Not sure if this is what you're after or not (it's not even three minutes long, much less thirty!)...
Not sure if this is what you're after or not (it's not even three minutes long, much less thirty!)...
Many years ago I caught a documentary, about 30 minutes long, about Mike Spenser. To say it was a shock is an understatement as the Cannibals were never big in the UK and MS was, to most, an unknown. I never thought to record it at the time and have never seen it repeated. I've been through Youtube as well and there's nothing there either.
Does anyone else remember seeing it or does anyone have a copy?
This was discussed on the Bomp List many moons ago:
http://bomplist.soybomb.net/2000/04/msg00605.html
I seem to remember that basically the Gibson Bros. had sampled a piece of an A-Bones' record and that caused a ruckus. No credit was supposedly given, etc. Or maybe they'd made some rude noise after the 'Bones sample (and *still* not given credit or paid for the use or something like that.) The Norton folks objected to the use, at any rate and the Gibsons obviously didn't like being given crap for it. Or, at least, that's the little I remember about it.
There's a thread on the Terminal Boredom board which explains a little more: http://terminal-boredom.com/forums/index.php?topic=24544.0 and I seem to recall (although based on somewhat hazily-remembered conversations with Howland and Evans) that it was all sorted out somewhere along the line.
I was reading the sleeve notes on the Gibson Bros.' "Memphis Sol Today!" record (which features Jeffrey Evans and Jon Spencer) and I noticed they printed "Support Free Speech: boycott Norton Records!"
Does anyone know the story behind that and if the "beef" still continues to this day?
In the book "We Never Learn", the author briefly mentions the beef, but doesn't explain it (that I am aware of).
It's good to see so much interest in these kind of bands as it's the sort of stuff we've been playing on our shows, as well as the more 60s inspired garage stuff that seems to get far more coverage. Check out Church of Thee PVC here and our other non GaragePunk Radio show Polyvinyl Craftsmen that features much of the same plus music from loads of other genres too.
You can also check out:
Thee Holy Ghosts (http://theholyghosts.bandcamp.com/)
Dusty Mush (http://dustymush.bandcamp.com/)
Strange Hands (http://strangehands.bandcamp.com/)
Definitely The Moonhearts, I was listening to their LP yesterday and it really does have a Black Lips sound.
I, too, love the Black Lips! A few other suggestions I'd add to the list: Wavves, The Night Beats, Brimstone Howl, The Moonhearts (aka Charlie and the Moonhearts)
Our sincerest condolences.
Too, too young. Saw them a few years back in Spain and if I recall right, one of their mothers was with them for the trip. Just kids. But a great band none the less. Condolences to all who knew him.
My best to his friends and family. It sounds like he was great guy who clearly who will be missed greatly.
so sad...sympathy to his family & friends.x
There's one chance left to listen to my July show - at midnight tonight (UK time) - featuring the ususal mix of psych, garage, electronica and everything else I can lay my hands on.
New August show starts streaming on 1st August (surprisingly), with 3 tracks from the latest Garage Punk Hideout comp, a preview of the Liverpool International Psychedlic Festival, and loads of new stuff, including ace Cambodian psych-pop, drone-y bluegrass and some lovely dub, as well as a couple of vintage rock n roll moments.
Give me a shout if you like what you hear - pete@dandelionradio.com
I made the cover. Do you know how hard it is to find quality images of the Band? Impossible. Even my comp cds have pretty crap photos.
John Battles said:
THULL , Thank you. I wonder who did this clever retooling of,was it "If I Stay Too Long" pic sleeve? It was'nt used to promote the gig , originally . I did one flyer and Steve Krakow from Galactic Zoodissier (New issue out . BIFF , BANG , POW ! Buy this monster , NOW !) did another. You can see mine on my profile , plus , some pics from that two - night mind melter. Actually , I need to put some more up there......
THULL , Thank you. I wonder who did this clever retooling of,was it "If I Stay Too Long" pic sleeve? It was'nt used to promote the gig , originally . I did one flyer and Steve Krakow from Galactic Zoodissier (New issue out . BIFF , BANG , POW ! Buy this monster , NOW !) did another. You can see mine on my profile , plus , some pics from that two - night mind melter. Actually , I need to put some more up there......
I'd seen most , not all , of this performance , but , the quality , here , is so good , it's scary. I scored a copy of "Jams" on a VHS comp of Beat Club clips 20+ years ago , but , before You Tube , the other songs never seemed to surface. You never would have guessed this was a band on it's way out . They had a second chance in Europe in '72 , but even that newfound attention could'nt save their careers.
Stream or download the July 27 show right here.
Deadline – The Challengers
Straw that Stirs the Drink – The Baseball Project
I Sell Soul – Rocket from the Tombs
Final Stretch – The Oblivians
You Can’t Buy My Love – Barbara Lynn
Ichiro Goes to the Moon – The Baseball Project
Let’s Make a Fair Trade – Bob King
Hijack the Radio – The Nervebreakers
Strange Movies – The Troggs
If Looks Could Kill – Laughing Hyenas
Crazy Date – The Senders
My Girlfriend is a Rock – The Nervebreakers
Rich Daddy – The Dicks
Do the Beege – 10 Cent Fuck Flicks
Tube Top – Jam Messengers
Burn My Eyes – The Mess Around
Groovy Intuitions – Adam Widener
You Shot Me – River City Tanlines
Local Lunchbox
Mr. Supportive – Fatty Acids
Of Metal – Certain Stars
Constant Waves – The Ripe
I’m Gonna Break Her Heart – The Ugly Beats
Every Summer Day – The Last
The Rack – The Last
Don’t Drag No More – Susan Lynn
I’m OK, You’re OK – The Dickies
This Love is For Real – Stupidity
Llevo Un Tigre En Mi Guitar – Los Fleshtones
Jump Inside – The Smoggers
Royal We – MFC Chicken
Daddy Walk – The Felines
Papa Oom Mow Mow – Hi-Fi Twins & The Kings
Going All the Way – The Squires
It’s Karate Time – Travis Wammack
Lookin’ For a 7-11 – Ben Vaughn Combo
Get Out of My Car – Hasil Adkins
Love Don’t Love Nobody – James Brown
Hot Weather Blues – Mr. Sad Head
Not the Only Girl in Town – The Cool Jerks
Bad Man – The Sights
Shame – Million Sellers
Lost Highway – Midnight Wolf
Golden – Kelly Hogan
When I Fall Down – Chris Mars
Grow Your Own – Red Jacket Mine
I Didn’t Miss You at All – The Electric Mess
I’ll Make You Sorry – Shadows of Knight
Monkey Swing – New Kind of Mambo
Moonstars – Laughing Sky
Summertime – Strange Hands
Speed of Sound – Beat Mark
Titles elude me , sorry , but last years "Product " from Pierced Arrows , Lemmy's Head Cat , Michael Monroe , Alarm Clocks , The Dyes , Sonics , Jerry Lee Lewis , Chris Ligon and The Problems , Figures of Light , and others. I'm guesstimating on the dates.
P.S. Despite the Elastica / Wire controversy , when I first heard "Connection" by Elastica , on the radio , I thought it was "Message To Charlie " by Lithium Xmas.
John Battles said:
I LIKE(D) "London Calling" for reasons that are radically different than "The Clash" . I still give it a spin once in a while , but the first (US and UK) HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE .
They carried that energy over into the second album , to an extent , but lose the plot somewher. Still some good songs , there. Later , "Sandinista " is where , to me , their self - indulgence emerges in full force. Does'nt mean there are'nt some good songs , though.....I dunno.
A friend told me The Clash were The Beatles of Punk. That they started with this ruff'n'raw thing , and , eventually came up with "London Calling" , which he called their "Sgt. Pepper", moving into "Sandinista!" , which he called their White Album. Interesting theory. I guess "Combat Rock " would be more of a "Let it Be" , if anything ,than an "Abbey Road". I guess , too , it makes no difference.
Bottom Line : Were they uneven? Yes. Did they still make some great music ? Of course.
But , bands that were considered "Punk" , But , made it? Hmmmmmmmm. I admit , I like Elastica , just the first album , still play it once in a great while. I liked The Jesus and Mary when they just had those now - unattainable singles in The UK. I DID'NT THINK THEY HAD A HOPE IN HELL OF MAKING IT IN THE USA. But , I also did'nt think Dwight Yoakum would make it , because he was TOO Country. But , you could say bands like that were merely Punk reaction. I don't think Punk "Came back " until the 90's , when CBGB's started doing a booming business , and The Dictators , Real Kids , DMZ, Jayne County and the like were back at it.....iN THE UK , HUGE FESTIVALS LIKE "Holidays in The Sun " gathered up nearly every English Punk band still living and eager to play......There was even a BIG festival , recently , to commemorate the Diamond Jubilee - co - billed as "The Last Jubilee".
I knock a lot of the 80's stuff, sure , but there was always good music , if you were willing to go find it , and we did , without the internet , without MP3s.
If people still ENJOY Punk Rock , then , you could argue it's not dead. The more I heard Pop Punk , the more I wanted to retreat into the vastly underrated Dickies , and The Rezillos/Revillos , Vibrators , Buzzcocks , Boys, Lurkers , even The Cichlids , bands with pop hooks that did'nt sound like 10 year olds wetting their pants , ok?
I LIKE(D) "London Calling" for reasons that are radically different than "The Clash" . I still give it a spin once in a while , but the first (US and UK) HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY FAVORITE .
They carried that energy over into the second album , to an extent , but lose the plot somewher. Still some good songs , there. Later , "Sandinista " is where , to me , their self - indulgence emerges in full force. Does'nt mean there are'nt some good songs , though.....I dunno.
A friend told me The Clash were The Beatles of Punk. That they started with this ruff'n'raw thing , and , eventually came up with "London Calling" , which he called their "Sgt. Pepper", moving into "Sandinista!" , which he called their White Album. Interesting theory. I guess "Combat Rock " would be more of a "Let it Be" , if anything ,than an "Abbey Road". I guess , too , it makes no difference.
Bottom Line : Were they uneven? Yes. Did they still make some great music ? Of course.
But , bands that were considered "Punk" , But , made it? Hmmmmmmmm. I admit , I like Elastica , just the first album , still play it once in a great while. I liked The Jesus and Mary when they just had those now - unattainable singles in The UK. I DID'NT THINK THEY HAD A HOPE IN HELL OF MAKING IT IN THE USA. But , I also did'nt think Dwight Yoakum would make it , because he was TOO Country. But , you could say bands like that were merely Punk reaction. I don't think Punk "Came back " until the 90's , when CBGB's started doing a booming business , and The Dictators , Real Kids , DMZ, Jayne County and the like were back at it.....iN THE UK , HUGE FESTIVALS LIKE "Holidays in The Sun " gathered up nearly every English Punk band still living and eager to play......There was even a BIG festival , recently , to commemorate the Diamond Jubilee - co - billed as "The Last Jubilee".
I knock a lot of the 80's stuff, sure , but there was always good music , if you were willing to go find it , and we did , without the internet , without MP3s.
If people still ENJOY Punk Rock , then , you could argue it's not dead. The more I heard Pop Punk , the more I wanted to retreat into the vastly underrated Dickies , and The Rezillos/Revillos , Vibrators , Buzzcocks , Boys, Lurkers , even The Cichlids , bands with pop hooks that did'nt sound like 10 year olds wetting their pants , ok?
I did hear they were very good , but , that the usual chaos ensued between Michael and Andy. I heard , at one gig in Finland , they started screaming at each other, in Finnish , on stage , and Andy marched off , not to return, and the other Guitarist had to hold the show. I saw Andy , twice , playing guitar with Iggy. He really gave Iggy that spark. He'd let loose with some wild fretwork , and Iggy would try to match him , dancing. I have the two Hanoi Rocks CD , AND AN EP , from the revamped lineup. They're not bad and they're not great.
But , yeah , that Dolls/ Poison / Crue abomination , I urged people not to go , and it did'nt take much doing. It's too bad The Dolls lost Steve and Sam , because I thought they added a LOT , but, they add even more to Michael's band. I'd seen Michael in...'90 , I think , and last years' show was so much better , it's not even funny. The previous show was good , drunk , bumbling Slash cameo and all , but , there's no comparison. Monroe is on top of his game , which is really good to see.
The Fnords said:
I've seen Hanoi Rocks, both way back when and more recently. I also happened to be in Finland in 2001 when Mike Monroe and Andy McCoy played at a festival to test the water as to the reception Hanoi would receive (didn't go - I was motor racing instead). My friends translated the (glowing) reviews for me!
D.
"Well , yeeeeaahh. I hung quite a bit down at Sun Studios. Sam Phillips would'nt even let me record there. I said , well , Sam , I mean , Mr. Phillips , who are you leasing all these great Blues records by Howlin' Wolf and Pat Hare and Ike Turner to , anyway ? He told me about these two Polish immigrants in Chicago , had a little label , up there. I thought Polish cats in Chicago only made Polka records , man ! But , me an' Keef , he's from Memphis , too , y'know , we had to get our arses up to Chicago , and THAT's when Keef found out , right , about Chuck Berry. Fuck me , man , he aped Chuck so good , he got to be his fuckin' bandleader in that movie , right? But , Chuck did'nt wanna sound like Chuck no more , and , you know , we did'nt wanna sound like The Stones no more , neither , but we got past that with "A Bigger Bang" , which I think only sold about a half a mil. Were'nt Don Was' fault , man , it's a great record. Maybe , next one , we can do at Sun Studio. I mean , what ? Sam Phillips is gonna turn us away? Mick Jagger .