Yeah. Really. Dude. Amazing what you can find if you just look. :) Count Von Tuthrie said:

Hmmm... never heard of it.

Within this group of music a·fi·ci·o·na·dos my hopes were to find one or two people with just a tad more insight or knowledge of something more personally genuine.

Really dude? Google it??



kopper said:

Hmmm, good question. Have you tried the Google Machine?

That first link is so fucking good! I love this video

Lots of great stuff here: http://ska_nick.podomatic.com/ http://dancecrasher.podomatic.com/

Hi Isa and Morgan sorry for the late reply...but the September flu. Thanks a lot for your posts. Of course the BFTGs are the best, I own the records and the CDs but thanks to your tip I found the FWTS on iTunes and indeed they are great. Raw, simple and mono. Must admit, have never heard before about the Teenage Shutdowns, but ordered them right away from Amazon. In any case...thanks again Isabella Gloria said:

'No No No' isn't my favorite, but to each his own (; BFTG is a MUST MUST MUST have! All garage.. 'noisy and unpsychedelic'! Probably my favorite series. The volumes of the Quagmire series are bitchin' too, especially the first one. Also try some 'Psychedelic States' comps.. Alabama vol. 2 and Mississippi are the best I think! Morgan was right about the TS comps--a lot of the songs are just filler, but my favorite is vol. 4 ('I'm a No-Count!'). 'Get Lost #3' is real raw, but I don't think there are other volumes.. 'Lost Generation vol. 2' is the better of the installments. Trash Box is GREAT and if you ask me, the crappy quality is what MAKES it great. All the 'Garage Beat' volumes have some absolutely amazing songs, but most of them can be found on other comps. And of course, OF COURSE, 'Fort Worth Teen Scene' vols. 1, 2, and 3! And if we're talking about single-volume comps, 'Hang It Out To Dry!' is one of my absolute favorites ever, as well as 'Total Raunch'. 'Searchin' in the Wilderness' is a comp of faaar out European garage. 'Scum of the Earth' is one side of crazy garage and one side of crazy junk.. but it's all good save for a track or two :p Okay I'll try to contain myself from anything further & let other people answer (; but those are my favorites!

What can I say...not sure it´s legal, but it´s damn good...
Thanks a million

The Neanderthal’s Stone Aged Beat #3

1. On My Mind - unknowns
2. Thump - The Union
3. I've Got To Get You - Ray Hoff & the Offbeats
4. Things Will Change - Jonah Ark
5. Shirley Lee - Justin Anthony & the Impacts
6. Tossin' and Turnin' - Bobby James & the Esquires
7. I Can Only Give You Everything - The Clefs
8. Don't Ask Me What To Say - Glenn & the Outlaws
9. King Bee - Tony Worsley & the Fabulous Blue Jays
10. What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - The Librettos
11. Love Makes The World Go Round - Arthur's Thumb
12. One Thing To Do - The Throb
13. What'cha Gonna Do About It - Rev Black & the Rockin' Vickers
14. Shaking All Over - Roland Storm & the Epics
15. Run Back Home - The Second Thoughts
16. Don't Get Around Much Anymore - The Sunsets
17. Take It Easy - Reggie Norton & the Ideas
18. Why Can't She Be Mine - The Others
19. Why Do I Cry - Vyt
20. Downtown Blues - The Wild Colonials

These are free to download and contain myraid of combos from the Australian '60s garage beat scene.  Just follow this link to view the artwork and download links!!

The Neanderthal’s Stone Aged Beat #1

1. Dizzy Miss Lizzy – M.B.R.
2. I Haven’t Got You – Vyt
3. What’cha Gonna Do? – The Lost Souls
4. You Shoulda Held On – The Ramrods
5. Canberra Blues – The Bitter Lemons
6. Bad Boy – Rick And The Bad Boys
7. Mona – The Creatures
8. 300 lbs of Joy – Phil Jones And The Unknown Blues
9. Rockin’ Pneumonia – Kevin Bible And The Book
10.Fortune Teller – The Black Curtain
11.You Can’t Have It All – Mal Clarke
12.Bad Boy – Glen Mooney And The Beaumen
13.I’m Your Man – Gemini 5
14.I’m Gonna Live – Janice Slater
15.Ticket To Ride – The Iguana
16.Security – Tony Shepp
17.I’m Lonely – The Sorrows
18.Outside Lookin’ In – The Black Diamonds
19.Russian Spy And I – The Third Party
20.Where Have All The Good Times Gone – The Town Criers

The Neanderthal’s Stone Aged Beat #2

1. I'm Going Back - Machine Gun Kelly's Rejects
2. Since You Broke My Heart - The Ramrods
3. Watch Your Step - The Vince Maloney Sect
4. Lost Girl - Grandma's Tonic
5. I Need You - The Throb
6. Farmer John - Steve & the Board
7. Don't You Do That - Bobby James & the Esquires
8. I've Got To Let You Go - The Courtmen
9. I'm A Man - The Elois
10. Keep On Going Back - The Henchmen
11. You Know He Did - Him & the Others
12. Something's Got A Hold On Me - Jackie Weaver
13. Ain't That Lovin' You Baby - The Wild Colonials
14. Can't You See? - Mort & the Mobees
15. Don't You Fret - The Nomads
16. Claret And Tears - The Pogs
17. The World Keeps Goin' Round My Head - The Second Thoughts
18. I Just Want To Make Love To You - The Soul Agents
19. Got My Mojo Working - The Spinning Wheels
20. I Can't Find Her - The 5

Anything from 1964 to 1968. Once Brian Jones was sacked it wasn't the same!

I love "She Said Yeah", there are a few videos on YouTube, all are good. They just look real cool.

I totally agree with that point! I have discovered many little gems from podcasts and been wanting to try my hand at one too. I think it is only a benefit to those artists involved and am sure the majority of them would think the same. It's more the labels and the collection societies involved who are going to go after you. Play it by ear! SCxMS said:

I've always viewed playing the song as part of an entire podcast (one solid mix - not individual tracks) as free advertising for the band. Sure, they don't get the money from royalties, but they get promoted and many smaller bands get some well deserved exposure. Like a college radio show.

Commando, Beat on the Brat, and of course Oh Oh I Love Her So!! RAMONES are so great....

God!!!! am so glad someone brought up th Phil spectoor thing!!!! yea the Ramones took a Dive in that period!! they came back.. to me with the covers album.. Acid Eaters!!!

Oh, oh, I love her so!

The 1st two albums are just pure classics, every song is great. 3 and 4 were good, but for me not as good as the 1st two. After that it was just a slow march downward for the rest of their career. There were still good songs to be found here and there, but it seemed more and more forced as the years went on and they seemed to not give a crap about their later horrible albums at all.

I think a good jumping off point is when Dee Dee left the band, though they had been going downhill before that.

Even earlier, they were hurt when Tommy stopped being a producer. He got their sound and what they were all about in a way almost none of their later producers did. Even the later rather mediocre Too Tough to Die album benefited from his coming back to produce it and it helped a lot.

The thing is, at a certain point like many long running bands the guys started treating it as a job. Maybe for Johnny it was always just a job. He often said that it was. Once being in a punk rock band is a job...well that isn't really the point of a punk band is it?

My most controversial Ramones opinion: I've always thought Pleasant Dreams was a decent album. It just isn't a good RAMONES album. It's a pop album showcase for Joey. Most people seem to hate it. I like it much more than the highly overrated End of the Century. Phil Spector and the Ramones are not a good mix. Ramones songs need to be stripped down. Wall of sound style just defeats the whole purpose. For me Pleasant Dreams succeeded as a pop album where End of the Century failed as one.

Understandable. A little too heavy on the cheese whiz for me. MikeL said:

I got a little choked up myself when they played that song at the festival. It was very moving.

Alex Patton said:

I saw em three or so years ago and they were great. A few crocodile tears were shed when they played can't put your arms around a memory, but it was nice to hear the song at least.

I got a little choked up myself when they played that song at the festival. It was very moving. Alex Patton said:

I saw em three or so years ago and they were great. A few crocodile tears were shed when they played can't put your arms around a memory, but it was nice to hear the song at least.

I saw em three or so years ago and they were great. A few crocodile tears were shed when they played can't put your arms around a memory, but it was nice to hear the song at least.

I bought Pissing Out The Poison after just hearing a few of their songs on various compilations and it became a favourite album for sometime after I bought it. Actually yeah it rocks all the way through! I'm really intrigued about that book now! Think I'd better hunt it down

I have no idea who won those things. I hope they enjoyed the show. todd a williams said:

what about those free springsteen tickets?!

MikeL said:

I did apologize for that remark later on. Yes, it was wrong.

kopper said:

I might also remind you that your first comment in this topic (which was started as an honest critique of his lame website) was "Fuck all of you if you don't like the way LS does things. That kind of purist mentality is just plain childish."

Purist mentality? I think you have displayed that here more than anyone else! How much more childish and purist can you get than telling everyone you disagree with to fuck off?

what about those free springsteen tickets?! MikeL said:

I did apologize for that remark later on. Yes, it was wrong.

kopper said:

I might also remind you that your first comment in this topic (which was started as an honest critique of his lame website) was "Fuck all of you if you don't like the way LS does things. That kind of purist mentality is just plain childish."

Purist mentality? I think you have displayed that here more than anyone else! How much more childish and purist can you get than telling everyone you disagree with to fuck off?

I dig LS solo and with his Disciples MORE than with the Boss, whom I dislike and distrust too :):):)

I did apologize for that remark later on. Yes, it was wrong. kopper said:

I might also remind you that your first comment in this topic (which was started as an honest critique of his lame website) was "Fuck all of you if you don't like the way LS does things. That kind of purist mentality is just plain childish."

Purist mentality? I think you have displayed that here more than anyone else! How much more childish and purist can you get than telling everyone you disagree with to fuck off?

Yes, you're right, I do tend to personalize things, and I really should stop doing that. However, some things have been said around here that I disagree with, and I'm just trying to make my own point. And sometimes I think you overreact as well. You seem to take the UG and Fuzztopia rather personally yourself. And to be honest, I forgot all about this thread until Isabella brought this subject up again. I'm sorry if I came off as a little testy, and yes, I suppose my remark to you was a little out of line. kopper said:

Why are you taking this so personally or trying to make something personal out of it? On one hand you say you don't care, but you sure are quick to defend Little Steven for just about every jab given him here. So what's the story? Are you secretly Little Steven? I wouldn't doubt it the way you're so knee-jerkingly defensive about everything.

And frankly, I don't care if "there are people out there who don't like the way" I "do things." They can set up their own websites/podcasts/whatever. It's a free country. But then again, I don't make it impossible for people to get in touch with me, either. I'm out in the open, and hey, I'm a busy guy, too. Doesn't mean I can't take a few minutes to respond to emails. And, oh yeah, I don't tell any of the podcasters here what they can or can't play on their shows, either. Which is one reason why the GP podcasts kick the hell out of UG.

MikeL said:

Well, it's his operation, and I'll let him run it as he sees fit. All I really care about is discovering new bands and bands that I've never heard of before. Quite honestly, I just don't care about all the Spinal Tap BS that goes on behind the scenes. I'll bet there are people out there who don't like the way you do things, kopper, but that is your problem, not mine. kopper said:

Mike, you're missing Isabella's point. No one cares if you like LS or his stupid show, but it's his dictatorial influence over the music featured that is in question. Why, of ALL people involved in this music scene, is he the ONLY arbiter of cool for that station? How did he become the self-appointed guru of garage? If he really wanted to be diplomatic about this, he'd appoint a music committee to review band & label submissions and come up with a list, rather than putting the kibosh on the DJs adding music to their playlists and having it basically be his own decision. Imagine if there was one guy back in the '60s whose sole judgment it was to say whether a band was good (or "cool") enough to record and release their records? Then where would we be?

MikeL said:

Again, each to his or her own. I like LS, and I like his show, and nobody here is going to change my mind. Of course, I'm not going to change your mind either, so that makes us even. And yes, it is a business, and as you get older, you'll find out that's the way the world works.

Isabella Gloria said:

ack! what makes HIM an authority of taste? I'm glad you see exactly what I'm talking about. that's a hideous way to go about business, but that's what it is, isn't it? just business. I hate what he does in the arena, but it's not like he's the only big head in the music business to have ever acted like scum. thank clapton for garagepunk! [btw.. i listened, and it was far out. poe-influenced garage! doesn't happen every day (; ]

kopper said:

Amen, Isabella! Siriusl (sic), I couldn't agree more.

From what I understand, the ONLY Underground Garage DJ that is allowed to introduce new bands on his show is Bill Kelly. I know this because he introduced a band on my label, The Nevermores, onto his show. Their tune "I Lost Lenore" got a 14-week rotation and lots of great exposure from that, and the band was thrilled. Little Steven remarked later that he though the song was "cool" so I sent him another copy of the CD. Bill's allowed a few adds per month (I think that's how it works). It's my understanding that he is currently the only UG DJ to have that privilege. That's because the legendary producers Kim and Andrew were adding songs that Steven thought were crap and he put a lid on DJ adds. He has been known to bust balls when he hears something he doesn't like. Bill is given leeway since Steven has acknowledged that he used his WFMU show ("Teenage Wasteland") as the prototype for UG and has always treated him incredibly well.

Isabella Gloria said:

I haven't read the entire discussion, but after I saw that 'commercial' on renegade nation, I feel compelled to say that it seems like this Little Steven character represents everything I stand against. The only reason I was ever attracted to the name was because I saw a THEM cd sitting on a shelf of an Underground Garage display at Best Buy a few years ago. He's taking something pure and trying to package it and mass-market it and while I'm all in favor of educating kids about music or whatever he's doing with his "rock & roll high school" [original name, btw] joint, I wouldn't want a guy like him doing it. He's getting on talk shows and spewing drivel disguised [poorly] as passion. I'm starting to think that what all these guys are doing, and the crappy watered-down revival bands that tout themselves as "garage", is completely separate from anything real and from everything garage means to me and so many others. I don't care how awesome the website is when it finally is launched [if it hasn't been already].. it just doesn't seem real to me. [in fact it seems so straaange ;p ]

Blech. That's all I have to say.

I might also remind you that your first comment in this topic (which was started as an honest critique of his lame website) was "Fuck all of you if you don't like the way LS does things. That kind of purist mentality is just plain childish."

Purist mentality? I think you have displayed that here more than anyone else! How much more childish and purist can you get than telling everyone you disagree with to fuck off?

Why are you taking this so personally or trying to make something personal out of it? On one hand you say you don't care, but you sure are quick to defend Little Steven for just about every jab given him here. So what's the story? Are you secretly Little Steven? I wouldn't doubt it the way you're so knee-jerkingly defensive about everything. And frankly, I don't care if "there are people out there who don't like the way" I "do things." They can set up their own websites/podcasts/whatever. It's a free country. But then again, I don't make it impossible for people to get in touch with me, either. I'm out in the open, and hey, I'm a busy guy, too. Doesn't mean I can't take a few minutes to respond to emails. And, oh yeah, I don't tell any of the podcasters here what they can or can't play on their shows, either. Which is one reason why the GP podcasts kick the hell out of UG. MikeL said:

Well, it's his operation, and I'll let him run it as he sees fit. All I really care about is discovering new bands and bands that I've never heard of before. Quite honestly, I just don't care about all the Spinal Tap BS that goes on behind the scenes. I'll bet there are people out there who don't like the way you do things, kopper, but that is your problem, not mine. kopper said:

Mike, you're missing Isabella's point. No one cares if you like LS or his stupid show, but it's his dictatorial influence over the music featured that is in question. Why, of ALL people involved in this music scene, is he the ONLY arbiter of cool for that station? How did he become the self-appointed guru of garage? If he really wanted to be diplomatic about this, he'd appoint a music committee to review band & label submissions and come up with a list, rather than putting the kibosh on the DJs adding music to their playlists and having it basically be his own decision. Imagine if there was one guy back in the '60s whose sole judgment it was to say whether a band was good (or "cool") enough to record and release their records? Then where would we be?

MikeL said:

Again, each to his or her own. I like LS, and I like his show, and nobody here is going to change my mind. Of course, I'm not going to change your mind either, so that makes us even. And yes, it is a business, and as you get older, you'll find out that's the way the world works.

Isabella Gloria said:

ack! what makes HIM an authority of taste? I'm glad you see exactly what I'm talking about. that's a hideous way to go about business, but that's what it is, isn't it? just business. I hate what he does in the arena, but it's not like he's the only big head in the music business to have ever acted like scum. thank clapton for garagepunk! [btw.. i listened, and it was far out. poe-influenced garage! doesn't happen every day (; ]

kopper said:

Amen, Isabella! Siriusl (sic), I couldn't agree more.

From what I understand, the ONLY Underground Garage DJ that is allowed to introduce new bands on his show is Bill Kelly. I know this because he introduced a band on my label, The Nevermores, onto his show. Their tune "I Lost Lenore" got a 14-week rotation and lots of great exposure from that, and the band was thrilled. Little Steven remarked later that he though the song was "cool" so I sent him another copy of the CD. Bill's allowed a few adds per month (I think that's how it works). It's my understanding that he is currently the only UG DJ to have that privilege. That's because the legendary producers Kim and Andrew were adding songs that Steven thought were crap and he put a lid on DJ adds. He has been known to bust balls when he hears something he doesn't like. Bill is given leeway since Steven has acknowledged that he used his WFMU show ("Teenage Wasteland") as the prototype for UG and has always treated him incredibly well.

Isabella Gloria said:

I haven't read the entire discussion, but after I saw that 'commercial' on renegade nation, I feel compelled to say that it seems like this Little Steven character represents everything I stand against. The only reason I was ever attracted to the name was because I saw a THEM cd sitting on a shelf of an Underground Garage display at Best Buy a few years ago. He's taking something pure and trying to package it and mass-market it and while I'm all in favor of educating kids about music or whatever he's doing with his "rock & roll high school" [original name, btw] joint, I wouldn't want a guy like him doing it. He's getting on talk shows and spewing drivel disguised [poorly] as passion. I'm starting to think that what all these guys are doing, and the crappy watered-down revival bands that tout themselves as "garage", is completely separate from anything real and from everything garage means to me and so many others. I don't care how awesome the website is when it finally is launched [if it hasn't been already].. it just doesn't seem real to me. [in fact it seems so straaange ;p ]

Blech. That's all I have to say.