Another thing you can try that works to lock in with your vocal range is a capo--

THEE DIRTYBEATS said:

Totally agree: play a song in whatever key works best.  It's not always what's best for the singer, either.

Case in point:

When THEE DIRTYBEATS covered The 13th Floor Elevators' "Fire Engine", we did it "B". 

Now, the original version, in "E", is very cool;  but we really admired the intro Television added (see their 1978 live album "Blow Up"), with that insane chromatic chordal build.  And Television's version was in "Bb".   

As we worked up the song in Bb, we found a terrifically vicious downslash effect could be achieved on the I-IV transition if the IV chord was actually an open E rather than a barred F.  So we transposed the song again, this time *up* a half-step, from Bb -> B.

You can hear that guitar downslash at 0:54 (it's wonderfully noisy, if you're into that sort of thing) at http://theedirtybeats.bandcamp.com/track/fire-engine.  Changing the IV to E also freed Jamie to add a soaring thing to his fuzz solo.  While the higher key forced me out of my comfort zone as singer, it kept me on edge and reaching, which for a highly charged rock performance isn't necessarily a bad thing.     
 
We similarly fooled with "Shape Of Things To Come", originally recorded in F# by Max Frost & The Troopers.  We did it in E, because my guitar solo just fell out that way.

-A

THEE DIRTYBEATS maximum vintage garage
http://www.theedirtybeats.com

IS IT TO LATE TO GIVE HIM AN OSCAR ?!!

Bryan said:

Personally, I don't care for Facebook because it's seems like it's nothing more than High School Yearbook forever.

Personally, I don't care for Facebook because it's seems like it's nothing more than High School Yearbook forever.

I know this all just reads like a cry for help , but.....The story goes , that some copies of The Seeds' "Flower Punk" box set contain snippets of "Rhiannon" by Fleetwood Mac.

Thanx a bunch john!! :)

.... I WONDER WHO PRODUCED IT. I KNOW , THAT PAVLOV'S DOG THING TELLS US TO SAY , "JACK WHITE, OF COURSE !".....KIDDING ASIDE , I HAVE HEARD "THE WEIRDNESS" , ONCE. I DID'NT TOTALLY HATE IT , BUT , I HAD TO ASK , IS IT THAT THE SONGS ARE'NT THERE? WELL , THE SONGS WERE'NT FULLY DEVELOPED ON THEIR DEBUT , EITHER. THEN , I HAD TO WONDER ABOUT STEVE ALBINI. I MEAN , HE PRODUCED A FEW ALBUMS I LIKED (FLESHTONES "LABORATORY OF SOUND " , THE MENTALLY ILL "SPANK THE BOTTOM RED" .e.g.) , BUT HOW DOES ONE PRODUCE ANY STOOGES ALBUM FEATURING RON FUCKING ASHETON ON GUITAR......with no guitar solos on it ? Is it just me? Did you guys hear any? Now it's too late to get Ron to dub some on....It is'nt too late to have Deniz Tek dub some solos on Radio Birdman's "Zero Beach". I don't think.

It's true what Iggy says , this is a BAND. Anyone who's seen this lineup knows they came to work their balls off.......So , if that same energy can be , somehow , contained in the studio , great , I'm all for it.  Nice shot at Smashing Pumpkins , BTW.

Hmmmm. I thought the Weirdness was pretty good.

Im extremely optimistic but skeptical. Iggy and the stooges ruled it all before so who knows.

Agree!!

Not sure what to make of this.  I want it to be good, but their last record "The Weirdness" was pretty bad.  Think this will be any different?  The short clip of "Job" doesn't sound terrible.

http://pitchfork.com/news/49683-iggy-and-the-stooges-announce-new-album-ready-to-die-diss-the-smashing-pumpkins-in-the-process/

Leif Garrett??? He's a cunt! Barry Gibb

" I was telling this guy , miracles happen every day. "What do you mean?" , he said , and , I told him , "A Miracle happened to you , today.". He said , "Yeah ? What?!". I said , " YOU GOT UP , DID'NT YOU?".       Smilin' Frank Lugo , Question Mark and The Mysterians.

Hi im Rapley, im 28 and im from Auckland, New Zealand. My favorite band is the DIY legends Dead Moon, I play in garage punk bands, I work as a live sound engineer in the underground rock n roll/punk/metal etc scenes mainly in Auckland but also sometimes round other parts of NZ. I host a specialist show on Aucklands 95BFM playing all our favorite types of music called Dirtbag Radio and i have a battle cat named Foldy

New to this site and really enjoying it, keen to shoot the shit with you cool like minded people

Hey Guys & Gals---I just dropped in-I am not familiar with how this all works yet since I'd never been involved with a network-anyway--rather than me telling you some long-winded intro-go to my website at : www.gregstackhouseprevost.com I used to be in the Chesterfield Kings, which I started in 1976...

Can this thread be refurbished?
I think it is worth saving! 
Cool topic! 

I´ve been misunderstanding you first, sorry!
Not sure what you mean but sounds funny!
:D

Psychiatric Consultations said:

OK---I Give Up---It was me--- I Did it----Its my Fault---Sorry----OK

Had to get that off my chest!

 

Hey all-Just so you all know-it is not sad or a shame about the band being over-I ENDED IT BECAUSE IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON-It had a good run-some good times & Bad times-but time to move on, ya know??? I am TOTALLY INTO MY OWN TRIP RIGHT NOW AND WOULD NEVER TURN BACK-THIS IS WHERE IT IS AT FOR ME-my new album "MIssissippi Murderer" is EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO SOUND LIKE--AND=all this stuff about the Cynics and the C. Kings on the warpath-let me set this straight-I AM AND HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH GREGG KOSTELICH OF THE CYNICS/GET HIP and the CYNICS for decades-NEVER any kind of bad vibes-so whoever is making up this bullshit it is UNTRUE. Got it? As far as me being an asshole-no idea why anyone would make that accusation because I was never rude or nasty to anyone. And the "I've heard stories from a former drummer of the Cynics that the CKs can be real assholes, especially Gregg Prevost" is just heresay,

 Of course , Reg and Ronnie are reprising "The Troggs Tape" in the Great Pub in The Sky.
 
John Battles said:

....I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue....I also forgot to menton "Come , Now". The "Archaeology" 2 CD set (3 counting the infamous "Troggs Tapes" in full) on Rhino will set you  on the right road. I'm sure you'll have to look for it on line , but , it would'nt hurt to contact Rhino regarding it's availability(?). I don't think.

I just found out The Troggs are still touring Europe , minus Lead Singer Reg Presley , who's recovering from treatment for Lung Cancer , and has since retired. It's on their website (Tho' not much else , info - wise.) ....The new guest vocalist put in some time with a later version of The Animals , and some other revamped UK 60's groups.....It can't be The Troggs without Reg , but  , I'm sure he  gave them his blessings .

"YOU START WALKING TOWARD ME , AND MY GLUE COMES ALL UNDONE"

"....MY COOL COMES ALL UNDONE. " - "Get Me To The World on Time" , Electric Prunes.

" i HATE TO SEE YOU SHINING SO BRIGHT YEAH , NEW SURROUNDINGS , HOLD ME TIGHTLTY"   

" MY XKE IS SHINING SO BRIGHTLY. THE NOOSE AROUND US IS HOLDING TIGHTLY."

THE WHO "CALL ME LIGHTNING".

I wish I could sell out so I didn't have to have a shit 9 to 5. Who hasn't compromised at some point through their career.

I remember when the Flaming Lips did Strychnine.  They were weird but my kind of weird.  Personally, I think they DID sell out.  People think they got better but I think they got boring.  I thought Soundgarden got boring as well, but I didn't hate them like I hated Flaming Lips. I never did like Smashing Pumpkins.  Pesonally, I was surprised by the whole Nirvana thing.  I didn't ever get my hands on the Butch Vig demos (which really weren't demos as they were supposed to be a 2nd Sub Pop album, they just sound like demos in comparison as they were done on the cheap)that they were doing like my friends had, so I never heard the songs until after the album actually came out.  The live songs I did hear in early 91 were the songs you heard on the second half of NEVERMIND (side 2?).  So yeah, I was surprised.

....On a local level , I can readily imagine that . I did'nt think of Nirvana or Soundgarden as having a particularly commercial sound , but , I never cared for any of that stuff. It was plain to see Nirvana was going to be big , before "Nevermind" even came out....But , it did'nt seem to me like they planned it that way. Cobain still complained to no end after they did make it. But , that was later. Maybe the idea of success on your own terms was , in his estimation , slipping out of his hands.....But he was'nt being a full out whining little BABY the minute success came , like Billy Corgan did. In Chicago , NO ONE dared criticize Smashing Pumpkins , tho' they sucked from the word "Go".  It was just like a few years earlier , when I lived in Dallas. The Flaming Lips were the band you did'nt dare say you disliked , and they were from Oklahoma.....They were just doing this Classic Rock sludge - Zeppelin meets The Doors meets later Who , played  very badly , but NO ONE (eXCEPT ME.)  used to put them down.

Oh, there were people calling Soundgarden and Nirvana sell outs (even Nirvana were calling themselves sell outs as a joke) here in Seattle, but it was those "underground" types who didn't want to see them get popular and keep them on a local level.  I was rather proud when they were getting ahead and popular.  They didn't pander to industry standards and also they got vinyl written into their contracts and proved you could still sell that format.
 
John Battles said:

....When The Ramones broke up , they were only playing mega - stadiums in Argentina.  They were still playing many of the same venues in the states , and , perhaps in Britain and West Europe , that they'd played 15 years earlier , or to crowd of about the same size. They were'nt hurting , but they were not a multi - million dollar franchise , like they are today , when  , barring their three drummers (Clem Burke did two gigs. He's an honorary Ramone.) , second bass player, and , if you wish , Richie Ramone I from the VERY first , undocumented , lineup (WHO MOVED TO SF and  co - founded The Nuns.) , THEY'RE ALL DEAD.

They went out on a high note , you could say , playing the Lollapalooza tour , but, they were third - billed to Metallica and Soundgarden. I realize The Ramones were not selling millions of records like the other two (Maybe Soundgarden had'nt hit the million mark....YET.), BUT , I SAW NO REASON THE THREE COULD'NT RECIEVE EQUAL BILLING.

No one calls Metallica sell -outs , OK , SOME PEOPLE DO . NO ONE CALLED SOUNDGARDEN OR NIRVANA SELL - OUTS WHEN THEY WERE STILL AROUND (Soundgarden , of course , reformed recently , and , to their credit , they just played a place , here ,  that maybe holds 3 - 5000 people.). But , if a legendary Punk , or proto punk , band  , strikes while the iron's still relatively hot - Be it The Stooges , The Dolls , The MC3 , The Pistols .....someone's going to call 'em sellouts. Rock'n'Roll does'nt have a sweetass retirement package , especially if it never made you rich in the first place.