Great Book, I found Davidsons use of prose initially abit abrupt but the content was ace as well as all the nuts-and-bolts of being in bands, recording, touring and getting ripped-off. I watched an interview on youtube and Davidson said that the book was originally bigger. Maybe in the future it could be re-released as an expanded edition or a kindle/pdf only type thing?
I pretty much never meet those who are into garage/punk 60s-contemporary/Rock'n'Roll..... I don't think people are into the idealistic view of having integrity in music anymore, be it lyrics, musical structure, or even intelligibility or even talent in performance. It seems most people USE popular music, if you can call it such now days, as a social vehicle to be popular by joining whatever cultural trends dominate at the moment. They might be into Karaoke R&B or Karaoke Rap/hip hop set to an butchered instrumental loop of one of your favorite artists or pointless screaming to some monotone noise. Ask anyone what they like about music now days and they might just say "the beat".. pretty ambitious stuff huh?. I think those who are into THIS site appreciate some musical structure and chemistry of melody and rhythm, musicianship, arrangement, performance delivery, raw energy, passion, o r i g i n a l l i t y, maybe some lyrical sophistication or point and a kind of higher standard of aesthetic compared to the dominant "mainstream". Call it snobbish or whatever! People like the type music on Garage Punk Hideout because it's GOOD! I think that is why it's not typical to run into others with similar tastes
What I think is odd is when I see somebody eyeballing an album cover with that "should I?" look.
I might tell them, "hey, that's a good one; you should buy it." And they'll shoot back: "And how come you're not buying it?"
It never dawns on them that I might have that same record at home and might want to recommend it to others. Is that so wrong? It's like they're assuming that just because they've never heard of it, others haven't either.
Hell, if I didn't own it, I might be silently wishing they'd put the damn thing back, so I could grab it for myself!
John Battles said:
SOMETIMES , I'LL SEE SOMEONE CHECKING OUT A GREAT RECORD WITH A LOOK , LIKE "SHOULD I ?", AND I'LL TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM. But , that rarely turns into a real conversation...
Once, in the early nineties, I met a couple of people who knew who Hasil Adkins was. Now, it's not so much of a big deal, but twenty years ago it sure as hell was. We were at a party around that time where I was accused of talking about music too much. And I can't really blame myself, considering how few people I knew back then (including John Battles) who were into that kind of music. Not that I was afraid to change the topic, but I wanted to milk that cow dry before we moved on down the list. And these people weren't even collectors, per se - they were just ordinary citizens who just happened to cross paths with Hasil's music somewhere down the road.
At that point, I was in my early 20s and did know people whose musical tastes were close to mine. But not to the point where they could go deep like that. I could wear a Replacements or Velvet Underground or Robert Johnson T-shirt and get thumbs-up from passersby. But as far as cratedigging for obscure 45s, I was the Lone Ranger. (Remember, this was when most people my age were dumping their vinyl for CDs.)
It's not like now, where every other hipster (male and female) goes digging for old singles and then gets a DJ night. Matter of fact, this is how much things have changed in two decades: back then, if I saw someone wearing a Sun Records T-shirt, ten times out of ten it was a stone-cold Sun fanatic who knew the lesser-knowns as well as the stars. Now, if you see someone in that same T-shirt, they probably won't know Sun from Moon; they just bought it because it was in the gift shop at Graceland.
Alex said:
I almost never run into people with the same music taste. Basically if I want to go to a show or even the record store, I go alone. When I do run into someone with the same taste at a party or something, I get pathetically giddy. That said, I'm still amused every time my friends make jokes about my not liking bands that have more than 50 fans or bands that someone else has actually heard of. It's a point of pride.
no,i don't know it.When ''she smells so nice'' was ''released'' recently,i posted about it on the discussion forum and got ...maybe one or two replies.
melissa scott said:
Yes, and you know it -- Doors and Stooges.
At least we have the Hideout to 'meet' people with the same tastes in music, films, tv, cars, drinks, etc.... :D
Yeah, WTF? Could be because out and about people in general believe the hype that all strangers can't be trusted. But those same people are ok talking to strangers online. Go figger.
Ghislaine Korb said:
NEVER!...oooh how come all of us say the same?WTF?
Gonna go against the grain here and say pretty damn regularly. We're in a small city, but there are quite a few rock n roll bars that fill up every weekend with rockers and rollers. I moved here three years back from Manchester (UK) and, while there there's a massive amount of folks who you meet on a night with similar tastes, I never thought I'd be able to walk into a bar on a Sunday afternoon and hear The Sonics follwed by Tom Waits. I guess it also helps that everyone talks to strangers here. There's not that immediate cynicism that they must be after something.
This stuff's been known , on a collector level since the early to mid 70's , then became something of a movement by the late 70's. But , there still are'nt enough people behind it to dismiss it as a "Fad".
Mardy Pune said:
Never, I'm known as the guy who listens to that weird music. One of my friends once told me the whole garage rock/punk thing was a fad that would be all gone in a couple of years...
Virtually NO ONE trusts anyone else , even if they're just saying hello , or dispensing with a stray compliment , to just say SOMETHING....Sometimes it does take something , like someone wering a T-shirt or button that suggests they may like some of the same music as you. Even then , a lot of people are'nt real keen on conversing with people they don't (Yet) know....Not that that's the absolute rule , but it'slike that , most of the time. Alot of people think they're too cool. Merde. melissa scott said:
Yes, and you know it -- Doors and Stooges.
At least we have the Hideout to 'meet' people with the same tastes in music, films, tv, cars, drinks, etc.... :D
Yeah, WTF? Could be because out and about people in general believe the hype that all strangers can't be trusted. But those same people are ok talking to strangers online. Go figger.
Ghislaine Korb said:
NEVER!...oooh how come all of us say the same?WTF?
Never, I'm known as the guy who listens to that weird music. One of my friends once told me the whole garage rock/punk thing was a fad that would be all gone in a couple of years...
It happened a lot when I worked in a record store in the mid-'80s. Not so much since then. I met quite a few recently at SXSW, but I'll have to wait a year to meet any more.
At least we have the Hideout to 'meet' people with the same tastes in music, films, tv, cars, drinks, etc.... :D
Yeah, WTF? Could be because out and about people in general believe the hype that all strangers can't be trusted. But those same people are ok talking to strangers online. Go figger.
Ghislaine Korb said:
NEVER!...oooh how come all of us say the same?WTF?
Wild Mutha is really easy, almost the same structure as Ape Man by The Kinks, Larry may use some faancy chord variations but these are the basics:
intro: E D A E
verse: A E
chorus: D A F#m D E A E
bridge: same as verse and chorus
A skill to learn for rock and roll is the hammer on with the little finger. Make a bar-chord/powerchord shape with two fingers and the hammer on and off with the little finger. Easy when you know how. The lead part is a mixture of simple rock n roll lead with a twist of surf whereby you drench the guitar in reverb and play one note leads. Its really tricky to do consistently well.
Red Cobra #9
A bit trickier, the lead makes it seem difficult but it's actually a really simple song:
Verse/chorus: D E D E A
Break: A C D
Lead: D D C D D F D F D F D C D (starts on A string 5th Fret)
Yeah, I've seen quite a few of the Northwest sixties bands over the past 20 years or more and the Kingsmen only impressed me once (more to do with HOW they played, not WHAT they played though they did throw in stuff like Dirty Robber and Justine butthat was just the one time). Most of the time they suck. Wailers were good the first time I saw them but each performance afterward just got more boring. While it's sad that Kent Morrell passed on, he was more fun for people who grew up with him than the cureent garage fan.
John Battles said:
In the 80's , I saw The Kingsmen (Minus Lynn Easton and virtually nothing from their back catalogue. Too slick and bar bandish.) , Larry and The Blue Notes (Technically very good , but ,no Garage classics , theirs or others .More Bar Banditis.), And Mitch Ryder , who's never failed , but you may not call him Garage. .
SOME OF THE BEST i'VE SEEN HAVE BEEN Richard and The Young Lions , ? and The Mysterians , Electric Prunes , New Colony Six , Third Bardo , Alarm Clocks , Standells , monks , Remains , Sky Saxon and The Seeds , Wailers , Box Tops (They came on like a Garage band !) , Mark Lindsay.
Good but not always great - Blues Magoos , Zakary Thaks , Kenny and The Kasuals (GREAT the first time ,but they don't do many 0f their originals ).
Not so hot - Gants , Beau Brummels , Bad Roads.
Terrible -Greenfuz.
British section - Pretty Things , Creation , Yardbirds, Downliners Sect , TROGGS !
hONORABLE MENTION , HARD ROCK- Blue Cheer , Iron Butterfly .