I remember when the Flaming Lips did Strychnine. They were weird but my kind of weird. Personally, I think they DID sell out. People think they got better but I think they got boring. I thought Soundgarden got boring as well, but I didn't hate them like I hated Flaming Lips. I never did like Smashing Pumpkins. Pesonally, I was surprised by the whole Nirvana thing. I didn't ever get my hands on the Butch Vig demos (which really weren't demos as they were supposed to be a 2nd Sub Pop album, they just sound like demos in comparison as they were done on the cheap)that they were doing like my friends had, so I never heard the songs until after the album actually came out. The live songs I did hear in early 91 were the songs you heard on the second half of NEVERMIND (side 2?). So yeah, I was surprised.