I like it all but I have to go with the Reatards. It has more of that old Rock & Roll feel if ya know what I mean.

Pour Depravos De La Mour ,    I see it , now , Friday , not Saturday. I still can't make it. I did listen to some of your tunes , and advise others to do the same. Some of you might think it's "Garage" , some of you might not. I don't think anyone's going to say you can't play in the Garage Rock Treehouse if you don't meet their every exacting criteria. People talk about stuff that is'nt remotely related to Garage Rock , or does'nt apear to be , here , just to exchange ideas and opinions. And , speaking of opinions , I thought you sounded a little more  "Punk" or even early "Post Punk" , as in 70's and early 80's , not what passes for Punk , now ,  than "Garage" , but , I'd have to give it a few more listens to say who or what it really reminds me of. I do like the fact that the one song with vibes on it does'nt sound like Northern Soul. 

DEPRAVOS DE LA MOUR said:

our show is FRIDAY NIGHT. tomorrow. we go on first. we hit the stage at 9:30. we have songs on our page. a click will get you a blast in the face with BEAT DOWN!

John Battles said:

Depravos De La Mour ,

Non , VOUS est playing musique Saturday at Le Rouge Line Tap , Oui ? Non mois. Not that I would'nt play there , I just don't think they're ready for me. In fact , it's a pretty safe bet they are'nt. I played at The Heartland Cafe , once , in 1989. What a colossal mistake THAT was , but , I think it was my first paying gig in Chicago . The Heartland did'nt pay me . My friend , the late Stu Coy of Oncoming Traffic , did. 

I think it's more than fair to say we all have different definitions of what is and what is'nt "Garage". That does'nt necessarily mean one party is right and the other is wrong. But , I don't think I'll be able to make it to your show , that night , as I've already made plans to go to the Music Box Massacre Horror Film Fest , and to a Girlie Calendar party , and , if I don't run out of steam , the Dreamerz reunion.

But , thank you for asking. If you have any songs on your page , I'll check 'em out , and try to see your band another time.

Chicago , of course , is legendary for it's back history of Garage bands , but , I've lived here almost 25 years , and I could count all the local bands I've seen , that filled the bill , on both hands , and still have a few fingers left over , even if I included The New Colony Six's one - shot All Garage set , last year. I knew a lot more people who were into this stuff back when Wax Trax (The Record store , NOT the label.) ruled , and the clubs were'nt spread so far apart. It's still "Indie Uber Alles" around here , even moreso than in the days when Dreamerz was the only game in Wicker Park , and Billy Corgan was still working in a crappy used record store on Broadway.

simple answer to the question: Yeah-new trend.

But don't worry. 

What is underground will be underground, and what is commercial wil be commercial. 

underground just becomes more underground hah.  can be a good thing

Depravos De La Mour ,

You may or may not have to explain to a majority of these people what "Pitchfork " is. Though , the image of bear shit on a real pitchfork sounds like a punchline to a pretty funny joke. But , friends "Pitchfork" is the big Indie Rock /whatever festival , held in Chicago , each year. Not much to recommend about it. They have thrown the record collectors a bone by hosting Os Mutantes and Mission of Burma , but , it's not enough for me  , personally , to get geeked up about. Even Lollapalooza had The Stooges , Roky Erickson and Patti Smith , one year. But , they had more money and a momentary lapse in crappy taste . But , before that , there was a one - off festival called Intonation , sponsored by Vice Records. It was a very nicely run affair , even the security people were cool , BUT , yes , it was mostly crap , musicwise - White Rappers , Cookie Monster Metal , Robert Pollard , etc. , BUT , they also brought Blue Cheer out to play their first Chicago gig in 35 years , and Roky Erickson , for his first Chicago gig , ever.  Both made the other drek irrelevant (Oh , yeah. It already was.). Pitchfork blew it out of the water, never to return. Personally , I've dealt with Vice Records . I was asked to write a Bio for Pierced Arrows (Admittedly , the only band on the label I can name.) their website , and the people at the label were very cool with me , and very helpful. I had a major computer meltdown , and they helped me through it. But , it's too bad about their festival , got to admit , it was a good time. I don't see a "Garage " festival happening , here ,  except on a small scale , like last year's "Caveman - A - Go - Go". It's always been a limited audience , here ,except in the mid - 60's , when there were "Teen Clubs" and church dances almost everywhere.

I don't know how some things got to be called "Garage". I saw The Black Lips , they were nothing like Garage Rock . And , I mean , even if you stretch it. But , they have an audience , that's cool. I saw The White Stripes several years before they made it. I thought "Well , if I want to see someone riffing on Msr. Jeffrey Evans , I'll go see The Knoxville Girls , again. At least , they meant it. ". I stood thru about half of it. It was'nt too interesting , even back then.

When they did make it , under the banner of "Garage" , I said , "HUHH?!!".   

DEPRAVOS DE LA MOUR said:

we got pointed here by you because we are trying to sell out but nobody's buying. seriously though (one eyebrow up /slanted smiles) this brings up something that is probably one of the hardest things a band must do. describing yourself. giving yourself a label that will attract people who might otherwise pass you by. this is loathesome to all of us bands as we are unique. that is what we must believe in order to keep going. we worry that maybe strictly speaking we do not belong on gph. we have heroes and inspirations that are firmly in the canon but we do not really sound like them. kopper is there a gph tribunal that passes judgement on who is really gp? we firmly believe in such a thing as good music and bad music. it is not a matter of opinion. it is a fact. facts (despite what the republicans think) are solid and immovable objects. they exist and there is nothing you can do about it. most of those whiny sensitive bear shit bands on pitchfork are BAD MUSIC. there is a terrible pretense to having soul that just makes us fucking angry. having said all that  probably none of it belongs here. just forget it.

kopper said:

Hell yeah, it's trendy as fuck right now. And it's really annoying. I keep hearing or reading of "garage" sounds or influences in bands that sound NOTHING like garage rock (or "garage punk," for that matter). I think it's just the state of the music scene right now. Bands like the Hives, White Stripes, and Black Lips (amongst others) really put "garage rock" in the mainstream, and then you had labels like Vice Records jump on the bandwagon with lots of money to promote it with the help of corporations like Scion, and BOOM. It's the "next big thing." Problem is, too many of these bands are just plain BORING, and I bet most of 'em wouldn't know a Sonics or Oblivians tune if it hit 'em on their heads.

Oh, and by the way, I never could stand the Strokes. As far as I'm concerned they were the "Pearl Jam of Garage Rock," a fabricated band, totally fake, with crappy music that might be OK when compared with the rest of mainstream "rock music," but pales in comparison to most of the real garage rock/punk out there.

Woa man theres so many: I never liked reading but it seems like the only way to get info on bands and cool stuff nobody seems to give much of a squat about.

Lately Ive been through these ones: DooWop:cousin brucie/Tommy & the Shondelles Me and the Mob/Allen Freed bio/ Warren Zevon I'll Sleep when Im dead/kinks a very english band

Anybody have any recommended rocknroll literature? Pulpy kinda stuff that stirs fantasies of long gone cool stuff. Some of the bios Ive read even seem sureal so theres gotta be some cool, old novels Im missing out on. Stuff like Kerouac but with more early rocknroll descriptions rather than jazz would be cool to read.

Yeah, I met them before. Anything interesting coming up in AnnArbor? 

Lately I listen to Lantern fronted by Zac Fairbrother (myspace.com/themagiclantern), PC Worship (myspace.com/pcworshipp), and the Super Vacations (myspace.com/meetthevacations) for current garage tunes. .

I like Ty Segall, he dips into a lot of outside influences like T. Rex, Syd Barret, British Invasion and even a bit of grunge but he's got the melodies and keeps it interesting. I probably don't speak for everyone but there is only so many times I can hear the Nuggets comp reinterpreted without wanting something new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL1QUp47G9A&feature=related

Hi DeadBoy! Sorry, I had no idea you were part of our United Nations group, thought you were a Yankee! "Young Loud And Snotty" is the name of the first Dead Boys album, I assumed you were a fan! Perhaps there's some way to get whatever you have to say, translated on this site?? So you wouldn't have to worry about your English. Where are you from anyway? Who are your favorite bands? What have you been listening to lately?

Luv,

Zane

Hi Sleazy! You have a wide variety of likes in music, so do I! I started collecting records when I was 5 years old with help from my mom who used to scratch a line on the A side of singles so I knew what song was the "hit". Not much time passed before I told my mom "there's a whole nother song on the other side!!!" Yep, discovering the B side of singles made me quite a rebel in my neighborhood among us toddlers....before you knew it , I was like a B side Queen, I could name the B side of almost every hit single...anyway, I love a lot of solo pop artists like Petulia Clark and Nancy Sinatra and my fave ....LuLu...Tom Jones Tommy Roe...and a man I always wanted to marry ...Johnny Rivers but that's only if Jeff Beck isn't available! ! I started dancing when I was very young and all of the stuff my teacher played was instrumentals and I have a tons of different kinds of music. Bowie was one of the biggest influences in my life and I had a aqua blue Bowie cut in 1973 which actually not a lot of people had huh? And just a few years later punk came along and I fell in love with music all over again!!! So how old are you if you don't mind my asking? You seem to know a lot about early rock n roll. You have to keep in mind that even though I'm probably older than most of you...I was still too young to even be seeing the bands I was seeing...as for Lana, No, I don't know her but I did her astrology chart for her a few years ago...(I'm an astrologer among other things...) as a favor for Rudi whom I DO know. However and here's some nice gossip for this site....Lana forbade Rudi to keep in touch with me and we are no longer friends!

THere would be heaps to talk about on this topic. I love Joss....she's pretty and spunky too.....she is quite known now esp after singing in Mick Jagger's new band!!! Howevre, there are other ladies out there in the 'shadows of musicland' who deserve better coverage.....e.g. The Pandoras, singer in the Persian Claws, etc. Too many to mention actually :)!
Say Zane.....don't you have something to do with the Fuzztones??? You're username is not new to me.....talkin' 'bout the Tones, do you know Lana Loveland?! She's kick ass 2:)!

Zane Arillotta said:

Hi Sleazy! I can see we have the same taste in singers as I'm a huge fan of both Janis Joplin and Grace Slick but unfortunately never saw them live. I especially identified with Grace Slick not just for her voice, but also for her look. She had long dark hair and bangs which is what I've had pretty much most of my life! I think the only KNOWN singer out there right now, or at least known to me in the "mainstream" world of music that has a kick ass rock n roll voice is Josh Stone? What do you think?  I'm sure there's so many more out there that we might hear from but only if they upload their stuff, having to feel like you need to be "signed" to be heard, thankfully, is a thing of the past! Thank gawd that whole "folk singin celtic" phase is gone...at least I think it is....though it sounds pretty, I'd never spend actual money on it...I like my music LOUD!!! Drums of course are favorite!! So, you said you're doing your bit for the female cause....tell us more!!!!!

Zane

Hi Zane.  I'm not already young, very shy and clean myself up briefly. :D  Too bad, I wasn't video-taped this night.

Hmmm, what do you want to know?  Sorry, my knowledge of English and the Jefferson Airplane is pretty low. :(

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After spending years looking for something approximating a Mosrite, and trying everything I could find, from $10k vintage Mosrites to crappy Eastwood "Sidejack" rip-offs, my friend Dan Moses (of The Dynotones and The Finksville 5) turned me on to Hallmark. I play in an east coast surf/punk band called Motopipe, and I ordered a '60 custom in sunset sparkle. This guitar has shocked me with its quality. For about $1000 I have a guitar that is honestly easier to play and more reliable than the real thing is and I don't have to worry about damaging a guitar that costs more than my car. I don't have any others yet, but I'll be adding a swept-wing as soon as I can afford one. The custom-wound pickups are HOT! Intonation and setup was excellent right out of the case. The only two complaints I've had are 1) I ordered mine in March and didn't get it until August (my color choice was backordered- they offered me a '59 Custom at the same price as the '60 but I really wanted this color so I waited) and one of the string slots in the trem needed a little filing- it broke 2 high-E strings before I figured it out. Unfortunately one of those strings broke during the first gig I played with it. Played it out again last Friday night and had no issues. I've also moved up to heavier strings, which are my own preference. Over the years of using spring-tension trems (bigsbys mostly but now with this one as well) I've found that a heavier spring and heavier strings means better string life and the guitar is more likely to stay in tune longer. The downside is that you can't get as much out of a bend, but I think it's worth it if you like a little more tension and heavier feel as I do. I could see that if you played with really light strings- 9's or 10's, tuning might become an issue but that is inherent to a trem system like that. The Eastwood felt like a cheap piece of crap just picking it up. This guitar feels as solid and well-made as any of my much more expensive US-made guitars, and Bob Shade at Hallmark is just an email away anytime you need to talk to him. Can't beat that sort of direct access to the man at the top. He stands behind his product. P.S. the case is really rad too!

What do I think? I love Hallmark guitars. How much does this one cost out on the market?

This is another example of modern companies reproducing those cool/sought-after/hard-to-find guitars from the way back. But they tend to play a lot better (and/or may be in better shape) than the originals.

Eastwood is another example of this kind of company.  

Cool stuff!

I just saw Man Or Astroman and the rhythm guitarist was playing one of these swept wing things!

http://www.hallmarkguitars.com/guitars/swept-vintage.htm

What do you think of these?

This more like shameless self promotion but my budy is making clones of FZ-1, FZ-1A, and mosrite fuzzrite.  He does a pretty dam good job.  Drop me a message if ya interested.

I want this one day. 

Would that be a hollowbody teardrop?  At any rate I would go with the solid body ones.

dying slowly said:

is there a diferance in tone beetween the phantom and teardrop

(im 14 and british ,if i could id get a phantom in all white , white mith black pick guard or all black or just a white teardrop :))

 

Show #345: "Bands & Artists Starting With P, Part 7"

Every 3 weeks I do a show where I randomly draw a letter from the alphabet. Then I play all bands & artists in my collection from the 50s, 60s and 70s that start with that letter in alphabetical order. This week I drew the letter "P". This is the seventh time I've drawn the letter "P", so I will start from where I left off (which was with Protozoa). So, tune in tonight (Friday at 10:00pm EST) to hear 3 hours of bands and artists that start with "P" like: Proud Flesh, Prudy, Psychic Motion, 2 different Psychotics, Psychotrons, Public Nuisance, Gary Puckett & The Union Gap, The Pudding, Puff, Pugh, Pugsley Munion, The Pulsating Heartbeats, Pulse, 2 different Puppets, Pure Jade Green, Pure Prairie League, The Purge, The Purple Canteen, The Purple Fox and many many more!!!

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Egg

amen, my brotha.  I also have a show called Kustom City Sounds and it definitely has a garage slant, i don't limit mself to only playing garage music. I agree with you that he just thought up a cool name, and of course with anything that's starts cool, it gets co--opted into something else.  I just say on my show that if it has the spirit of rock and roll then it get's played. maybe he should do something in that vain, but I am sure he has registered the name and blah blah blah.  I just don't see how Springsteen was ever considered cool, just my opinion.  His show has kind of become a place for Bruce shit, but I do listen sometimes.  

joey fuckup said:

What I'm going to say here is by no means important, nor is it going to part the rock 'n' roll sea, but I personally think Little Steven should have, or should call his show something else other than what it goes by now. I mean "Underground Garage" is a cool sounding name, IF the show was JUST THAT. Don't get me wrong, it's fine that he plays a variety of music, after all, it is his show, he can play whatever he wants or sees fit. But it would be a lot more fitting if he just called it something like "Little Steven's Rock 'N' Roll (whatever)", which may sound lame, but at least it won't come across as advertising itself being an all garage show. For people who aren't familiar with garage music will come to his show and get a distorted idea of what the genre is. And yes, I have listened to his show on the radio (when my shit rock station here carried it), and it was refreshing to hear '60's garage mixed in with newer bands that I liked. But there was others added into the mix that had me scratching my head, as has been mentioned in this discussion. Whatever, he plays what he wants, I just don't think he should advertise it with such a banner of the scene. If you do think about it, people who have no clear idea on what garage is are going to think that bands like U2 and Green Day are relevant to garage rock 'n' roll, when they don't...Bottom line: Don't promote yourself (or show) as something you may not be. I host the "Hayride To Hell" podcast, and even though I play country music, I don't promote it as a country show.

joey fuckup said:

For people who aren't familiar with garage music will come to his show and get a distorted idea of what the genre is.

Yep, and those distorted ideas just helps contribute to stuff like this:

http://garagepunk.ning.com/forum/topics/is-garage-trendy

What I'm going to say here is by no means important, nor is it going to part the rock 'n' roll sea, but I personally think Little Steven should have, or should call his show something else other than what it goes by now. I mean "Underground Garage" is a cool sounding name, IF the show was JUST THAT. Don't get me wrong, it's fine that he plays a variety of music, after all, it is his show, he can play whatever he wants or sees fit. But it would be a lot more fitting if he just called it something like "Little Steven's Rock 'N' Roll (whatever)", which may sound lame, but at least it won't come across as advertising itself being an all garage show. For people who aren't familiar with garage music will come to his show and get a distorted idea of what the genre is. And yes, I have listened to his show on the radio (when my shit rock station here carried it), and it was refreshing to hear '60's garage mixed in with newer bands that I liked. But there was others added into the mix that had me scratching my head, as has been mentioned in this discussion. Whatever, he plays what he wants, I just don't think he should advertise it with such a banner of the scene. If you do think about it, people who have no clear idea on what garage is are going to think that bands like U2 and Green Day are relevant to garage rock 'n' roll, when they don't...Bottom line: Don't promote yourself (or show) as something you may not be. I host the "Hayride To Hell" podcast, and even though I play country music, I don't promote it as a country show.