The thing is, even those of us who professed to be real proper punks got pretty wrapped up in the whole image of being a punk, and that was our faashion for better or worse, whether it was ripped and torn shirts, or home-made bondage gear; straps and D rings everywhere, not to mention a whole heap of zips everywhere. Great for those of us who couldn't afford to go to any of the London boutiques or send off £££ to these outlets advertised in NME. Oh yeah I did send off once for a pair of their cheap n nasty PVC trousers to go with my blue suede brothel creepers. Mind you all that attention seeking fall out from the punk fashion had its obvious drawbacks, like walking back from a late night gig or something... Lenny Helsing said:

Yeah Andy I know what you mean but nonetheless Punk was turned into a fashion thing for lots of folks through some heavy media presence, including some utter rubbish printed in the likes of the Daily Mirror in summer of '77 including an article showing Ten Easy Steps On How To Be A Punk Rocker, and ludicrous stuff like that...and then of course all the teenie magazines of the time who were covering all the previous pop, and glam groups earlier on in the 70s began to feature loads of punk groups posing in all their finery too...so like it or not, fashion did indeed play its part in the punk rock scene, for better or worse... take it from someone who was very much there at the time, even if, admittedly, I wasn't right there at the very dawn of it all. But in around '77-'80 I saw the likes of The Buzzcocks, The Clash with Suicide, The Jam, The Damned with The Dead Boys, The Radiators From Space (supporting Thin Lizzy), Siouxsie and the Banshees with Spizz Oil, Adam and the Ants, 999, Dr Feelgood with Mink Deville, The Cure, Ultravox, The Slits, Subway Sect, Magazine and Bauhaus, The Fall with The Cramps, The Monochrome Set...not to mention some of our very own Scottish groups like Matt Vinyl and The Decorators, the Scars, TV Art (soon to become Josef K), the Dirty Reds (soon to become the Fire Engines), and of course The Skids, Bee Bee Cee, The Prats and a whole heap more too...

Andy Climax said:

Oi! Punk etc. All the same moniker really. Just a reaction to the shit that was happening in Britain at the time. I believe the same shit was happening in New York and Detroit at the same time. Oi! was born of the skinhead/suedehead movement, and was more racially motivated. The skinheads came directly from the old punks who were totally disillusioned with the commercial crap that the clash and the pistols etc were eventually comin out with. So its all punk really. Like the hippy thing in the 50's and 60's, punk was'nt and is'nt a fashion thing, its a way of life and thinking

Theres only really... the first Ramones record... The Adolescents First record... The Gun Club's First album....
yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh... The Ivy Green LP too

What's not to like about that first Clash LP...pure garage punk of its time...and quite marvellous on stage too, yeah...but aside from the odd few cuts throughout their career, none of their other LPs even came close to that barrage of cool... Lachlan William Richardson said:

There was some pretty brilliant albums released in that time frame, favourites, that I can't put in order:

Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - LAMF
Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Ramones - Rocket To Russia

Never really dug the Clash that much...

Yeah Andy I know what you mean but nonetheless Punk was turned into a fashion thing for lots of folks through some heavy media presence, including some utter rubbish printed in the likes of the Daily Mirror in summer of '77 including an article showing Ten Easy Steps On How To Be A Punk Rocker, and ludicrous stuff like that...and then of course all the teenie magazines of the time who were covering all the previous pop, and glam groups earlier on in the 70s began to feature loads of punk groups posing in all their finery too...so like it or not, fashion did indeed play its part in the punk rock scene, for better or worse... take it from someone who was very much there at the time, even if, admittedly, I wasn't right there at the very dawn of it all. But in around '77-'80 I saw the likes of The Buzzcocks, The Clash with Suicide, The Jam, The Damned with The Dead Boys, The Radiators From Space (supporting Thin Lizzy), Siouxsie and the Banshees with Spizz Oil, Adam and the Ants, 999, Dr Feelgood with Mink Deville, The Cure, Ultravox, The Slits, Subway Sect, Magazine and Bauhaus, The Fall with The Cramps, The Monochrome Set...not to mention some of our very own Scottish groups like Matt Vinyl and The Decorators, the Scars, TV Art (soon to become Josef K), the Dirty Reds (soon to become the Fire Engines), and of course The Skids, Bee Bee Cee, The Prats and a whole heap more too... Andy Climax said:

Oi! Punk etc. All the same moniker really. Just a reaction to the shit that was happening in Britain at the time. I believe the same shit was happening in New York and Detroit at the same time. Oi! was born of the skinhead/suedehead movement, and was more racially motivated. The skinheads came directly from the old punks who were totally disillusioned with the commercial crap that the clash and the pistols etc were eventually comin out with. So its all punk really. Like the hippy thing in the 50's and 60's, punk was'nt and is'nt a fashion thing, its a way of life and thinking

There was some pretty brilliant albums released in that time frame, favourites, that I can't put in order:

Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers - LAMF
Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Ramones - Rocket To Russia

Never really dug the Clash that much...

Yes! And all the Milkshakes records for sure.

Gadzooks, all of them!

Now and then I enjoy listening to these fine tunes:

Milkshakes - Before The Night Is Through
Mighty Caesars - Little By Little
Thee Stash - We're Selling Jeans For The USA

Hi John!

Yeah, I'm a huge Childish-fan, too, but it's pretty hard to keep track of all of his work. Actually, almost every record I bought is good, but here are my favourites of the albums I own:

The Milkshakes - "Nothing Can Stop These Men"
Thee Headcoats - "Beach Bums Must Die!"
Billy Childish and the MBE - "Christmas 1979"
Billy Childish and Holly Golightly - "In Blood" (this record, in fact, brought back my belief in guitar music after having drifted off to dubstep and stuff like that)
The Delmonas - "Dangerous Charms"

The Childish compilation "Archive of 1959" is an interesting overview with some fine tunes (like "Kray Twins (demo)" by the Pop Rivets).

Also try to get the following compilations:

"Hey Mom! The Garage is on my foot!" (this one is still available on CD on the DamGood website); "A Hangman Sampler" (I really love this one, but since it's from 1988, I only have an mp3 copy of this); the whole "Medway Powerhouse" series. These are hard to get, I guess, but they're on the internet somewhere (just to pass the time until you can get physical copies of them).

And I'd love to have the Headcoats Sect vinyl "Deerstalking Men", for the title track is a killer. Oh, and also try the supergreat Kravin' "A"s with Milkshake Bruce Brand on guitar!

Have fun hunting!

Cheers, Doc

You pretty much can't go wrong with any Childish record. I love every record I have so far, and definitely need more. I have:

Thee Headcoats- Beach Bums Must Die
Thee Headcoats- Earls of Suavedom
Thee Mighty Caesars- Thusly, Thee Might Caesars
Wild Billy Childish and the MBE's- Thatcher's Children
Wild Billy Childish and the MBE's- It Should Be Me b/w Loray Head 7"
Wild Billy Childish and the MBE's- Daddy Rolling Stone 12"
The Pop Rivets- Fun in the UK

I only have a few Billy Childish records and I want to ad more to my collection. Name a few of your favorites from any of his musical projects so I can get up to speed. Please.

I always thought Black Flag was totally L.A.....Iwassnt Livin here at the time...i was up in Sac. ; when i saw them...kinda of a punk Black Sabath*.....1983?????
there is one song ...i snagged off collage radio..... I see the world threw Rats Eyes... iLove it!!! Has anyone else heard this one????

Can you recommend the Ultra 3? How's it to play and how does it sound? Is it good with fuzz? I'm in Finland and the only Schecters they have here are those ugly metal guitars, so no chance for me to try the Ultra myself. gumbo chaff said:

I am using a schecter ultra III thro a boss me 70 into a hughes and kettner edition blue(the best thing about this amp is it has a cool BLUE backlight on the control panel !! its quite a simple setup but it works for me at the moment .I want a peavey wiggy !! and some more ultras.

i started using it at nxne this year to track secret shows etc and have sort of stuck with it, i'll look for you

Thanks for posting this! I need a lil birthday vacation. Seems like there's not much activity on this "Wild Wild" West forum.

ping sucks. and none of my truly favorite bands are on it.
should use spotify social instead its all tied in with facebook and whatnot.

Sad news indeed. I'm gonna go and do the mashed potatoes right now as a tribute.

People used to make and post downloadable '60s garage comps on the old Psychotic Reactions forum on the GaragePunk Forums message board ("forum comps" they were called), so it's nice to see someone continuing the tradition here.

What can I say...not sure it´s legal, but it´s damn good...
Thanks a million

Hey Thanks, Gringo. Great Link! Gringo Starr said:

Lots of great stuff here:

http://ska_nick.podomatic.com/

http://dancecrasher.podomatic.com/

Yeah. Really. Dude. Amazing what you can find if you just look. :) Count Von Tuthrie said:

Hmmm... never heard of it.

Within this group of music a·fi·ci·o·na·dos my hopes were to find one or two people with just a tad more insight or knowledge of something more personally genuine.

Really dude? Google it??



kopper said:

Hmmm, good question. Have you tried the Google Machine?

Hi Isa and Morgan sorry for the late reply...but the September flu. Thanks a lot for your posts. Of course the BFTGs are the best, I own the records and the CDs but thanks to your tip I found the FWTS on iTunes and indeed they are great. Raw, simple and mono. Must admit, have never heard before about the Teenage Shutdowns, but ordered them right away from Amazon. In any case...thanks again Isabella Gloria said:

'No No No' isn't my favorite, but to each his own (; BFTG is a MUST MUST MUST have! All garage.. 'noisy and unpsychedelic'! Probably my favorite series. The volumes of the Quagmire series are bitchin' too, especially the first one. Also try some 'Psychedelic States' comps.. Alabama vol. 2 and Mississippi are the best I think! Morgan was right about the TS comps--a lot of the songs are just filler, but my favorite is vol. 4 ('I'm a No-Count!'). 'Get Lost #3' is real raw, but I don't think there are other volumes.. 'Lost Generation vol. 2' is the better of the installments. Trash Box is GREAT and if you ask me, the crappy quality is what MAKES it great. All the 'Garage Beat' volumes have some absolutely amazing songs, but most of them can be found on other comps. And of course, OF COURSE, 'Fort Worth Teen Scene' vols. 1, 2, and 3! And if we're talking about single-volume comps, 'Hang It Out To Dry!' is one of my absolute favorites ever, as well as 'Total Raunch'. 'Searchin' in the Wilderness' is a comp of faaar out European garage. 'Scum of the Earth' is one side of crazy garage and one side of crazy junk.. but it's all good save for a track or two :p Okay I'll try to contain myself from anything further & let other people answer (; but those are my favorites!

Anything from 1964 to 1968. Once Brian Jones was sacked it wasn't the same!

I love "She Said Yeah", there are a few videos on YouTube, all are good. They just look real cool.