February 5, 2014 11:27 PM CST
No one's mentioned 1 2 5 by The Haunted?
A buddy of mine had a band which was pretty directly inspired by that song. Take a listen to them here http://calpeckandthetramps.bandcamp.com/
Good luck with the harmonica, I've tried and given up so many times.
February 5, 2014 8:26 PM CST
That link is killer! I'll read more of it tomorrow. Thanks for that.
February 5, 2014 4:14 PM CST
Good point , I forgot they were still finding their way in '73. Just as people don't want to recall The Bad Brains were formed from the ashes of a Jazz Fusion group , til they later came under the spell of Reggae and Punk. It just did'nt make good copy "Before The Ramones"......THERE'S STILL SOME TIGHT GROOVES THAT GO BACK TO RAW FUNK IN SOME OF DEATH'S RECORDINGS. That's not a bad thing. i'd say they were Punk , or Proto Punk , but not in a Ramones /Heartbreakers /Dead Boys kinda sense. Most people that had'nt dared venture into The Bowery at the time would'nt have known anout the embryonic NYC PUNK SCENE.
What Death were into was VERY different from the Black music scene in Detroit , obviously , but , even if they knew teh right people , it might've taken them at least a couple of years to infiltrate the post Stooges/MC5 club scene , which did go one to include people like Hiawatha Bailey (Cult Heroes) and The (Detroit) N****ERS , who , reportedly , were assembled by a White Svengali www.roctober.com
click on Black Punk. Lively up your damn self. : ) John.
February 5, 2014 9:25 AM CST
Dammit! It quoted your whole thing and i can't edit it. I'll try again:
John: " THE RAMONES BEGAN , IN EARNEST , IN 1974. DEATH STARTED OUT , WHEN , IN '73 ? ."
You're spot on with everything in that post. But to further your point, i quoted this to point out that Death actually didn't start until Spring of '74 (the Ramones formed in Jan '74), they didn't write "for the whole world to see" until Oct '74 (and of course, the Ramones were playing CBGB's by August...with March being their first show), and "for the whole world to see" was recorded on Feb 18th, 1975 (the ramones recorded their first 15 song session on Feb 2nd, 1975).
I love Death and think they were well before their time...but yeah, the whole "Before the Ramones" thing is not only pointless to point out (for the exact reasons you mentioned), but it's not even true, period. I think what confuses people is the fact the Hackney brothers were a funk group called Rock Fire Funk Express in 1973. You can hear their song "people save the world" on youtube, recorded in Sept '73. It's not even close to what they did in Death.
February 5, 2014 9:23 AM CST
John Battles said:
THE RAMONES BEGAN , IN EARNEST , IN 1974. DEATH STARTED OUT , WHEN , IN '73 ? .
You're spot on with everything in that post. But to further your point, i quoted this to point out that Death actually didn't start until Spring of '74 (the Ramones formed in Jan '74), they didn't write "for the whole world to see" until Oct '74 (and of course, the Ramones were playing CBGB's by August...with March being their first show), and "for the whole world to see" was recorded on Feb 18th, 1975 (the ramones recorded their first 15 song session on Feb 2nd, 1975).
I love Death and think they were well before their time...but yeah, the whole "Before the Ramones" thing is not only pointless to point out (for the exact reasons you mentioned), but it's not even true, period. I think what confuses people is the fact the Hackney brothers were a funk group called Rock Fire Funk Express in 1973. You can hear their song "people save the world" on youtube, recorded in Sept '73. It's not even close to what they did in Death.
February 5, 2014 4:03 PM CST
No problem, thanks for helping out with setting up that interview.
February 5, 2014 7:57 AM CST
Thanx for keeping the OG Legacy alive Dave!!!!
February 4, 2014 5:38 PM CST
This week's program was on the Canadian label Og Records that ran from 1983 to 1990. I played lots of obscure Canadian garage and out of print music from Og. I also Interviewed Gerard from Deja Voodoo/Og Records.
Og Play List:
1. Deja Voodoo – Boppin’ 88 (Gumbo 1983 – OG 1)
2. Terminal Sunglasses – Terminal Theme (Wraparound Cool 1985 – OG 6)
3. Drums Along The Gardiner – Vagabonds (Mr. Garager’s Neighbourhood 1989 – OG 21)
4. Desmonds – Bureaucrat From Hell (It Came From Canada Volume 5 1988 – OG 25)
5. Ripcordz – Long Dark Train (It Came From Canada Volume 5 1988 – OG 25)
6. Captain Crunch and Let’s Do Lunch – Goes Without Saying (More Baroque-Post Industrial Hillbilly Launch Music 1989 – OG 23)
7. Ray Condo & His Hard Rock Goners – High Voltage (It Came From Canada Volume 2 1986 – OG 9)
8. Dusty Chaps – Yukon Buddy (It Came From Canada Volume 1 1985 – OG 8)
9. Chris Houston – Surfin’ On Heroin (It Came From Canada Volume 1 1985 – OG 8)
10. Cowboy Junkies – Blue Moon Revisited (It Came From Canada Volume 4 1988 – OG 17)
11. Deja Voodoo – Too Cool To Live, Too Smart To Die (Too Smart To Live, Too Smart To Die 1988 – OG 12)
GERARD VAN HERK INTERVIEW (DEJA VOODOO/OG RECORDS)
12. Deja Voodoo – 48 Bucks (Big Pile Of Mud 1988 – OG 18)
13. The Mongols – Sleepwalk (It Came From Canada Volume 3 1987 – OG 13)
14. Dik Van Dykes – Curling (Nobody Likes The Dik Van Dykes 1987 - OG 16)
15. Condition – Too Hot To (From Montreal 1983 – OG 3)
16. Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet – Good Cop Bad Cop Voltage (It Came From Canada Volume 2 1986 – OG 9)
17. Jerry Jerry & The Sons Of Rhythm Orchestra – Bad Idea (Road Gore: The Band Who Drank Too Much1985 – OG 7)
18. Vindicators – If I Were You (Vindicators 1989 – OG 29)
19. The Gruesomes – For All I Care (Tyrants Of Teen Trash 1986 – OG 10)
20. The Gruesomes - Hey! (Hey! 1988 - OG 20)
21. Deja Voodoo – Coelacanth (Swamp Of Love 1986 – OG 11)
Download/listen to the podcast: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/36-Revolution_Rock-20140204-1030-t1391509800.mp3
Blog post on Og Records here: http://revrock.blogspot.ca/2014/02/it-came-from-canada-og-records-show-494.html
February 2, 2014 5:22 PM CST
This week's podcast featured some 70s punk from New Zealand, new music from Cheap Time (on In The Red records), Thee Dirty Beats, The Exploding Hearts, The Stems, The Waldos and Johnny Thunders.
The Play List:
1. Cheap Time – Exit Smiles
2. Thee Dirty Beats – You Lied To Me Before
3. Hurricane & Able – The Leaves On The Ground
4. Greg Arcade & the Electrics - My Baby Loves To Rock and Roll
5. Shotgun Jimmie – Grow A Garden
6. The Stems – Man With The Golden Heart
7. La De Da – Don’ You Stand In My Way
8. Easybeats – Sorry
9. The Kaisers – Looking Back
10. George Jones – No No Never
11. The Byrds – One Hundred Years From Now
12. Elk – Before The Sun
13. The Waldos – Love That Kills
14. Mods – Step Out Tonight
15. The Stranglers – Curfew
16. The Exploding Hearts – Boulevard Trash
17. Brazilian Money – We Could Just Stay
18. Golden Hands Before God – Communist Party
19. The Beatles – Glass Onion
20. Jack Rabbit Slim – Bop Attack
21. The Cramps – Don’t Get Funny With Me
22. Dead Ghosts – Girl Across The Street
23. Johnny Thunders & The Heartbreakers – Baby Talk (Cassette Version)
24. True Lovers - Bang Bang
25. Marching Girls – First In Line
26. The Spelling Mistakes - Feels So Good
Download/listen to this weeks podcast: http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/36-Revolution_Rock-20140128-1030-t1390905000.mp3
Blog post on The Spelling Mistakes (New Zealand punk band): http://revrock.blogspot.ca/2014/01/the-spelling-mistakes-it-feels-so-good.html
February 5, 2014 11:25 AM CST
Thank You.
I found an old show archived somewhere on the 'net, and now I've found the source.
Excellent.
February 4, 2014 9:06 AM CST
February 5, 2014 10:25 AM CST
Here is a pretty decent and fairly recent interview with Richard Meltzer I just stumbled upon.
http://unionpole.com/assets/otp.pdf
Meltzer is pure genius in my opinion. From Vom and Blue Oyster Cult to the Ascetics of Rock and Gulcher, his work always fascinates me. If you have favourite interviews, writings, articles, stories concerning Meltzer—link'em up!
February 5, 2014 8:22 AM CST
Gonerfest and Austin Psych Fest are two biggies.
February 5, 2014 6:14 AM CST
I haven't heard them, but I received about their torrent.
"The Strypes 2013-08-01 Irish Museum of Modern Art, Dublin, IE"
February 4, 2014 10:45 PM CST
Thank you , Space Case......Phillips and Sun Records was like the NASA of Rock'n'Roll. With a set up that would register below quaint by today's depressing standards , Sam Phillips took it into unknown dimensions. If he heard something in his head, that he could get out of a recording artist , he'd strike while the iron was HOT (Famously telling Gene Simmons "Wrap that fiddle around a goddamn tree , and come back with a hot guitar , boy !". Simmons , incidentally ,once told me he was later edited from some background scenes in an Elvis movie "Because I was so damn UGLEEHHH!! By the way, I don't mean the OTHER Gene Simmons who's SOOOOOOOO GAAAAAHHHHHHH - DAMN UUUUUUUHHHH - GLEEEHHHHH!!!!!!).....
BUT , WHEN SAM MOVED HIS OPERATIONS TO SAM PHILLIPS STUDIOS , He had it all decorated in a White Trash Vision of a Sci - Fi future, realized. i have'nt been able to go there , when I've been to Memphis , but , I hear some of the original fixtures are still there !
February 4, 2014 3:25 PM CST
John Battles said:
Carl Perkins' sphere of influence is immeasurable , that is true . I'd say he and Elvis hit on virtually the same thing within a very short time of each other. Elvis got signed to Sun , first , and Carl was quickly informed that "There's a kid on the radio that sounds like y'all !". He knew he was destined to work for Sam Phillips , but , Phillips took his sweet time promoting Perkins , even bringing him to play studio Guitar on an abortive Presley session (Which , thankfully , survived.). Elvis spoke very highly of Gene Vincent , and , of course , Perkins , whom he was friendly with. Likewise , Vincent said "Elvis has been one of the greatest people I've known since I've been in the business. He helped me a lot when I was getting started.".He praised Perkins , as any sensible performer would do. It seems there was a lot more cameraderie in those days.
Perkins famously said , "Elvis' look really helped the rest of us . Here he was , all pretty , and here we were , lookin' like MR. ED !!!". Of course , most people would'nt say that of Billy Lee Riley , Johnny Cash or even Jerry Lee Lewis , but there were some BOILERS on that label. Seen any pictures of Ray Harris?
No , looks were'nt as important in those days , but Elvis did , as Perkins maintained , provide an acceptable face for the new emerging sounds at Sun Records.
hahahaha you speak the truth, JB. Elvis was no doubt "THE FACE" as much as he was "THE PELVIS." And no matter who anyone thinks is "The King," Sam Phillips was the man with the plan makin' all sorts of Machiavellian magic happen behind the scenes.
February 3, 2014 12:59 AM CST
Carl Perkins' sphere of influence is immeasurable , that is true . I'd say he and Elvis hit on virtually the same thing within a very short time of each other. Elvis got signed to Sun , first , and Carl was quickly informed that "There's a kid on the radio that sounds like y'all !". He knew he was destined to work for Sam Phillips , but , Phillips took his sweet time promoting Perkins , even bringing him to play studio Guitar on an abortive Presley session (Which , thankfully , survived.). Elvis spoke very highly of Gene Vincent , and , of course , Perkins , whom he was friendly with. Likewise , Vincent said "Elvis has been one of the greatest people I've known since I've been in the business. He helped me a lot when I was getting started.".He praised Perkins , as any sensible performer would do. It seems there was a lot more cameraderie in those days.
Perkins famously said , "Elvis' look really helped the rest of us . Here he was , all pretty , and here we were , lookin' like MR. ED !!!". Of course , most people would'nt say that of Billy Lee Riley , Johnny Cash or even Jerry Lee Lewis , but there were some BOILERS on that label. Seen any pictures of Ray Harris?
No , looks were'nt as important in those days , but Elvis did , as Perkins maintained , provide an acceptable face for the new emerging sounds at Sun Records.
February 3, 2014 8:44 PM CST
It is a very good piece. That's about all I remember about that movie , was Hoffman's outstanding performance as Lester Bangs. Both were tragic losses. HEROIN HATES YOU. HATES ME , TOO. Too many great talents , ruined on Heroin and other bullshit drugs.
February 3, 2014 7:22 AM CST
Great article about Philip Seymour Hoffman's portrayal of Lester Bangs in Almost Famous...
http://news.radio.com/2014/02/02/philip-seymour-hoffmans-immortalization-of-lester-bangs/
Such a tragic loss. #fuckheroin
February 3, 2014 8:28 PM CST
What he said. It's too easy to find out about the original stuff , today. We had crappy books , shit liner notes (EVA records , anyone?) , and GOOD zines that were very difficult to find .....Reissues are generally much bette r, too , so , I hope the younger fans will stay with it . In 30 YEARS' TIME , THEY'LL each KNOW ENOUGH TO WRITE A BOOK....OR SEVERAL.
btw , DID'NT MEAN TO MAKE MY LAST COMMENT on "The Adventures of ME" SO LONG. iT WAS LATE. I will say , when I moved to Chicago , i quickly learned that there was a happening Garage scene (There were about FIVE of us !).... The Cynics , ChesterfiELD kINGS (wHO WERE GETTING AWAY FROM THAT SOUND BY THEN , but had a good balance of 60's and 70's Punk , first time I saw them.), Lyres - Sorry. Pretty unexciting . I know there are more Supercentaurians (People who've lived to be 110 AND OVER.) THAN PEOPLE WHO AGREE....Royal Nonesuch , From St. Louis , all these bands played out quite a bit. We had one Garage band in the late 80's , Fang Beach. Virtually all (Obvious) covers , with a sorta Pop approach. They meant well. There've been MAYBE 10 or 12 local bands I'd call "Garage" since.
February 3, 2014 7:29 PM CST
Neo-garage "old timers"? I'll get out my walker and declare, "YES! I was there and I still am." ;)
I'm proud to have remained in the garage underground since the early 1980s(!?!), in garage bands, making lots of records, touring the globe, doing radio shows, writing books about it, shooting videos and releasing DVDs, etc.
I surely hope some of the newcomers to garage will still be carrying the paisley flag 30 years from now so they can be called, with pride, an "old-timer"! :)
And my KNIGHTS OF FUZZ book -- which details the garage-psych rebirth @1980-now -- is being updated and will be avbailable Spring 2014. The original has long been OOP.
So bands & labels: get in your info updates and new sounds to me ASAP!
http://www.purple-cactus.tv/garage-nation/knightsoffuzz.html
Thanks and keep bringing the FUZZ! :)
February 3, 2014 3:25 AM CST
my comment was deleted........I was a little bit too young to have witnessed the first Garage revival , but, remember , that really started as early as '74 with Greg Shaw and Bomp magazine. The Droogs were around as early as '73 , and tried to become Sky Saxon's backing band , but found him too far gone to work with.
MYSELF , I first saw The Fleshtones in '84. I was living in Dallas , so not many bands that you'd call "Garage " came thru , barring The Lyres (Who I missed) , Plan 9 (Who I missed , once , but saw in '86. I got in for free , because I was mistaken for a member of the band.) , The Pandoras (Who'd discarded the dayglo minis and Vox gear , but brought the rock , just the same.) , and not much else. These were the dark ages of teh Garage revival , or so it seemed.......
We had one Garage band , The Shitty Beatles (The originals) , though they were a lot more diverse that the average Garage band. They did Nuggets- era covers , Elvis covers ,Beatles covers , movie soundtrack songs , and their own insane repertoirre of originals. Everything that worked against them would have made them huge stars , today. They were nerdy , primarily overweight guys in their mid - 30's , they all wore glasss , and , the original Bassist had unfortunate facial hair Steam Punks would kill for. Dallas was a youth market at the time. It even took Reverend Horton Heat a while to get over , because he was over 25 and did'nt have Led Zeppelin hair. A Psych/Garage movement was well on it's was by 84 - 85 , led by Lithium Xmas , whose singer/ Bassist , Mark Ridlen , had fronted the underrated Psych/Post Punk band , Quad Pi , and had evenappeared in Ron Howard's now - celebrated TV movie , "Cotton Candy". he classic lineup also featured Guitarist , Mark Griffin , late of The Telefones and The Jetsons. He'd have his biggest success as MC 900 Ft. Jesus. Primary Guitarist , Greg Sinodis , relocated to Seattle and still plays in bands there , today. IF HE WAS'NT SUCH A GOOD gUITAR PLAYER , HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN CREDITED FOR CREATING TEH GRUNGE SOUND. In reality , Cobain was a fan of the band , but , never said so.
The band plodded on for 12 years , picking up new members like Chris Merlick (Fireworks), my Brother, Tom Battles (T. Tex Edwards' Swingin' Cornflake Killers , Howling Dervishes , Jetsons.), Kimberly Pendleton (Backsliders.)and many others. In fact , the band once had 9 members , surely matching Plan 9 at their peak. The band were masters of mind - melting Heavy Psych , but were on their way out when Austin began to take credit for the new Texas Psych sound.....
The Peyote Cowboys started out as a six - piece utter mindfuck trainwreck of a band. They were glorious . Eventually , they paired it down to a three piece , decidedly more melodic brand of Psychedelia , still highly enjoyable. Like Lithium Xmas , The Butthole Surfers took them under their their wing , and the three bands often shared bills. The McDonald Bros. from Red Kross were slated to produce their first album. But , despite all this , teh band never turned out a commercial release . Guitarist/Singer , Murray Hammond , went on to bigger things as The Old 97's Bassist. Bassist , Brad Featherstone , appears to have dropped out of music , but is now well known for taping the infamous incident where Kurt Cobain brained security guy , Tyner Blarcum (sic) , with his guitar, and was pummeled for his efforts. Drummer , Lorna Hicks , dropped out of music when the band broke up , but went on to be Roky Erickson's caretaker when he was at his worst. I believe people like Lorna , in their unselfishness , kept Roky going until he could get back on his feet. She's now happily married.
Later area Psych bands included Hash Palace and Burning Rain , as well as The Other Side , who'd been at it since about '85.
February 3, 2014 12:14 PM CST
the first Damned.1976 !
February 3, 2014 4:40 AM CST
Voix de Garage #14 Special « I got an idea! » (29/01/2014)
(Générique) Know Your Product / The Saints / Eternally Yours / 1978 / Australie (Brisbane)
Erotic Neurotic / The Saints / (I’m) Stranded / 21/02/1977 / Australie (Brisbane)
Ça plane pour moi / Thee Headcoatees / Punk Girls / 1997 / UK (Kent)
Final Solution / Pere Ubu / single / 1976 / US (Cleveland, Ohio)
Wild Honey Pie / Pixies / Pixies At the BBC / 1998 / USA (Boston, Massachusetts)
Help! / The Damned / New Rose (Single) / 1976 / UK (London)
Happinness Is A Warm Gun / The Breeders / 1990 / USA (Dayton, Ohio)
Yellow Submarine / Sebadoh / The Freed Man / 1989 / USA (Westfield, Massachusetts)
We are 138 / The Misfits / single / 06/1978 / US (Lodi, New Jersey)
*Quiet moment* : Run / Obits / I Blame you /24/03/2009 / US (NYC)
Un Jeune Homme Bien / Renée Martel / Single (split Les Marionnettes) / 1966 / Canada (Quebec, Drummondville)
The Urges Theme / The Urges / « Psych Ward » / 2007 / Ireland (Dublin)
*The lesson from Norway* :Blow me like the Wind / Turbonegro / Party Animals /27/04/2005 / Norway (Oslo, City of Satan)
*The 60’s Chapel* : Jezebel / Herman’s Hermits / There’s a kind of hush all over the world / 02/1967 / UK (Manchester)
Life of crime / The Weirdos / single / 1977 / US (LA)
Let’s Got Get Drunk / Johnnie Allan / Cajun Country / 1980 / US (Louisiana, Ville Platte)
*Must be played at MAXIMUM volume* :Heartbreaker / The D4 / 6twenty / 10/2001 / Auckland (NZ)
- See more at: http://www.trensmissions.ens.fr/voix-de-garage14/#sthash.fXJnTBAk.dpuf
February 2, 2014 5:16 PM CST
I think it would be cool to have another!