Wow, what a tired old argument/discussion... no disrespect to the OP, but this is really a breeding ground for silly arguments. My opinion? Punk is a style of music, the style doesn't change when notoriety and/or money enter the equation. You either play it or you don't.

Excellent examples! Too bad they couldn't make more $, but they stayed true to their roots...

Sean said:

The Cramps managed to pull it off. They sold out, admitted it, but still stayed the same kick ass band. Same with The Ramones. I think The Ramones are the best example of a Punk group becoming one of the most popular and well known Punk groups of all time, but were still a "Punk" group and never changed their ways or style. Their songs did manage to get a bit Poppy over the years, but it wasn't complete shit like how most bands end up. 

Iggy Pop is on cruiseline commercials & the Pogues are on a car commercial & i don't think it diminishes how punk they are.

The Cramps managed to pull it off. They sold out, admitted it, but still stayed the same kick ass band. Same with The Ramones. I think The Ramones are the best example of a Punk group becoming one of the most popular and well known Punk groups of all time, but were still a "Punk" group and never changed their ways or style. Their songs did manage to get a bit Poppy over the years, but it wasn't complete shit like how most bands end up. 

My opinion is that it depends on the group. I never really considered the White Stripes that punk, but the Jesus and Mary Chain's Psycho Candy still sounds ragin' to me all these years later. Any other opinions out there?

The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."

- Hunter S. Thompson 

(I stole this from the Sympathy site)

HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!

Dre' once asked some of the people in the audience what they paid to get in , they all said "8 Dollars , Andre"...But , he did'nt believe one woman , and , he finally said , "EIGHT DOLLARS? ASS LIKE THAT , YOU SHOULD HAVE GOT IN FREE !"

Another time , well , I don't think she'd mind , but I won't mention her name w/o her permission. Andre's ogling this , admittedly beautiful , woman , and he says , "There she is ! Sally Goodpussy !". The place goes silent , and , she replies , "YOU could'nt handle it , Andre !"".....
 
Mike said:

Once saw Andre Williams at the Viper Room here in Los Angeles. Lux & Ivy were in the audience and Andre acknowledging them as kindred spirits said "We may not be the same color, but we came from the same pussy"

 "This is real money , we want you to like us." -Fear 

 (I've got a couple of unusable singles , thought of giving 'em to a heckler....Or a cigarette that's already been somewhere else.... Only thought of it , tho'.)

My vote is Velocity of Sound. (started in 2011 I think) 

Alison said:

Great choices.  In The Red is awesome. Also, I can't wait for that new Sonic Avenues LP out next month on Dirtnap!

polianarchy said:

Three-way tie? Hahaha, guess I cheated! My picks for 2011 are Dirtnap, In The Red, and 1234...Go.

Great choices.  In The Red is awesome. Also, I can't wait for that new Sonic Avenues LP out next month on Dirtnap!

polianarchy said:

Three-way tie? Hahaha, guess I cheated! My picks for 2011 are Dirtnap, In The Red, and 1234...Go.

Three-way tie? Hahaha, guess I cheated! My picks for 2011 are Dirtnap, In The Red, and 1234...Go.

Aw, shucks. Thanks, Joey!

joey fuckup said:

My vote goes to GRGPNK Records, though. Kopper has done a helluva job putting together some great comps on here! So there ya go, that's my vote for "Best Label of 2011".

nice

joey fuckup said:

My vote goes to GRGPNK Records, though. Kopper has done a helluva job putting together some great comps on here! So there ya go, that's my vote for "Best Label of 2011".

My vote goes to GRGPNK Records, though. Kopper has done a helluva job putting together some great comps on here! So there ya go, that's my vote for "Best Label of 2011".

Wow, that's almost like asking someone to pick which of their children is their favorite! I'm not going to say who the BEST of 2011 is/was, but I can say Sundazed has/continues to put out killer vinyl of classic garage, rockabilly, surf, honky tonk, etc. Just what they put out this past year was enough to make my head spin.

For around five years, Chicago's HoZac records has continued to put out strong records by mostly new bands, and on vinyl!  HoZac put out a slew of great releases in 2011 such as The Peoples Temple, Mickey, Wax Idols, and the K-Holes. They also put on that awesome looking Blackout Festival that I missed out on. What is your record label MVP for 2011?

WAX IDOLS - GOLD SNEAKERS from Hayden Shiebler on Vimeo.

  I like DMZ  WAY more than The Lyres , but , that's just me.

 When Connolly was between versions of The Lyres , in the late 90's , he did a thing called "Man or Monoman" , where he'd play out with younger Garage bands in different towns , and do DMZ and Lyres songs. I saw him doing this , in Detroit , with The Hentchmen.

....If you've never been to Austin , you'll have to sell your soul to get a ride in a cab. Can't hail 'em on the street , and , by and large , they'll leave you hanging if you call in. You might want to consider renting a car , or even a bike. Granted , a lotof venues are relatively close together. Used to be ,you could do Austin on foot , for the most part , but , that was only if you were staying near the University.  Freddie Krc is bound to have something interesting up his sleeve.

I don't know if Roky is playing , but , he usually does. Look out for Bubble Puppy , too. They reformed recently , and sound great.

I know you're focusing on the garage department here, Steve, but Adam Sheets told me that Shooter Jennings will be doing a showcase down there with bands and musicians he's promoting right now. Billy Joe Shaver has signed on, that much I know.

Mod and Mod Psych : The Eyes , The Move  , The Birds , The Smoke , The Sorrows ....

Mod Revival : U.S. Mods , Civilized Age (Mod Psych) , Mod Fun ( All U.S.)

Secret Affair (UK).

I think of Mod as white, mostly British bands playing updated, higher-energy,  R&B/Motown/Soul-inspired rock...The Who is an obvious classic Mod band. The Jam is an obvious 'mod-revival' first-wave punk-era band. Others come to mind:

The Who
The Small Faces (early)
The Kinks (?)
The Action
The Creation 

The Jam
The Lambrettas
Purple Hearts

Others? Start listing 'em, folks...

What to say about the living legends, Little Richard and Chuck Berry:):):)!!!!

There are lots of bands still playing out with members in their 50s and up. The Fuzztones, D.O.A., The Cynics, The Fleshtones, The Chesterfield Kings... I'd bet all those guys are in their 50s. Nikki Corvette is still rockin', too. Take a look at the lineup for the recent Norton Records fest... The Real Kids (they ain't kids anymore!), the Great Gaylord, Andre Williams, The Sonics, ? and the Mysterians, Randy Fuller (Bobby's brother), Flamin Groovies, etc.

Hey Tim, were you going to submit a Marshmallow Overcoat song for our Hideout Comp Series? I don't have a record of you uploading one yet. Deadline for the next volume is Dec. 31!

Details: http://garagepunk.ning.com/page/hideout-comps

Yep, great shit!