Dude, we're trying to stick up for you but it's getting hard.

Its Not Only Rock n' roll said:

what? Next time...i will say it all in my language!
i dont about it...
Pim Scheelings said:

Yeah i don't think they teach English at Indonesian schools so it's a accomplishment for the guy to write any English at all.

Joanie Lindstrom said:

Let's see how well you write in Indonesian.

Johnny Bean said:

Man your English is terrible, maybe you could write in your own language and we could understand you better?

Its Not Only Rock n' roll said:

Sex pistols...The Adverts, Ramones...to punk has gone...
The clash is not for one of them
Great hits for the album


Johnny Bean said:

For the all the albums listed here if you want a good sampler the "NME Best of the 70s" is a greatest hits of all the albums mentioned on this thread (Stooges,Saints,Ramones,Dead Boys etc) most of the song choices are pretty obvious but its a great snapshot of those glory days and has been my top Christmas listening.

Yeah i don't think they teach English at Indonesian schools so it's a accomplishment for the guy to write any English at all.

Joanie Lindstrom said:

Let's see how well you write in Indonesian.

Johnny Bean said:

Man your English is terrible, maybe you could write in your own language and we could understand you better?

Its Not Only Rock n' roll said:

Sex pistols...The Adverts, Ramones...to punk has gone...
The clash is not for one of them
Great hits for the album


Johnny Bean said:

For the all the albums listed here if you want a good sampler the "NME Best of the 70s" is a greatest hits of all the albums mentioned on this thread (Stooges,Saints,Ramones,Dead Boys etc) most of the song choices are pretty obvious but its a great snapshot of those glory days and has been my top Christmas listening.

Let's see how well you write in Indonesian.

Johnny Bean said:

Man your English is terrible, maybe you could write in your own language and we could understand you better?

Its Not Only Rock n' roll said:

Sex pistols...The Adverts, Ramones...to punk has gone...
The clash is not for one of them
Great hits for the album


Johnny Bean said:

For the all the albums listed here if you want a good sampler the "NME Best of the 70s" is a greatest hits of all the albums mentioned on this thread (Stooges,Saints,Ramones,Dead Boys etc) most of the song choices are pretty obvious but its a great snapshot of those glory days and has been my top Christmas listening.

anything by penetration

Man your English is terrible, maybe you could write in your own language and we could understand you better?

Its Not Only Rock n' roll said:

Sex pistols...The Adverts, Ramones...to punk has gone...
The clash is not for one of them
Great hits for the album


Johnny Bean said:

For the all the albums listed here if you want a good sampler the "NME Best of the 70s" is a greatest hits of all the albums mentioned on this thread (Stooges,Saints,Ramones,Dead Boys etc) most of the song choices are pretty obvious but its a great snapshot of those glory days and has been my top Christmas listening.

For the all the albums listed here if you want a good sampler the "NME Best of the 70s" is a greatest hits of all the albums mentioned on this thread (Stooges,Saints,Ramones,Dead Boys etc) most of the song choices are pretty obvious but its a great snapshot of those glory days and has been my top Christmas listening.

Wire's Pink Flag
The Real Kids Self Titled
Ramones Rocket to Russia
The Jam All Mod Cons

I will probably buy the slap echo,because i got some more money in from my grandmother.

After one year of consideration, and a lot of pedals tried, i decided to buy the Boss frv.I wanted a spring reverb.I would like a lot to buy a tank,but that's just not possible.So i bought the pedal wich supposed to be the mini-tank(digital of course).It works pretty good for me.The only thing left to do ,and then i'll be able to have a complete opinion on it, is to gig with it.

Jamie said:

Danelectro has made several delays. I'm betting the "slap echo" is the Dan Echo. Just from a brief internet scan it looks like the delay time on the Fab Echo isn't adjustable and is fixed at slap back. Scan some youtube videos and if you like what you hear then that's what you'll be getting.

 

What reverb pedal did you get by the way? That's another subject of interest around here.

Danelectro has made several delays. I'm betting the "slap echo" is the Dan Echo. Just from a brief internet scan it looks like the delay time on the Fab Echo isn't adjustable and is fixed at slap back. Scan some youtube videos and if you like what you hear then that's what you'll be getting.

What reverb pedal did you get by the way? That's another subject of interest around here.

Hello, last year a big Italian band, that i can't say what kind of music they played, came to my city. The guitarist had a tele and a fender twin reverb. His sound was really clean. The band consisted of many instruments so you hardly noticed the guitar. But his sound was very surf-like. I asked him at the end of the gig if he could suggest for me a good pedal. He told me that the best i can buy was an echo pedal, the danelectro slap echo. And he told me it was really cheap. Now that it's christmas i decided to buy it. But since i just bought a reverb pedal i don't have much money left. Then i found danelectro fab echo which costs half as much as the slap echo. Is it any good or should i buy slap echo?

Sorry for the long introduction.

I would suggest running through a small amp and then micing it. It doesn't have to be a small tube amp, solid state will do just fine. If it's small it will probably distort anyway even without built in distortion. That's been my experience.  I would suggest finding a way to split the signal (perhaps a small cheap mixer or a guitar pedal with two outputs) and then run a clean signal to the PA or tape recorder, computer, etc. that way you can blend the signal to taste.

Old harp mics look pretty promising too. I've used them before but you may have to try them individually to see how distorted they are. I'm guessing it varies.

I'm a little skeptical of any "mojo" that anyone ascribes to small, cheap tube preamps because I think all of them are "starved plate voltage" designs. Which means there's nothing about them that's similar to any preamps of the sixties. However, that doesn't mean they couldn't be used as an effect if you like the sound of them. The end result is the only thing that matters.

Thanks for the advice! But I don't have any small tube amp, and the bigger ones we got, we use them live. I have a small 15 watt vox that is 30 years old though, I think I'll experiment a bit with it. But if you consider the tube amp solution and the cheap preamp one, why not get into the tube preamp? I think that I'll end up buying the ehx one, it can't be bad and has a gain control, I can even change the tubes for better ones If I'm not satisfied (http://www.thevintagesound.com/store/electroharmonix-12ay7-tube-mic-preamp-p-157.html).

I wonder though, can you just simply use a xlr->jack transformer? I heard that I was a bad solution and that it was necessary to use a DI box or a preamp to transform to high impedance. I've already plugged my mike into an amp using that "bad" method and nothing bursted but.. I'm sceptic ^^

Oh and if anyone wonders, the sound I get live with my band, using the digitech vx400 in a cheap console in the basement of a bar, is like that: http://www.myspace.com/thewhackattacks (the recording is really crappy, yeah, I know, even in the room it sounded bad anyway because of the huge amount of natural reverb you get when you play in a cave-like place..)


The Vonz said:

Hey Teddy

I too am always looking for new vocal sounds (especially ther garage variety), I use an old layfayette mic from the 60s on a lot of stuff (it is super low fi but not real warm, similar to some of the harp mics discussed here), I also add distortion , reverb and other effects when recording, which work real well.  A few options, run a mic through a little tube amp and you can tweak the gain, reverb etc, or try a cheap mic pr like the one ART sells (30 bucks) see it here>  ART Tube Pre .  I just bought one and will be experimenting with it this week, I will let you know what I come up with (if you care ;-) ).

Peace,

Chaz

Hey Teddy

I too am always looking for new vocal sounds (especially ther garage variety), I use an old layfayette mic from the 60s on a lot of stuff (it is super low fi but not real warm, similar to some of the harp mics discussed here), I also add distortion , reverb and other effects when recording, which work real well.  A few options, run a mic through a little tube amp and you can tweak the gain, reverb etc, or try a cheap mic pr like the one ART sells (30 bucks) see it here>  ART Tube Pre .  I just bought one and will be experimenting with it this week, I will let you know what I come up with (if you care ;-) ).

Peace,

Chaz

Thanks, man! We're realeasing our first EP "Remember the Alamo!" by the end of January!

The Vonz said:

Hey Diogo, this is a side note, but I dig your sound, I checked out your tunage.

Nice work

Chaz

Diogo Augusto said:

Have you thought about using one of these: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/classic/520dx_gr... ? The two videos on my profile feature me singing through a Green Bullet. I really like how it sounds and maybe it's what you're looking for...

Hey Diogo, this is a side note, but I dig your sound, I checked out your tunage.

Nice work

Chaz

Diogo Augusto said:

Have you thought about using one of these: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/classic/520dx_gr... ? The two videos on my profile feature me singing through a Green Bullet. I really like how it sounds and maybe it's what you're looking for...

I duct taped mine to a mic stand clip so I can easily grab it and walk around the stage.

Teddy Jungle King said:

No one simply uses a mic preamp? I saw that Electro Harmonix did one, I thought there might be some better ones on the market. .
Also, you can't get the harp mic off the stand, right? Not the best option for a bit of live action ;)

No one simply uses a mic preamp? I saw that Electro Harmonix did one, I thought there might be some better ones on the market. .
Also, you can't get the harp mic off the stand, right? Not the best option for a bit of live action ;)

:) This mic responds very nicely if you increase the gain on the console. It also works very nicely if you connect it to a valve amp. In my case, I was aiming for the sound I got but that's not nearly as dirty as it can get. You'll probably have more replies here but you should searching Youtube or something to see what it can do. The problem is that the mic is meant to be a harp mic so I'm not sure you'll find out anything using it for the voice.

Give this one a listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZCq5ojHAFU . I also recorded it using this mic but it sounds a lot dirtier .

Teddy Jungle King said:

It's kinda nice! I'd like a bit more of gain though, it sure sounds rock'n'roll but not enough garage to my taste ;)

Diogo Augusto said:

Have you thought about using one of these: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/microphones/classic/520dx_gr... ? The two videos on my profile feature me singing through a Green Bullet. I really like how it sounds and maybe it's what you're looking for...

Yeah, sorry, I really don't hear it.  I don't even hear obnoxiousness.  Everything about it just seems too cute.

Hideout Admin said:

Seriously? This is one of the best songs I've heard in years. Catchy, trashy, slightly obnoxious... exactly what I love about garage rock:

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Art student rock...that's a good one.  I'm gonna use that to describe someone like No-Bunny.  Fun for some but I don't see what's so great about it.

Axel said:

Until today I had never heard of scion, nor would I have thought that it's a car brand. So I learned at least something from that documentary. Fred and Tody Cole are great as always, and thanks to the Spits there is  a 2nd good band included. Furthermore I got the impression that jay retard was a total idiot, just like the guy from the smith westeners and that what some people call garage I'd call art-student rock. But it could be worse: UK Garage Music

Seriously? This is one of the best songs I've heard in years. Catchy, trashy, slightly obnoxious... exactly what I love about garage rock:

Rockin Rod Strychnine said:

Art student rock...that's a good one.  I'm gonna use that to describe someone like No-Bunny.  Fun for some but I don't see what's so great about it.

Axel said:

Until today I had never heard of scion, nor would I have thought that it's a car brand. So I learned at least something from that documentary. Fred and Tody Cole are great as always, and thanks to the Spits there is  a 2nd good band included. Furthermore I got the impression that jay retard was a total idiot, just like the guy from the smith westeners and that what some people call garage I'd call art-student rock. But it could be worse: UK Garage Music

I listen to them on my PC at work, My Phone when driving. I broadcast from my Ipod to my DAB radio when I'm cooking, I pump them directely through the stereo when my wifes away (I Hope The Neighbours Keep Quiet about That) and a cheap portable MP3 player while I am at the gym. All I need now are a few more hours in the day.

Dave Devine of the Cripplers is a member here, even though it doesn't look like he visits all that often:

http://garagepunk.ning.com/profile/davedevine

Their LP on Dionysus is great, and they have an as-of-yet unreleased 2nd album that was recorded in Memphis and produced by Alicja Trout (Lost Sounds, River City Tanlines, etc.) that is even better. I'm trying to convince them to release it digitally but they haven't gotten back to me yet. In any event, there are a few previously unreleased tracks on the TIRC Records' "Landlocked & Loaded!" compilation you can download from here, too, if you'd like:

http://www.troubleinrivercity.com/

More Cripplers:

Recordgrooves said:

The Trash Award

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3lNLGIdjhA

Hi,

Teenage depression, is a very good one...from eddie and the hodrods

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyWJ-2dDsBQ

Christmas 1979 is the one I play on my turntable every Christmas now whilst consuming vast quantity's of strong ale. It's by far the best Christmas song ever! Mind you I quite like the instrumental "Christmas" by Gallon Drunk.

Seriously, They were never gonna sound like they did back in the day.