I'M - A SCARED , BUT , i SUPPOSE i should have a listen.......I LIKED JOEY AND HOLLY BETH VINCENT'S TAKE ON " I GOT YOU , BABE" , THO , IN HINDSIGHT , I'D HAVE LIKED TO HAVE HEARD THEM RECORD SOME ORIGINAL TUNES , TOO.  AT THE PONDEROSA STOMP , THE SLOTHS ACTUALLY PLAYED A SONG THAT HOLLY WROTE FOR JOEY , AND TRIED TO GET HIM TO DO , BUT , HE DIED BEFORE HE COULD RECORD IT.

 

You must have seen the Teengenerate footage that's going around , from The Fireside Bowl in Chicago. I was at that show , and another one the same evening , and , they were great , but , I never liked their records too much. I think they would've sounded better  if they had a half - decent production , I DON'T MEAN LIKE SLICK 80'S POP Production , but not so intentionally bad. The Lo - Fi thing was already on it's way out. But , that's just me , "Unpopular Opinions". I felt the same way about Black Flag , and I do , now , about Jim Jones Revue. A great band .....IF everything were'nt in the red.

If the extreme volume and bad production worked , I'd be all over it. But , even Blue Cheer did'nt fall back on THAT much excess when they started touring again . That said , while I did like Teengenerate , most of the other Crypt stuff that was not BFTG , or other , related reissues , barring The Devil Dogs , I TRIED TO DIG , BUT , COULD'NT......Tim seemed to be down on modern Garage bands , like there were NONE to suit his taste , anymore. There must have been a few.   He did catch up with The Gories , when they had one foot out the door.

Teengenerate! Crypt finally released their 1994 Egg Studio session. Can't wait until it comes in. After Ramones, Teengenerate were a life changing discovery.

Helen Love is Electro Indie Pop from Wales. Joey Ramone was a big fan. He even dueted with her on an earlier release in the 90's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZVBmGFt76o

THE RAMONES DEF. INFLUENCED THE JAMC , BEFORE THEY WENT SOFT. I STILL LIKE THEM , BUT SOME OF THEIR EARLY STUFF WAS PAINFUL ! I NEVER THOUGHT THEY'D MAKE IT IN THE US, BUT , I ALSO THOUGHT DWIGHT YOAKUM WAS TOO COUNTRY TO GET INTO THE COUNTRY CHARTS.

HELEN LOVE , I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.....OH , GOD. WHO DID'NT THE RAMONES INSPIRE? ANTISEEN , FIFI AND THE MACH III , VAGINISMUS , JEFF DAHL ,  DICKIES , TEENGENERATE , X ,  LISA DOLL , NERVEBREAKERS, NIKKI AND THE CORVETTES , RAMONETURES , ABBA ABBA HEY , AND , WELL , SO MANY OTHERS. THO' JOHNNY RAMONE VEHEMENTLY DENIED BEING INFLUENCED BY TEH VELVETS , OR EVEN KNEW WHO THEY WERE UNTIL AFTER THE RAMONES FORMED , THE RAMONES INFLUENCED SOME UNLIKELY BANDS , AS DID THE VELVETS.

Tyler said:

A sea of copycat bands!

Some are actually really good though. The Riverdales were always pretty consistent,

HEAD were really good too.

 

In terms of indie....I can hear Ramones in the Jesus and Mary Chain

So do I, especially their early stuff.

A sea of copycat bands!

Some are actually really good though. The Riverdales were always pretty consistent,

HEAD were really good too.

 

In terms of indie....I can hear Ramones in the Jesus and Mary Chain

IF YOU ASKED THE GORIES , THEY MIGHT SAY "BUT WE WERE'NT TRYING TO BE MODERN OR RELEVANT ! ". Just sayin'.

...then not too long after that I heard I Know You Be Houserockin' by The Gories. That blew my mind even more. So you can play this music today and still make it modern and relevant?!!!

...then not too long after that I heard I Know You Be Houserockin' by The Gories. That blew my mind even more. So you can play this music today and still make it modern and relevant?!!!

Definitely Here Are The Sonics. I clearly remember hearing Strychnine at my friends house. Changed my life. 

Lower Broadway Lo-Fi by Th' Legendary Shack Shakers mixed my love for punk and country. Went on to get into a million grungy bluegrass and rockabilly acts. Then came the Sonics, the King Khan and BBQ Show... and here I thought music was dead. Still finding stuff old and new that keeps me going!

I thought i was the only one that didn't likeTurbonegro.......everyone says i should like them, but nope, doesn't do anything for me.

 

John....I've seen The Lyres many times over the years, but never DMZ. If like you, i saw DMZ first, i probably would be thinking the same thing as you, as DMZ were a huge kick to the balls for me when i first heard their records!! They blew away so many bands from their era and still stand above to this day!!

Tyler , Oh , no , I did'nt get the impression that you did'nt like The Bay City Rollers , or thought of them as a "Boy Band" ,as you well put it , just because they made it up on a lot of young girl's walls.....And The Ramones.....they were FICTIONALLY idolized by teenage girls.   Well , in more recent years ,two of my friend's Daughters loved The RAMONES, and

 idolized Riff Randall when they were little.  Seek out the EARLY version of "Saturday Night" , which was a hit in Germany , if you don't have it , already. It sounds like a real Boot Boy stomp !    IT WAS RECORDED LIKE IN '73 , MAYBE TWO OF THE GUYS STAYED IN THE ROLLERS AND BECAME STARS....

 

I don't give it much thought . TURBONEGRO NEVER DID ANYTHING FOR ME. But , some of my friends are ga - ga for them. When I was pacing the floor , waiting for the next Dictators reunion (Dictators NYC IS The Dictators , from where I stand.), my friends were raving about the Turbonegro reunion.

IT DON'T MEAN ME NO NEVER MIND.

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JOHN: I absolutely agree with everything you wrote. Greatest band ever.

 

  I should point out that when I said "boy band" (regarding the bay city rollers), I didn't mean it in the non-instrument playing vocal group sense of the word. I just meant boy band in the "teen-heartthrob/On every girls bedroom wall" sense. I love the Bay the City Rollers.

Regarding Turbonegro...it always bothered me that I didn't like them, because I feel like I should.  People always assume that I like them because I love the Dictators and the Devil Dogs. But Turbonegro just comes off like Cheese metal to me.

 

YOU SAID IT. Dee Dee said that he really thought The Bay City Rollers were their competition , or the yardstick by which they should judge themselves. The Bay City Rollers were'nt a Boy Band , tho' , just because they were teen and pre-teen idols. They played ROCK'N'ROLL on real instruments , no computer - assisted backing. Their early stuff was just an extension of Glam Rock , and they were regarded as contempoparies to that stuff , even tho' , yes , they had more of a "Pop" edge. It's like this - "Ballroom Blitz" + "Saturday Night" = "Blitzkrieg Bop".

Anyway , Nick Lowe would'nt have recorded two , count 'em two , songs about N'Sync or Backstreet Boys .

 

The Ramones really felt gyped , in that they did'nt become huge. But they wanted to make it , you're right , Tyler , on their own terms. Sure , people like The Bay City Rollers made it by listening to someone else. But , how did you corral a force like The Ramones ? They were "Punk" in that they were unmanageable. They inadvertently kick - started the UK Punk movement , and , of course , showed a lot of their countrymen that it CAN be done . Or could be , back when it did'nt cost a fortune to tour , and venues actually promoted shows.

 

OK , so The Ramones were naive. They admitted that , to some degree. That's the beauty part of it. We'd seen enough boring bands that planned every move they made , and came out ahead , when their best could'nt beat The Ramones' worst.

 

Turbonegro , agreed. I don't get it. But , I don't have to. More good stuff for me.

Nice Playlist!!!

This week's program featured music from The White Stripes De Stijl album as well as music from Billy Childish's The Milkshakes, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, The Munks, Teenanger, Light Bulb Alley and more. 

 

The Play List:

 

1.  The Fruit Tones – Chicken Lollipop

2.  The Chants R&B – I’m Your Witchdoctor

3.  The Milkshakes – Let’s Stomp

4.  Stegasaurus – Eleven Forty Eight

5.  The Sundells – Fight For My Time

6.  Teenanger – Very Ape

7.  Gringo Star – Want Some Fun

8.  Cults – I Can Hardly Make You Mine

9.  Harlan Pepper - Secret Spy Decoder Ring

10. Animal Parts – Big Bird

11. Beverley’s All Stars – Smoke Screen

12. Jimmy Cliff – You Can Get It If You Really Want

13. The Munks – Marie Please Come Back to Me

14. The Scenics – Wild Trout 15. Actual Water – Fire On George St.

16. Light Bulb Alley – Jemon Jaws

17. Avengers – I Told You So

18. Jon Spencer Blue Explosion – 78 Style

19. Pell Mell – Spy Vs. Spy

20. The Traditional Fools – Party At My House

21. The White Stripes – Hello Operator

22. The White Stripes – Apple Blossom

23. The White Stripes - I'm Bound To Pack It Up

24. The White Stripes – Jumble, Jumble

 

Download/listen to the podcast here:  http://cjamlog1.cjam.ca/mp3dirnew/36-Revolution_Rock-20131203-1030-t1386066600.mp3

 

Check out my blog post on De Stijl here:  http://revrock.blogspot.ca/2013/12/the-white-stripes-de-stijl-show-484.html

Radio What Wave Playlist Dec 5 2013; Graphic Underground: London 1977-1990 Show

 

On this week’s broadcast, we did a special on the Graphic Underground: London 1977-1990 show as we had the curator of the museum exhibit, and author of the book, Brian Lambert on air as special guest.

Graphic Underground: London 1977-1990 was a McIntosh Gallery exhibit (curated by Brian Lambert) housed at the Forest City Gallery here in London from Oct to Dec 2012. The exhibit was the posters, zines and ephemera that was created here in London between 1977 and 1990, that accompanied the music scene happening here concurrently. Hundreds of posters, zines and other assorted artwork were dusted off and dug out of who knows where to be on display at the Forest City Gallery. Attendance records were set during the 6 week run of the exhibit.

 

 

Opening night at Forest City Gallery

 

 

Accompanying the exhibit is a museum type book, with the same name as the art show. The book is set to be released this weekend at APK, between the hours of 2 and 7PM  as the author will be doing a book signing.. Well over 200 pages, this book is literally packed with hundreds of pictures of posters, zines and vintage pictures of some of the people involved in the scene.

 

And this edition of Radio WW is only music recorded in London between 1977 and 1990 with almost all of it being unreleased and never before broadcast on the radio or elsewhere.

 

1. The Demics….New York City…recorded live in Toronto approx 1980. This is the song and the band that have put sleepy London Ontario on the map.

 

2. The Demics….Oh Well…as above as NYC segued right into Oh Well.

 

3. Uranus….5 Bucks….played live over the airwaves of CFNY in Toronto May 1980. Uranus are the starting point for punk/new wave bands in London as they were the first band to play at the Blue Boot (later called The Cedar Lounge, the only exclusive punk/new wave club in London and lasted from mid 1978 to May 1982) and opened the doors for others to play as it was proven that real rock’n’roll bands and their fans drink lots of beer, which make bar owners happy.

 

4. Ralph Alfonso did a shout out here. Ralph was the doorman (and behind the scenes guy) at the first punk/new wave club in Canada, The Crash And Burn Club in Toronto Ontario. Ralph was/is the manager of The Diodes and along with Mike Neiderman, brought The Diodes to London for the very first punk/new wave show here, back in March 1977. Mike was the very first person to poster (and was subsequently fined by the police) for an event here in London as he was a printer and knew how to make a poster. He ended up printing many of the early posters used in London as well as most of the zines that came out of London. He also hosted The Demics first ever show at his loft and we consider him the grandfather of punk rock here in London Ontario.
4.  

          Ralph Alfonso, Mike Neiderman and Liz Worth (author of Treat Me Like Dirt) in London 2/14/10

5. Nihilst Spasm Band….This is A Test. And it was a test when Nihilst Spasm Band played as they built their own instruments and played free form experimental music long before it became trendy. Starting in the early 60’s, NSB had a weekly residence at the York Hotel (later named Call The Office) and the band consisted of a group of artists, some of which are famous Canada wide. They are listed as influences to many of the noise bands from around the world, including Sonic Youth as a couple of members have worked with the band. And NSB are big in Japan too!!  The children of NSB started to form their own art damaged bands in the late 70’s/early 80’s and some continue to this day.

 

6. NFG…Bloodstains On The Carpet….recorded live somewhere in London, late 70’s. Non Functioning Gear, Not For Girls or more likely No Fucking Good (and here to prove it) as Keith Whittaker of The Demics would introduce this bunch of long haired cowboys. More aggression than finesse, the guitar player for this combo would write some hook laden songs that would follow the band as they became 63 Monroe in later years.

 

7. Regulators….Sherry Share It…..recorded live at The Cedar Lounge in 1979. If Lou Reed had kids, this would be their band as the Velvet Underground and solo Reed sound emanate freely.

 

8. The Stoves…So You Say….recorded live at The Cedar Lounge 1979. This band was miles ahead of the competition here in town, as they combined 3 part harmony into high energy songs. Covers of Hollies and Searchers tunes set the standard of finely crafted tunes.

 

9. The Zellots….Sheik…1981 demo. They were one of the first to start a band in London, moved to Vancouver and reformed, then moved back to London with a new singer. This is the band that coulda and shoulda but luck wasn’t on their side. Full story is in Mongrel Zine 10 and 11.

 

The Zellots playing at a street festival, summer 1980

10. Radio 4….Is God A Man…demo that I thought was recorded by Chris Richards (Generics) but Chris corrected me as it was a Peter Moore Silent Head Recording. Peter Moore (lived in London a short time while studying MIA at Fanshawe College and has since gone on to work for the big names) would bring a white Styrofoam head with wires coming out of the ears to gigs. It was easy to pick out the head sitting on a table in a crowded bar. Many recording were done by Peter Moore this way and culminated in the first London compilation, Domestic Animals. And back to Radio 4, they were often lumped into the Joy Division clone ranks but there was a lot more intensity and musicianship in this band that later became Sheep Look Up.

 

11. Generics….Depresssion…1983 ghetto blaster demo. These kids came on the scene with a smart mouth attitude and proved themselves on their only record which is now on collectors lists worldwide.

 

12. 63 Monroe…Completely Sweet…recorded live at The Cedar Lounge and aired on CHRW in 1980. I taped this from the radio (and many others, some cassettes still survive) and I remember from some of singer Scott’s comments that I was at this show. 63 Monroe evolved from NFG (see above), renamed themselves First Date for a short while, went back to 63 Monroe and they still play occasionally to this day. These guys took the glam rock route, wearing tons of makeup and their grandmother’s undergarments on stage.

 

Markii and Rooster looking completely sweet, Cedar Lounge 1982?

13. The Hippies….He’s Frank….recorded live at Fryfogles1/16/84. Prior to The Cedar Lounge closing in May 1982, the bigger name bands started playing at Fryfogles (south side of Dundas St, where the Library is) due to the booking of Craig Deans and Dave Fellner who brought in many big names early on (The Stranglers, 999, John Cale, Simple Minds and more). The Hippies released one excellent single and recently reformed for the singers 50^th birthday.

 

14. The Terminals….Plastic World…from the We Killed Cassette. This band evolved from a late 70’s influenced sound to bring the newly evolving hardcore sound to London in 1981. They lasted many years and always put on a tight, energetic and fun show.

 

15. Spiral Scratch…No Familiar Faces…recorded live at The Cedar Lounge in 1981 for the wedding of a couple of well known scene members. This wedding bash brought back former Londoner Marcy Saddy with her latest combo from NYC, Certain General for the first of several visits.  Spiral Scratch evolved from The Sinners and stuck to an early 80’s UK punk sound and released one LP.

 

16. Dead Rabbits….Waiting Around…recorded live at The Cedar Lounge 2/9/82. Proof that anyone can form a band and get up on stage and get a crowd up and dancing! Some members went on to the biker rock combo, The Flying Squad.

 

17. Napalm Babys….Bullet…recorded live in Ottawa, 7/11/85. Another of the early bands to go in a hardcore direction, starting in 1981 and evolving with a different singer later on. Members of this band went on  to Bassbag, Schmagpies and many others.

 

18. Naplalm Babys…Gun Control….as above.

 

19. UIC….Telephone….recorded live at Call The Office 3/16/85. Recorded by Wayne Fisher (Napalm Babys) on video and you may see some of this show on Youtube with your DJ up front dancing like a fool! UIC were from Exeter, just north of London where they could get those fine fine Detroit stations and that became a big influence on several people from that area. UIC formed in 1982 and lasted into the early 90’s after a move to Toronto. Not really punk, metal or garage, these guys were loved by many and had a Huge following, releasing a couple of LP’s and CD’s.

 

UIC, Shillelagh? Lucan Ontario 1984

 

 

And that’s a wrap as we’ve run outta time, but certainly not tunes as we’ll continue in this direction next week. Huge Thanx to Brian Lambert for taking the time to come on air and talk about the Graphic Underground: London 1977-1990 book. Anyone with even a passing interest in this, is well advised to pick up the book as it’s sure to be sold out.

 

Thanx for all the phone-ins, emails, facebook messages and Heys!!!!

 

All pictures from What Wave Archives....please ask before posting elsewhere. No postcards please!!!

 

The archived show is at:

 

http://chrwradio.ca/content/radio-what-wave

 

YEAH , tHE bIGiTCH vOL. 1 COVERS A WIDE CROSS SECTION OF "BIRD' SONGS.

THEN , IF IT HELPS , THERE WAS : RAMONES - GO LIL' CAMARO , GO.

                                                   OAK RIDGE BOYS - ELVIRA

                                                   DEVIANTS - PAPA OO MAO MAO

                                                   MICKEY LEE LANE - SHAGGY DOG.

                                                   BOBBY AIREDALE (sic) - The Bird is The Word (Diff. song.)

YEAH ! FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW , THAT WHOLE SHOW IS ON YOU TUBE , ONE SONG AT A TIME.

DICKIE STILL HAD THOSE GREAT DRUM FLOURISHES FROM PLAYING IN THE REFORMED EDDIE AND THE SHOWMEN , BEL - AIRS , ETC.....

HIS VOICE SOUNDS SO POWERFUL . HE OPTED OUT OF THE PREVIOUS STANDELLS ' REUNION (MID - LATE 80's) BECAUSE HE OPTED TO

DO SOUL - ROCK MUSIC WITH THE DODD SQUAD. I FOUND OUT , HE HAD A WEDNESDAY NIGHT ENGAGEMENT AT THIS SHITHOLE BAR NEAR MY BROTHER'S PLACE , WHEN HE LIVED ON LAGUNA BEACH. I MET DODD ,BRIEFLY , AT THIS SHOW (above) , THE CAVESTOMP IN '99 ,  AND I TOLD HIM , I WOULD HAVE GONE TO SEE HIM AT THAT BAR , BUT THAT WEDNESDAY WHEN I WAS THERE WAS CHRISTMAS ! I THINK , DOING SOUL MUSIC , THOUGH , WAS GOOD FOR HIS "ROCK" VOICE. REAL SINGERS GET BETTER WITH AGE.   

Yeah, "Rari" has always been one of my very favorite Standells tracks. Check out some really inspired singing and drumming from Dick Dodd in this clip shot at the 1999 Cavestomp.

 

The Angry Breed ,    Somepeople may not recognize this as is the longer , superior , version of "Rari" , which was included in Sundazed's great 4 CD  reissue series.....Which , incidentally , does'nt get much feedback , since it came out almost 20 years ago , though it does'nt seem so long ago , now.  It has , collectively , tens of bonus tracks , inc. "Poor Man's Prison" , also recorded by Gene Vincent , "Misty Lane" also recorded by you - know who , and one of the best versions of "Batman" , ever , just for a start. Thanks for putting that up.

Damn.  The guy is a true legend.

 

RIP, Dick Dodd.  May your garage ever burn brightly.

 

THEE DIRTYBEATS - maximum vintage garage

http://www.theedirtybeats.com

 

 

R.I.P. Dick Dodd

I LIKE ALL FOUR UNDERTONES ALBUMS , TALK ABOUT UNPOPULAR OPINIONS ! I started with "Positive Touch" , bigger production, but , a great sound.

I got it for $2 at a College Radio record station. the others I picked up , years later , tho' i COULDA , WOULDA SHOULDA , bought teh first two for a few Dollars at the record store at the mall. "LOVE PARADE" HAS MORE GARAGE, AND , JUST TO PLAY IT SAFE , SOUL , INFLUENCES ON IT............