Chris (?) - Nathan Barley? Book ? TV SHOW ? Neither ? Is it some extension of Steam Punk , only more Dickensian. I remember , if I'm not mistaken , Lee "Scratch " Perry had an LP called "Super Ape".....No connection , I guess. I know what you mean , you don't want to knock your local bands , if they're cool people.

MATT - Scion or Vice I don't know about , either.      EXCEPT VICE MAGAZINE/RECORDS. Sounds like it's just as well..... It's almost too easy to take shots at Punk - Pop or Epitaph , excluding the Cramps and Wayne Kramer,......But , I'm not being innundated with it like I was in the 90's. A lot of things are under my radar , now , too.

Well , most people agree "Hate in The 80's" and "Scavenger of Death"were the best things Bobby Soxx did , but that was earlier. Bobby played out , early on, with the Dirkx Bros.( aka The Telefones , Dallas , and possibly Texas' , most popular Power Pop band . But , it seems they did'nt appear on that recent "Radio Ready" comp.) , who backed him on that 45 , as The Nazis From Hell  (Such originality).....then revamping his group as The Teenage Queers (More originality - But it was a contest to come up with the most outrageous names - V.D.Generats , Sharon Tate's Baby , Vomit Pigs , Smegma ,etc.)   , which , as I recall , was the formative Stickmen With Rayguns (Actually , a great name , but, live , I found 'em horrendous. Some agree , some don't.

Some people , if I tell 'em I lived in Dallas in the 80's , go "Stickmen ! Bobby Soxx !", as if The Nervebreakers never happened .

I was a big Kiss fan in Jr. High. They were the first Rock concert I attended , with Bob Seger and Artful Doger opening . But , unlike , say  , Alice Cooper , when I walked away from Kiss , Aerosmith and solo Ted Nugent , I really never went back.   Even tho' I DON'T MIND AEROSMITH IN MODERATION , NOW , And some solo Nugent , with Derek St. Holmes on vocals,  they had some good toons. Just don't need to buy it.

Black Flag - I've only ever owned "Jealous Again" and the "Decline " tracks. Pre - Henry , I could take....I ONLY REALLY LIKED "T.V. PARTY" FROM "DAMAGED" , AND ONLY A SMATTERING OF LATER STUFF. I AGREE , THEY BECAME  LESS INTERESTING. But , I was never much of a fan , to start with. Some of the bands I mentioned , for example , The Cars , they don't bother me as much , because I don't have to hear them almost daily , like in High School and early College.   They were one of those bands , like AC/DC , I TRIED to get into , but , just could'nt......

I know I cited examples off the top of my head that are still well liked in many circles. But , as you say , each to his own.

There are so many other bands I really loathe , if I thought about it, and you might just agree.

God knows how we agree on BONE - O and U- Douche.....But , I admit , I liked their first album at the time , and parts of the second and third albums. This was still before they were a HUGE arena band.   Bono accused Flock of Seagulls' Guitarist of ripping off and commercializing The Edge's sound. IN REALITY , though , it seems The Edge did the same with Keith Levene's Guitar sound....

THANKS FOR THE INPUT .

Matt said:

Most bands mentioned are so far off my radar that I have no trouble ignoring them. I guess if I was forced to listen to Pennywise or NOFX...etc I would hate them. However, playing in bands and going to shows frequently, I tend to aim my haterd towards bands I am forced to sit through in order to see the band I came to see (not always, but frequently). Unfortunately these are usually local bands. There are definitely good local bands here, but also a lot of hipster Scion/ Vice/ Watered-down punk/ garage bands that really annoy me. I used to smoke cigarettes and always went outside to smoke durring these obtrusive bands, but since I no longer smoke it has become more of a bring-down on my nights out. I don't intend to out local bands that I hate, I'm sure they hate my bands too, but my point is, the other stuff I find easy to ignore, the stuff I am forced to hear is what I really hate. 

I like over half the bands John hates. Not huge on Stickmen, but the Bobby Soxx with Learn To Hate/ Scavenger of Death single kills, I like all Black Flag up to My War and then even a lot of stuff after, but the albums got less interesting, KISS - I like the first 6 albums, Black Metal is too borad, but I like a lot of Black Metal bands... anyway, to each their own. 

I guess U2 is a band I activly hate hate. Can't escape Bono. 

 

 

Vice? That was the inspiration for Sugar Ape in "Nathan Barley". Anyway, most of the more Nathan Barley bands kind of get on my nerves sometimes, but there are good ones too. Fuck Buttons are quite Nathan Barley, the name just reeks of it.

 

Most bands mentioned are so far off my radar that I have no trouble ignoring them. I guess if I was forced to listen to Pennywise or NOFX...etc I would hate them. However, playing in bands and going to shows frequently, I tend to aim my haterd towards bands I am forced to sit through in order to see the band I came to see (not always, but frequently). Unfortunately these are usually local bands. There are definitely good local bands here, but also a lot of hipster Scion/ Vice/ Watered-down punk/ garage bands that really annoy me. I used to smoke cigarettes and always went outside to smoke durring these obtrusive bands, but since I no longer smoke it has become more of a bring-down on my nights out. I don't intend to out local bands that I hate, I'm sure they hate my bands too, but my point is, the other stuff I find easy to ignore, the stuff I am forced to hear is what I really hate. 

I like over half the bands John hates. Not huge on Stickmen, but the Bobby Soxx with Learn To Hate/ Scavenger of Death single kills, I like all Black Flag up to My War and then even a lot of stuff after, but the albums got less interesting, KISS - I like the first 6 albums, Black Metal is too borad, but I like a lot of Black Metal bands... anyway, to each their own. 

I guess U2 is a band I activly hate hate. Can't escape Bono. 

I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S SO WHINGING , OR WHINEY AS WE YANKS SAY (I LIKE WHINGING AND WHINGEY , THO' ).

I guess they figure younger people will relate to that...   It does'nt even sound like teen angst .   "Smells like  Pre - Teen NAPPY !"

On the good news front , guess what? I found teh Viz second "Big Pink Hard ONE" book a few days ago! I could'nt believe it ! I have the first book , that's how I got absorbed The Viz Vacuum , some 25 years ago.   God ! They're so primitive. There's only a half page , each , on Sid The Sexist and Biffa Bacon.       We're getting Viz again , here in Chicago. When Tower Records closed , no one carried it for years. But ,  I generally only buy it if there's a Sid , a Roger NELLIE AND/OR BIFFA BACON. Still love Modern Parents and Fat Slags.....BUT , I saw the new issue the same day I found that book from 1989.....The differnce was like .......well , it was like Pete Shelley , Knox , Leonard Grave Phillips , Eugene Reynolds and other people who can carry a tune , and this WHINGING Pop- pUNK.   NO , THAT'S NOT FAIR. THE NEW VIZ IS FINE , JUST A LOT MORE SLICK.                 

Why is pop punk so whinging? What would happen if you played something like The Sonics or "Sliced Tomatoes" by The Just Brothers?

I LIKE THAT. "BED WETTING BANDS". THAT'S HOW I'VE FELT ABUT PUNK POP/VAN'S WARPED TOUR BANDS......BUT. while I was once a teenage boy , myself , in my teens , Punk might have been dead , might have been , but it was so recent , they were still paying off the burial expenses and headstone fees.   In about '97 , I was at a party of mostly underage drinkers. Oh , yes , I blew the whistle on 'em -" help. police. help". But they were playing all this terrible whiney , wet mypants PUNK POP GARBAGE. Sure , maybe I was just too old to get it , but , I had to think , these kids have access to all these great reissues of original 70'S pUNK stuff that I DID'NT HAVE. It WAS SIMPLY CALLED "oUT OF PRINT" , MUCH OF IT , BY THE EARLY TO MID 80's.

Plus , I thought , Punk Pop . or Pop Punk(As we used to call it.) , The Dickies could eat these bands for breakfast (And find a cool prize at the bottom of the box.), too say nothing of The Vibrators , Rezillos , Buzzcocks , Boys , Lurkers , etc.      Just then , a Dickies song came on , proving my point. To myself , anyway.

Disagree with a few here. Green Day, as long as we're talking everything up to Nimrod - all went quickly downhill from there in a big stadium-sized shit bowl! Think the first few records were great punk-pop. Gotta say though that they'll always hold a special place as they were my first concert - Dookie tour when I was 13. Black Lips as well I think are greatand Nirvana, well can't hold their Shitleback-spawning legacy against them!

Shit bands are easy to list. Recently Coldplay and every other bedwetting band that came along on their coat-tails. They really wanna be U2, and have comptition from the Kings Of Leon, who I thought could've done something great, but when the stadiums and cash beckons they showed their true colours. 

Anything decidely emo or rock-rap = sheiiiiiiite!!!

But, as Offspring once said (on their last decent album)...

I never saw the show, but what made it so bad?

I never watch it because I KNOW it's gonna suck, so I don't know (nor do I really care) what I missed. ;)

I guess its kind-of general knowledge around these here parts...but man, I just dont seem to fit in or understand at all THE GRAMMY'S. I mean, it was a horrible show. The way I see it, rock would be dead if it wasnt for groups like us.

THE TRIP! JAN. 26TH SHOW!

Listen here!  (Right click and save):  http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/381-The_Trip-20140126-0030-t1390696200.mp3

The setlist: 


THE GREEN BEANS - SUPERSTITION 
JIMMY PAGE - SHE JUST SATISFIES 
THE PLEBS - BABE I'M GONNA LEAVE YOU 
THE IGUANA(S)- BLACK SUIT 
E IN BRINO - INDIANAPOLIS 
THE RUMBLERS - BUGGED 
THE BIKINIS- BIKINI 
THOSE ROGUES - GIRL 
THE TRASHMEN - BIRD BATH 
KEN NORDINE - BATHTUB 
SLIM HARPO - SHAKE YOUR HIPS 
THE RUNABOUTS - LOBO 
ANNISTEEN ALLEN - FUJIYAMA MAMA 
THE WILD TONES - SICK CHICK 
THE CONTOURS - WHOLE LOTTA WOMAN 
GUITAR WOLF - SUMMERTIME BLUES 
BLACK JOE LEWIS AND COOL BREEZE - BOOGIE 
TOMMY SCOTT & SCOTTY LEE - EXCORCISM 
THE PRETTY THINGS - L.S.D. 
LOS YORKS - EL PSICIDELICO 
AUTRY INMAN - VIETNAM BLUES 
RAY STEVENS - JEREMIAH PEABODY'S ETC. 
THE KINGSMEN - I GUESS I WAS DREAMING 
THE OTHERS - OH YEAH! 
THEE HEADCOATS - BALLAD OF THE FOGBOUND PINHEAD 
NEANDERTHALS - GIRL AND A HOT ROD 
TEENGENERATE - DRESSED IN BLACK 
UNTAMED YOUTH - MINOR CHAOS 

Does anybody know if these nice fellows do tour the US? I'm totally hooked to their music and would love to know more about them.

Not that I know of, but if you find anything I'd love to read it.

My first band at 13 were called Condemned Utopia. Then had Nothing Yet at 16, christened when we plugged a gig in The Big Issue in the UK and didn't have a name. When asked what we were called, our bassist replied, "nothing yet", and so we were. It lasted one gig till he discovered Kula Shaker and changed the name to Djin.

No European dates yet? Hmmm

Love Roky's record with Okerrvil River!

Bummer Kopper! I think there was supposed to be a Chicago date there some time in Early Feb as well? Surely someone in Garageland can find the Kopp a tickie? :D

Nice to see he's on the road again! Too bad he's not coming to CA. Maybe I can travel... I'd love to see him!

I'm pissed because I just missed out on tickets to the St. Louis show. Couldn't believe it's sold out already, ugh!

Anyway, here are the tour dates. Don't be a DOPE like ME and snooze/lose...

01/31 Lawrence, KS - Granada *
02/01 St. Louis, MO - The Firebird *
02/03 Minneapolis, MN - First Avenue *
02/04 Madison, WI - Majestic Theatre *
02/07 Newport, KY - Southgate House *
02/08 Cleveland, OH - Beachland Ballroom *
02/09 Detroit, MI - Magic Stick *
02/11 Toronto, ON - Phoenix Concert Theatre *
02/12 Montreal, QC - Corona Theatre *
02/14 Washington, DC - Black Cat *
02/15 Pawtucket, RI - The Met *
02/16 Philadelphia, PA - Union Transfer *
02/20 Asheville, NC - The Grey Eagle *
02/21 Nashville, TN - Mercy Lounge *
02/22 Atlanta, GA - Terminal West *
02/24 Orlando, FL - The Social *
02/25 Miami, FL - Grand Central *
02/26 St. Petersburg, FL - State Theatre *
02/28 Houston, TX - Fitzgerald's Upstairs *
03/01 Dallas, TX - Granada Theater *

* with Black Angels

Crud. Can't find how to edit my posts... didn't get the url in there right... my apologies... the Strypes site is:

http://thestrypes.com/

Definitely check them out!

There's sooo many (I'll get to posting more later), but, one that comes to mind at the moment is the Stypes. Great new band out of England. Incredibly talented musicians, and so young. Check them out.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthestrypes.com%2F&ei=qMnkUu7_NcOy2wW_1IHADQ&usg=AFQjCNEy-a7ckvXrzvZEzwvxDztsqcJv3A&bvm=bv.59930103,d.b2I

Ooh... that sounds like fun! I'd consider making the trip for that. Dunno of any fests like that around here. There's mods and rockers (would have to check the dates) in LA annually, for the most part, and there's the roots music fest (Adams Ave Street Fair) in SD, in the fall I think, but, other than that, I don't know of too many things out this way. There was a garage-ish fest here in SD a year or two ago... I should see if that's happening again, and if so, I'll post the info. And I'm going to Coachella (in Indio, CA) in May, for what that's worth.

Muddy Roots is not a "garage" festival, per se. In fact, it started out as an "underground country" festival.

But this year's line-up includes The Sonics (!!!!), Mudhoney, The Monsters, Rev. Beat-Man, The Blasters, The Weirdos, Legendary Shack Shakers, Left Lane Cruiser, etc. 

It's Aug. 29 -31 in Cookesville, TN 

Info here: http://www.songkick.com/festivals/55436-muddy-roots-music/id/18869739-muddy-roots-music-festival-2014

I would love to be able to find dirt cheap flights for Burgerama in March. And I did find dirt cheap flights to Orlando for Florida is Dying earlier in March but I would have to miss too much work during a new-hire probationary period.

OK, can we get a list of all the garage/punk fests worthy of discussion on this site listed here in this topic? I'd actually like to try and get out to see one or two of them. I've been in exile for far too long, so please, post what's happening when and where, and maybe I can make arrangements to attend (and hopefully, you can, too!).

Gracias!

Playlist 01/25/14