John Battles said:

btw , HONEST , I did delete the two extra messages. Sorry.  

Billy said , in Ugly Things , The Velvets ' influence on Cold Sun was not as strong as that of The Elevators , but, it was there.

Chris Stigliano wrote a good article about the influence of The Velvets on artists you would'nt have imagined , The Cars , e.g. , if only by virtue of being from Boston , where The Velvets were still gigging before and after they were regarded as nobodies , and people like Jonathan Richman drew from that.(PS , I was just told , recently ,  That John Felice was "Hippie Johnny" . Don't know if that's so , or why , perhaps because of head butting within the original Modern Lovers , and that was Jonathan's revenge ?).

 

 But , I've always read Boston was the first city to really embrace VU. Tho' everytime they played Chicago , on some mismatched bill , about 100 people with shades and all - black gear would rush the stage when they came on , then leave before the next band. Of course , they played in Texas , and Roky became a big fan , tho' it's unclear whether he actually saw the band or not. He was probably at Rusk by the time they first played Houston or Austin (Didthey play Austin?) .

 

The earliest Velvets ' cover I could think of was The Yardbirds' "I'm Waiting For The Man" , which they may have only performed once (?) in LA in '68 . Stigliano told me there was a band from Holland who released a Pop version of Run , Run , Run and , maybe "There She Goes Again" (?) shortly after the first Velvets ' LP was released.  Of course , going back to Bosstown , Willie "Loco " Alexander played in a much later version of The Velvets , minus Lou. The funniest story involving Lou Reed did'nt really involve him at all. You probably read about how David Bowie talked for 20 minutes , backstage , with Lou , only to learn it was really Doug Yule , as Reed had quit the band , telling Yule "You take it. Take all of it. ". Apparently , a lot of people thought Doug WAS Lou at the time ! HA HA HA HA HA.

I heard that version of "Run, Run, Run" on Intoxica Radio, which was quite a fun cover version, but I thought it was by a German band.

btw , HONEST , I did delete the two extra messages. Sorry.  

Billy said , in Ugly Things , The Velvets ' influence on Cold Sun was not as strong as that of The Elevators , but, it was there.

Chris Stigliano wrote a good article about the influence of The Velvets on artists you would'nt have imagined , The Cars , e.g. , if only by virtue of being from Boston , where The Velvets were still gigging before and after they were regarded as nobodies , and people like Jonathan Richman drew from that.(PS , I was just told , recently ,  That John Felice was "Hippie Johnny" . Don't know if that's so , or why , perhaps because of head butting within the original Modern Lovers , and that was Jonathan's revenge ?).

 

 But , I've always read Boston was the first city to really embrace VU. Tho' everytime they played Chicago , on some mismatched bill , about 100 people with shades and all - black gear would rush the stage when they came on , then leave before the next band. Of course , they played in Texas , and Roky became a big fan , tho' it's unclear whether he actually saw the band or not. He was probably at Rusk by the time they first played Houston or Austin (Didthey play Austin?) .

 

The earliest Velvets ' cover I could think of was The Yardbirds' "I'm Waiting For The Man" , which they may have only performed once (?) in LA in '68 . Stigliano told me there was a band from Holland who released a Pop version of Run , Run , Run and , maybe "There She Goes Again" (?) shortly after the first Velvets ' LP was released.  Of course , going back to Bosstown , Willie "Loco " Alexander played in a much later version of The Velvets , minus Lou. The funniest story involving Lou Reed did'nt really involve him at all. You probably read about how David Bowie talked for 20 minutes , backstage , with Lou , only to learn it was really Doug Yule , as Reed had quit the band , telling Yule "You take it. Take all of it. ". Apparently , a lot of people thought Doug WAS Lou at the time ! HA HA HA HA HA.

Billy's nuts, I love him. He is doing some new stuff with Cold Sun. And I know he's done some stuff with P. St. John (some of which is on that Soundcloud page) but I'm not sure how recent that is. Hopefully he'll come to town next month when Turner debuts his Satan's bride video

btw , I did delete the two extra messages, It may take a while for them to go away ?

I READ , IN UGLY THINGS , THAT MILLER HAD REFORMED COLD SUN , AND EVEN THE ALIENS , WITH POWELL ST. JOHN , BUT , THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HIS CURRENT ACTIVITIES , OTHERWISE. I'LL HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK AT THIS.

I DID'NT REALLY KNOW WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE , NOW , BUT HE STILL LOOKS LIKE HE BELONGS TO ROKY'S TRIBE OF ALIENS.

I READ , IN UGLY THINGS , THAT MILLER HAD REFORMED COLD SUN , AND EVEN THE ALIENS , WITH POWELL ST. JOHN , BUT , THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HIS CURRENT ACTIVITIES , OTHERWISE. I'LL HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK AT THIS.

I DID'NT REALLY KNOW WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE , NOW , BUT HE STILL LOOKS LIKE HE BELONGS TO ROKY'S TRIBE OF ALIENS.

I READ , IN UGLY THINGS , THAT MILLER HAD REFORMED COLD SUN , AND EVEN THE ALIENS , WITH POWELL ST. JOHN , BUT , THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 3 OR 4 YEARS AGO, NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT HIS CURRENT ACTIVITIES , OTHERWISE. I'LL HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK AT THIS.

I DID'NT REALLY KNOW WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE , NOW , BUT HE STILL LOOKS LIKE HE BELONGS TO ROKY'S TRIBE OF ALIENS.

SWT, thanks for the song, thats VERY Lou especially the screeching autoharp, very cool!

Billy's great. He comes to Santa Fe ever so often to do gigs with Turner. He posts a lot of interesting stuff on Soundcloud https://soundcloud.com/bb555m512

 

 

if my retraction does'nt show up , here , it's definnitely a movie set , and not CBGB in this scene. You can see David Johansen body - surfing.

BTW , Tyler , do you know what the second and last - ever movie (Barring documentaries) The Ramones EVER appeared in was ?

 

"Car 54 , Where Are You?". I refused to see the movie when it came out , because I love the TV show too much. Besides , it came and went in a day or two , or so it it seems. But , when it came on TV , I watched it out of morbid curiosity. Fortunately , I taped it. Any movie with David Johansen , Fran Drescher and original cast members , Al Lewis and Nipsey Russell , can't be ALL bad. Imagine my surprise , seeing The Ramones , playing at what appeared to be the real CBGBs (A good 15 years after the bands' last real gig, there.). I guess that's still a pretty well - kept secret , tho' I remember Joey and Marky talking about promoting it in Times Square , I don't remember them mentioning they were IN it.

That's actually pretty funny , tho' horribly wrong , about "I Don't Wanna Be Learned ,I Don't Wanna Be Tamed" being written into the script as being ONE song.  The idea that Kristal would have even said The Ramones were going places in 1974 , when , he no doubt had a LOT of reservations , the most famous quote about their first gig being his , "No one's gonna like you guys , but , I'll have you back.".

Tyler said:

crap...i accidentally quoted my reply....where's the editing button? It dissapeared. ah well

One of the benefits of being a Premium member is having that "edit" button. ;)

 

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crap...i accidentally quoted my reply....where's the editing button? It dissapeared. ah well

John Battles said:
  I know what you mean about coming up with laundry lists of historical innacuracies , tho' Spike Lee beat these guys to the punch with "Summer of Sam", CBGBs Punk rockers with giant mohawks , liberty spikes , and green hair , in 1977 ! I asked my Sister - in - Law , who went to CB's , Max's , etc. , as early as 1976 , if she EVER saw a mohawk in New York in '77. She said MAYBE RICHIE STOTTS WAS WORKING ON HIS VERY FIRST ONE , BUT , IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FLAT , TRAVIS BICKEL NUMBER. That's so weird about using Joey's solo material. I'd have rather just heard a band trying to approximate The Ramones sound , if they could'nt get the rights to their back catalogue , even though I like Joey's posthumous solo albums.

 

 

Yeah, it was just too much. I can understand changing certain thing to make a story more appealing or something...but the a lot of inaccuracies seemed to come down to just laziness. Like when Joey said "we have 4 new songs", but only named 3....you think SOMEBODY on set would've pointed out that "I don't wanna be learned/I don't wanna be tamed" is actually only one song. haha!

 

I agree with the idea of a band just imitating the ramones sound....it would've made a lot more sense to just get a track of someone hitting a 3 barre chord riff over a 8th note 4/4 beat. Somehow the idea of a 1974 Ramones playing "I got Knocked Down but I'll get Up" (with hilly looking on with a "these kids are goin places" expression on his face)  was just brutal to watch.

 

 

Radio What Wave Playlist Nov 7 2013

1. Almighty Rhombus....She Didn't Want Me....from a demo they sent us sometime ago. They are playing at The APK in London Ontario tonite.

 

2. Forgotten Rebels....I Think Of Her...recorded live at the Cedar Lounge, 1980 and from the OPM CD. Forgotten Rebels play saturday night at Call The Office.

 

 

The Forgotten Rebels, summer 1981. Chris Houston on far RHS

 

 

3. Forgotten Rebels...Hello Hello...from This Ain't Hollywood LP on Star Records.

 

4. Forgotten Rebels...You're A Rebel...from In Love With The System LP on Star Records.

 

5. Chris Houston....Einsteins Brain's In Hamilton...from a 7" on Schizophrenic Records. Chris was in The Forgotten Rebels in the late 70's/early 80's. He's matured a little bit since.

 

6. Arson...Social Eyes...from the Not Always About You CD. :Late 70's Toronto combo (they played The Cedar Lounge here in London Sept 78 and they were the first out of London punk band i ever saw) who have reformed to play and have fun. Current drummer is David Quinton Steinberg, lawyer to the musical stars.

 

7. Cowlicks...I Wanna Be Your Man....from a CFMU (Hamilton's college radio station) download of all local combos! Obviously Hamilton has some cool combos that i wasn't aware of. And they have some really cool combos i am aware of; The Noble Savages, The Evil Eyes, The Squids and many more who aren't represented on this download.

 

8. Monarch Project...A Better Part Of You...from the above CFMU download.

 

9. Young Rival...Black Is Good...from the above CFMU download. Caught this trio live a few times and they put on a pretty good show. Formerly known as Ride Theory where they did the full on garagerock thing. Now they have a poppy Kinks inspired edge to their sound.

 

10. The Mogs...Smile....mid 90's demo. They are reincarnated and will be playing at Doors Pub in Hamilton tonite.

 

11. The Mogs...Vancouver...as above.

 

12. Trade Secrets...Of A Feather...Montreal combo who are playing with The Mogs tonite.

 

13. The Reply...The Reply...from their Downtown Soul EP and they are headlining the Mogs show tonite in Hamilton.

 

 

The Reply, Brennan's Nov 5 2011

 

 

14. The Seeds...You Can't Be Trusted...from the re-issue of their first LP.

 

15. The Higher State...Why Don't You Prove It...from their latest CD, which for some reason is self titled, and it's at least their 5th CD/LP. On 13 O'Clock Records from Texas, yet the band is UK based.

 

16. Mere Humans...I Confess....brand new demo from this Ottawa combo, with 2 former members of The Evil Farm Children.

 

17. Los Chicos Problema....Secuestrado En Otro Planeta...from their debut CD, Estremecete y Rueda!  2 piece garage combo from Mexico...

 

18. Dustbin Flowers...Start Out With Nothing....local combo with a 3 song demo. They play out live fairly often, yet i still haven't managed to catch them.

 

19. Bitchlove...Picket Fences...from the soon to be released EP, Stigma. More local noise!

 

20. The Flamin' Groovies...Slow Death....from the Slow Death LP on Norton....1971 demo. All of The Flamin' Groovies tunes being played on this show, were done live last night at Lee's Palace by The Flamin' Groovies. First time in Toronto in 31 years!!!

 

21. The Flamin' Groovies...Paint It Black...from a radio only 12" EP.

 

22. The Flamin' Groovies...Shake Some Action....as above.

 

23. The Flamin' Groovies...Teenage Head...from the LP of the same name.

 

24. The Flamin' Groovies...I Can't Hide...from the Shake Some Action LP and faded out as we ran out of time, but certainly not songs, memories and thoughts about The Flamin' Groovies.

 

 

Thanx for all the phone-ins, emails, facebook messages and Heys!!! Much appreciated!! Back again next week with more stuff! Still on a high from seeing The Flamin' Groovies on Wednesday eve!! Brought my youngest daughter and got her picture taken w/Cyril!!!  Proud Dad!!!!

 

All pics from the WW Archives

 

 

Here's a link to the podcast for this show:

http://chrwradio.ca/content/radio-what-wave

Reposting from the Dangerous Minds blog:

 

FEMALE SURF BAND LA LUZ IN TERRIBLE COLLISION WITH SEMI

Caught The Flamin' Groovies last night in Toronto......Smiling faces abound as The Groovies played the hits (or what should have been) to a packed and enthusiastic crowd! All my faves....Paint It Black, Feel A Whole Lot Better, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Please Please Me, Yeah My Baby, Slow Death, Shake Some Action (to paraphrase Chris Wilson...if you don't know this song, you shouldn't be here!) and Teenage Head as the well deserved encore! Chris and Cyril did lots of timely joking (Toronto mayor Rob Ford references) with the crowd and had us in the palm of their hands the moment they walked on stage!! A totally run eve of real rock'n'roll!!!

Let't hope they don't wait another 30 years before coming back!

Quoted from Crypt records site:

 

"Yasss.... the LONG-LOST May 1994 Egg Studios     (Seattle) Crypt album sessions - all hopped-up,     remixed etc - FINALLY available after disappearing for 19 years! LP is 17     originals in a GATEFOLD     beaut w/liners by New Bomb Turk/”We Never Learn” Eric Davidson,     CD is those 17 plus 5 covers     (see BELOW 7” EP “5 Covers EP” for additional VINYL action)     Gatefold LP / CD"

 

 

http://www.cryptrecords.com/

 

 

 

....it's already out in Europe. Distros in North America will get it in December apparently.  EXCITED BEYOND BELIEF

A bit of random trivia: did you know that the movie "Top Gun", was loosely based on the experiences of Deniz Tek as a jet pilot?  His callname, Iceman, also inspired some of the nicknames of the characters in the movie. 

 

http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2013/05/15/deniz-tek-rocker-doctor-fighter-pilot-and-now-a-nomad/

 

Tek is truly an interesting and debonaire rock & roller. I've had the pleasure of hanging out with him many times; he often visits the Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti area where I live due to his history and friends and makes time to perform "homecoming" rock shows. He enjoys telling stories of his childhood spent riding his bike around town, etc. It is pretty cool, because when he visits, all the Detroit/Ann Arbor/etc. local legends come out of the woodwork and hang and catch the shows.

I did'nt see the picture oF DENIZ , EARLIER , THAT YOU PUT UP. That's great !

i WAS WORKING ON A LIST OF  Airborne Rockers , for Roctober magazine.

 

1) Deniz Tek. (USAF).

2) JOHNNY CASH (USAF)

3) Mark Griffin - MC 900 FT. JESUS , LITHIUM XMAS , TELEFONES  ( Commercial pilot. His career got cut short when low flying planes were prohibited after 9/11.).

4) The guy in Iron Maiden.

5) Wilko Johnson (For trying to fly a plane with no previous Pilot training.).

 

Just read on the ol' twittershere that Thee Spivs have decided to call it a day.

Sad news indeed. They were fantastic!

Love their previous gritty garage records, was a bit non-plussed by the techno outing, but for me this is their best so far! Totally love the sweet summertime drenched pop harmonies.

I'm extremely late in replying to this , but , I did'nt know about it , I did'nt see anything about it , previously.  I knew Matt , in passing. A very funny guy , he was always nice to me , even though he did hit me in the head with his guitar . It was an accident. The Candy Snatchers were playing a show with The 5-6-7-8's. Some kid knocked over their mike stand. The reason this was an issue was , I found out later , the club  had told them if they damaged their mikes or mike stands , they'd pay for them. But , the little fucker tried to hide behind me . Matt swung his guitar at him , missed , and grazed my forehead. Fortunately , I was more shocked than actually badly hurt. I was more angry with the kid than with Matt , and I tried to chase him , but , he got away. And , I was more angry with HIM because he just let me "Take a bullet" for him , so to speak.   After their set , Matt did come over and apologize to me , saying he did'nt see that I was standing right in front of the little shit , and told me why he swung his guitar like that , missing him , getting me , by mistake.  He said he was angry because he did'nt want to pay for a damaged mike or stand . "I LOVE YA , JOHN !" , he said , "YOU OLD BLACK HOMOSEXUAL !".          Please bear in mind , that just came out of nowhere. By that time , though , The Candy Snatchers were leting their "Alice Cooper Theatrics on a GG Allin Budget" take precedence over their music. I saw them , earlier , third on the bill to The Meteors and local "Psychobilly" band , Wreckin' Ball , who were great when they started , but , sucked by this time , and had a much bigger following in Chicago than even The Meteors to show for it. There were only about 12 people in the room when they went on , so , they focused on putting on a great , tight , Punk Rock show , instead , keeping those 12 people in the room .  No setting the bass on fire , no throwing up , no blood. Just Rock'n'Roll .  I know I spoke to Matt , who I met at the show , once or twice on the phone before the other gig , a year or so later.       Sorry to hear about you , Matt    : (

I saw The Priests , once. They reminded me a lot of The Cynics , but that's kind of unavoidable , I guess.