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    • November 9, 2011 10:13 AM CST
    • What will happen to 'record' shops in the future? Sure indi folk are going to move back to vinyl and CDs will become weird retro things like cassettes but what about all the other stuff? And if they are going to get rid of CDs it's surely only a matter of a few years before DVDs and Blurays are out, I mean you can download movies just as you can music.

       

      Will there still be a place for mainstream record stores? Will CDs really completely go out? I mean we are looking at this from a pop music perspective although there is a genre of music where many of the fans don't do MP3s and also find vinyl inferior due to noise and that's the classical music fans.

    • November 8, 2011 8:37 PM CST
    • Blimey I just finished reading Appetite For Self-Destruction - 'The Spectacular Demise of the Recording Industry in the Digital Age' and this is another bomb shell!

    • November 8, 2011 5:29 PM CST
    • I'll form the rival church, Our Lady of Cassettes

      Old School Hero said:

      Who wants to start the Born Again Vinyl church with me?

    • November 8, 2011 4:44 PM CST
    • Who wants to start the Born Again Vinyl church with me?

    • November 8, 2011 3:55 PM CST
    • although, I still like burning CDs because they sound better in my car stereo than the mp3 player wired as a line-in. 

    • November 8, 2011 3:47 PM CST
    • Good riddance.

       

      My guess is that printed magazines are a lot closer to vinyl than CDs in terms of its ability to survive despite tech advances.  Just like some diehards will always want LPs and singles, some folks are always going to want actual printed pages.

    • November 8, 2011 3:01 PM CST
    • Wow, Steve Albini must be pissing his pants.

    • November 8, 2011 2:49 PM CST
    • IT'S ABOUT FRIGGIN' TIME!!!!!!!!

      From http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=46980_0_2_0_C

      You read it well. The major labels plan to abandon the CD format by the end of 2012 (or even earlier) and replace it with download/stream-only releases via iTunes and related music services. The only CD formats that will be left over will be the limited edition ones, which will of course not be available for every artist. The distribution model for these remaining CD releases would be primarily Amazon which is already the biggest CD retailer worldwide anyhow.

      3 weeks ago we heard it for the first time and since then we have tried getting some feedback from EMI, Universal and Sony. All declined to comment.

      The news doesn't come as a surprise to those who have been working in the business. In a piece that was published in a Q&A with the Alfa Matrix people back in June 2011 in the 1st issue of "Matrix Revelations", our chief editor Bernard Van Isacker said the following when asked if a CD would still exist in 5 years: "Yes, but in a different format. Normal CDs will no longer be available because they don't offer enough value, limited editions on the other hand will remain available and in demand for quite a few more years. I for one buy only limited editions because of the added value they offer: a nice design, extra bonus gadgets, etc. The album as we know it now however will be dead within 5 years, if it isn't even sooner. I predict that downloads will have replaced the CD album within the next 2 years. I don't see that as something negative, it just has run its course, let's leave the space to limited editions (including vinyl runs for bigger acts) and downloads instead."

      It's a move that makes completely sense. CD's cost money, even when they don't sell because there is stock storage to be paid; a label also pays money to distributors when CDs get returned to the labels when not sold and so on. In short, abandoning the CD-format will make it possible to just focus on the release and the marketing of it and no longer focus on the distribution (since aggregators will do the work as far as dispatching the releases to services worldwide) and - expensive - stock maintenance. In the long run it will most surely mean the end for many music shops worldwide that only stock and sell CD releases. In the UK for instance HMV has problems paying the labels already and more will follow. It makes the distribution of CDs no longer worth it.

      Also Amazon will benefit from this as it will surely become the one and only player when it comes to distribution of the remaining CD productions from labels. Packaged next to regular album downloads via its own Amazon MP3 service it will offer a complimentary service.

      The next monument to fall? That will be printed magazines as people will want to consume their information online where they also read most of the news.

      What are your feelings? is it a move that you like or not?

      Update: We were approached by several people working with major labels, who indeed re-confirm that plans do exist to give up the CD. We keep on trying to get an official confirmation, but it seems that the matter is very controversial, especially after Side-Line brought out the story.

    • November 9, 2011 10:12 AM CST
    • I also heard the Creation "making time" in a beer commerical Monday night.  I think it was Miller Lite

    • November 9, 2011 8:26 AM CST
    • Check out THE DEMONICS-that is great stuff!!!!!They have lots of biker AND surfer feeling and attitude(mid 90s).If you like it harder-the first Cicus of Power-released `88-it`s true cult for bikers.

    • November 8, 2011 7:31 PM CST
    • Here's "Cycle Sounds" by the Angry Breed:

    • November 8, 2011 7:20 PM CST
    • This band, the Angry Breed, are here on the Hideout, and they're into the biker image as well:

    • November 8, 2011 7:05 PM CST
    • Yeah, I'd say they definately go all out for the biker image:

    • November 8, 2011 7:02 PM CST
    • Shit, I know I'll think of more in due time, but this is the first one that springs to my mind... The Crestones - She's a Bad Motorcyle

    • November 8, 2011 6:49 PM CST
    • The Lords Of Altamont definately:

    • November 8, 2011 3:22 PM CST
    • I'd like to compile a list of artists who have songs w/ references to biker culture (bandanas, tattoos, cheap motels, gangs, Jim Beam - the whole 9 yards), lyrics and attitude. Not only late 60's/early 70's stuff but extra points will be given to anyone who can point out any current artists doing this sorta thing, too. i only know Simon Stokes' first couple albums which are really amazing. Oh yeah, and of course Davie Allan & The Arrows. Who else?

    • November 9, 2011 4:17 AM CST
    • I've got a white phantom with white pickguard from those guys and it's wicked. Definitely recommended.

    • November 8, 2011 11:45 PM CST
    • you should go to the brandoni factory man as you live in england they might have those Nos phantoms for cheep  http://brandoniguitars.co.uk/contact.asp  and while your there ask if they will ship parts to australia, i want to build a vox delta :)

      dying slowly said:

      the only burns ive seen our out of my range witch cant go above 800 or so and ill be saving for ages then, i would love of one of the new old stock phantoms i saw one i wanted so much recently white with white pickguard 6-string and trem!

      (ps i dont like strats i find them clicheyd andi dont like the bridges and ijust prefer the tele twang)

    • November 8, 2011 3:45 PM CST
    • the only burns ive seen our out of my range witch cant go above 800 or so and ill be saving for ages then, i would love of one of the new old stock phantoms i saw one i wanted so much recently white with white pickguard 6-string and trem!

      (ps i dont like strats i find them clicheyd andi dont like the bridges and ijust prefer the tele twang)

    • November 8, 2011 7:12 PM CST
    • Mina , One Rabbit Bands are musicians who are'nt men or women , but, rabbits.

      NoBunny , being the best known , is actually a Jackalope (Part Rabbit , Part Antelope.).

      Drum Chicken is a Rabbit (Who thinks he's a chicken.) that plays the drums .  

      Mina said:

      Yeah Margaret Doll Rod is cool. I almost had her perform in my town, but then the touring schedule changed or something. Too bad. 

       

      WTF are one rabbit bands? :D

    • November 8, 2011 6:17 PM CST
    • So true. I remember seeing Arsenio Hall interview Little Richard on TV , AND HE ASKED HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT OF 2LIVE CREW'S (Then - Recent) CONTROVERSY. To his credit , Richard did'nt seem very familiarwith the issue , but said  "Don't take your freedoms lightly. You have freedom of speech. If you want to listen to RAP , or if you want to watch PORR - NOG - RO - PHEE . That's your right ! and God gave you that right ! I may not LIKE it , but , I ain't got to BUY it !!!!".       oooh , mysoul ! my ! my ! my!

      Mole said:

      I guess if 'free speech' is truly free [yeah right!!], then you can't advocate censorship, however distasteful the material may be. Personally I'm not in favour of anything that actively promotes prejudice, but like, I just won't buy it or listen to it. Isn't that the point, that we have a CHOICE? Censorship is someone else's choice, not mine.

    • November 8, 2011 5:20 PM CST
    • You're kidding yourself if you think cheap 60's stuff was great. I've got a Futurama Sophomore and a Vox Clubman - they're both wall hangers, not gigable guitars.

       

      That Silvertone amp would be about $800 now allowing for inflation. Not really cheap.

    • November 8, 2011 2:51 PM CST
    • Hey! That's pretty good.

      hicksville hogwash said:

      Scientific evidence shows The Sonics version removes more earwax but The Kingsmen erodes more floor wax.  

      I gotta say Richard Berry's original will make me shed a tear or two.