents, without any sort of ideological agenda, or fuzzy liberal humanitarianism, or anti-establishment behind it? maybe it is about fuzzed-out guitars, and frat-boy jack-ass attitudes by people who go on to work on wall street? but it's a pity!

John Paul Jackson said:

Great point.  the media has to make "labels" like "garage"so they can write their stories.  So labels are just made up, they dont exist.  but maybe its ok to say "Oh this is a garage rock band." so you can describe it to your friend or whatever.  I love talkin bout this sh***t lol 

Old School Hero said:

Good Point. And now to open up a whole new can of worms...This also makes me wonder...are you still a Garage Band if you enter the mainstream?

Mike Humsgreen said:

What do you think of the whole 'sell out' thing, when a band gets too big for DIY to still be possible? For me Clash, the Ramones, Sex Pistols were all punk but at some point whatever 'punk' was has gotten badly lost that you can now (for years) buy Tshirts with these bands on at Top Man.

 

i agree with JPJackson when he discusses labels and people's need for labels.  it's a load of rubbish.  it either resonates with you or it doesn't .  a lot of the labeling crap reminds me a lot of intellectual snobbery and i don't have time for that. 

i agree to disagree and that's what makes discussions fun and/or interesting.  i believe Punk is an attitude.  When it comes to a lot of bands most folks associate with "Punk", I think of Malcolm McClaren.  Malcolm McClaren managed, marketed & promoted bands based on a variety of experiences he had; most of those having happened when he was stateside, managing the New York Dolls.  CBGB's hosted a wide variety of acts and much of their lifestyle and independent attitude is what Macolm incorporated while marketing his bands when he went back to England.  Many bands; for example the Stranglers, the Damned, etc...were also associated with the Punk movement for the exact same reasons.  In his day, Johnny Cash was as punk as they come, all due to his attitude.

Can a man who appears in adverts for butter or car insurance be considered punk? Or a person who appears on reality TV to further their celebrity career?

Beatrice said:

Punk is an attitude, not a clothing style and certainly not the way you scream or hate into a microphone.  Johnny Cash was punk, Gene Vincent was punk, Iggy, Mc5, R.A.M.O.N.E.S., etc...

What made the Clash rise above the tribe and make them even more "punk" than others is the fact that they did what flowed for them.  Many times Joe Strummer would wait (well after a show was over), to be sure certain fans had a lift home and many times he'd even give them a ride.  He didn't care that many bands just wanted to tell their fans to eff off and go off and rage, he did what he wanted to do.  He honored his values and didn't care how he appeared to others.  That's PUNK!

Johnny Cash was Country. Gene Vincent was Rockabilly. I do think Punk is a genre of music... I just think The Clash transcended genre. And 'honouring your values' didn't make Joe Strummer a punk... It just made him a decent person. Although he wasn't always a decent person, he fell victim to his ego many a time by his own admission.

Beatrice said:

Punk is an attitude, not a clothing style and certainly not the way you scream or hate into a microphone.  Johnny Cash was punk, Gene Vincent was punk, Iggy, Mc5, R.A.M.O.N.E.S., etc...

What made the Clash rise above the tribe and make them even more "punk" than others is the fact that they did what flowed for them.  Many times Joe Strummer would wait (well after a show was over), to be sure certain fans had a lift home and many times he'd even give them a ride.  He didn't care that many bands just wanted to tell their fans to eff off and go off and rage, he did what he wanted to do.  He honored his values and didn't care how he appeared to others.  That's PUNK!

Punk is an attitude, not a clothing style and certainly not the way you scream or hate into a microphone.  Johnny Cash was punk, Gene Vincent was punk, Iggy, Mc5, R.A.M.O.N.E.S., etc...

What made the Clash rise above the tribe and make them even more "punk" than others is the fact that they did what flowed for them.  Many times Joe Strummer would wait (well after a show was over), to be sure certain fans had a lift home and many times he'd even give them a ride.  He didn't care that many bands just wanted to tell their fans to eff off and go off and rage, he did what he wanted to do.  He honored his values and didn't care how he appeared to others.  That's PUNK!

Great point.  the media has to make "labels" like "garage"so they can write their stories.  So labels are just made up, they dont exist.  but maybe its ok to say "Oh this is a garage rock band." so you can describe it to your friend or whatever.  I love talkin bout this sh***t lol 

Old School Hero said:

Good Point. And now to open up a whole new can of worms...This also makes me wonder...are you still a Garage Band if you enter the mainstream?

Mike Humsgreen said:

What do you think of the whole 'sell out' thing, when a band gets too big for DIY to still be possible? For me Clash, the Ramones, Sex Pistols were all punk but at some point whatever 'punk' was has gotten badly lost that you can now (for years) buy Tshirts with these bands on at Top Man.

Oh wow sorry for the late reply but good question. I think as long as you own what you do it is still diy. You can be big and still own everything. Worldwide with the internet you can create a fanbase, share your music free peer to peer and stuff. Book a tour using email. If you need legal issues, get your own lawyer or whatever. I think you can be successful and still diy.

Mike Humsgreen said:

What do you think of the whole 'sell out' thing, when a band gets too big for DIY to still be possible? For me Clash, the Ramones, Sex Pistols were all punk but at some point whatever 'punk' was has gotten badly lost that you can now (for years) buy Tshirts with these bands on at Top Man.

John Paul Jackson said:

I think of punk more as a DIY attitude, not a musical style.  And there's nothing wrong with ELO and Queen!

Just downloading! Thanks a lot!

I love it !

Thanks a lot

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I just downloaded the entire MP3 and AAC directories and, from what I can tell, each of these files has the correct (Vol. 1) artwork embedded. I'd really like to know where (and how) the artwork for #3 is showing up.

Love it!  Thanks to kopper, Idon Mine, and all the bands! 

What? Are you sure? I just checked all of my files and none of the ones I uploaded have anything but the artwork for Vol. 1. Can you tell me exactly which tracks you found that have the wrong artwork, and were they MP3s or AACs? And did you download them one by one or via one of the zip files?

Thanks!

Mexican Moustache said:

Demolishing!!!!!!! Great job everyone!!!

 

By the way, some tracks have the cover art for volume 3.

Greeeeat!! Listening to it  right now, totally rocks!! Thanks to everybody involved to make this happen - We drink a toast to grgpnk!

Demolishing!!!!!!! Great job everyone!!!

By the way, some tracks have the cover art for volume 3.

Actually, it IS on Napster. When I searched for it with "It Came From the Hideout" it didn't show up. Then I searched for "The Cynics" and looked up up their songs, and there was "I Need More" with a link to the Hideout comp. I found it on Amazon and iTunes, but I don't think it's on eMusic yet.

kopper said:

Yeah, it won't be showing up on Napster yet. I only submitted it last Friday. Most of these online stores take weeks for this stuff to show up in their catalogs. But iTunes is pretty quick... here's the iTunes link:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/it-came-from-hideout-the-best/id43...

 

swt said:

Interesting fact: I looked this up on Napster (which I never use), and under "Other members Like," there was:

1) Songs for Japan (featuring songs by Lady Gaga, Madonna, Katy Perry and Justin Timberlake)
2) Puppy Holidays by The Jingle Dogs
3) Thoroughly Modern Millie (Original Broadway Cast)

Sounds about right.

Yeah, it won't be showing up on Napster yet. I only submitted it last Friday. Most of these online stores take weeks for this stuff to show up in their catalogs. But iTunes is pretty quick... here's the iTunes link:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/it-came-from-hideout-the-best/id43...

swt said:

Interesting fact: I looked this up on Napster (which I never use), and under "Other members Like," there was:

1) Songs for Japan (featuring songs by Lady Gaga, Madonna, Katy Perry and Justin Timberlake)
2) Puppy Holidays by The Jingle Dogs
3) Thoroughly Modern Millie (Original Broadway Cast)

Sounds about right.

Listening right now. I'm really glad you did this Kopper! This is amazing.

Hiya, I've downloaded that, will have a listen tomorrow (Ta very much, incidentally). D.

Interesting fact: I looked this up on Napster (which I never use), and under "Other members Like," there was:

1) Songs for Japan (featuring songs by Lady Gaga, Madonna, Katy Perry and Justin Timberlake)
2) Puppy Holidays by The Jingle Dogs
3) Thoroughly Modern Millie (Original Broadway Cast)

Sounds about right.

DONE!!!

sent to kopper.

IDON MINE said:

Yeah man! PLUS: "...working on the cover of volume four" - Can't wait for that.

Esgar acelerado said:

already available on emusic and i tunes?...

want to buy it! I now it's free but want to support the cause! :)

This is brilliant. Kopper you are a genius for pulling this one off and when someone makes a sequal to We Never Learn there would need to be a chapter on these comps alone! Well done to everyone else that contributed.

SOUNDS GREAT!!!

you guys make my life easier... next time as DJ i'll just shuffle the record and go drink some beers! :D

Yeah man! PLUS: "...working on the cover of volume four" - Can't wait for that.

Esgar acelerado said:

already available on emusic and i tunes?...

want to buy it! I now it's free but want to support the cause! :)

already available on emusic and i tunes?...

want to buy it! I now it's free but want to support the cause! :)